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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey
    Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.

    So Joe has a tuff fight & now he's overratted?

    Bullshit. I just don't buy it...& I aint even seen the fight. Thing is...Joe's beaten a shitload of fighters on his side of the lake that are worthy adversary's & he's remained undefeated in 41 fights.

    Nothing overratted about that. A couple of hard fights out of 40 or 41 does not make one overratted.


    Personally...Jones weren't no god at 168. Other than a green Hopkins, Paz, & Toney...Roy was doing his fair share of bum beating.
    Mate you know very well this isnt his first tough fight against low opposition. And by the way, ok roy didnt fight heaps of great fighters at super middleweight but who the hell has calzaghe fought. The man doesnt even want kessler and took him like 10 yrs to unify.
    If Calzaghe doesnt fight Kessler I will be dissapointed. Taylor and Winky are not fights that are gonna happen anytime soon. Jones Jr and Hopkins are pretty much semi retired, and okay, they will be able to sell a huge fight, but their best days are over...

    Fighting Kessler in March is the best option....
    Hes gonna fuck his hands for good before he fights kessler by the look of it. Hopkins and jones jr vs calzaghe doesnt appeal to me. Really theyre finished, hopkins is retired and beating roy would prove nothing now. Kessler is the superfight!
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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    all ive got to say is styles makes fights! u cant say JC would lose its a pretty complex prediction because of the difference in opposition. you would have to put them in the ring together to see .........................by the way what are you refering to as PRIME JC?

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Even Roy at 34 was far superior to Calzaghe now... Its not a complex prediction because everything Calzaghe does in the ring footwork, angles, combinations Jones did far better against better, and more varied opposition. He is the only fighter IMO that would make any hall of famer in his weight classes look silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey
    Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
    nobody is unbeatable im sick of hearing hes unbeatable blah blah hes very good fighter but not unbeatable by any means

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    RJJ did NOT fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Michalzweski or Ottke

    BUT

    Out of those listed fighters only Benn and Eubank and Eubank and Calzaghe fought each other and it must be mentioned that RJJ completely dominated a young James Toney and he beat Bernard Hopkins pretty easy too.

    RJJ and Calzaghe are hard to compare because Roy was flashy and Joe is all business



    After he went to LH I stopped being a RJJ fan...Fought to lousy comp and too many easy fights for me BUT>>>>>>>>> That doesn't take awa from how good he was...In his prime..He did dominate Toney...Hopkins tp be fair was not the same fighter he grew to be Jones had a lot more experience over all...But I can think of guys Jones could not beat in his prime...Since Super Middle was not around assuming he was at Middle IMO Hagler would beat a prime Jones...At LH a prime Michael Spinks could beat a prime Jones...Also Archie Moore or Bob Foster....Jones was great but there were better...Thats just my opp though..








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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Jones was a freak!!

    It was his FIRST title fight at Middleweight that he dominated Bernard Hopkins and one year later in his FIRST fight as a Super Middleweight he dominated the number one pound for pound at the time James Toney.

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Quote Originally Posted by wacko3205
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey
    Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.

    So Joe has a tuff fight & now he's overratted?

    Bullshit. I just don't buy it...& I aint even seen the fight. Thing is...Joe's beaten a shitload of fighters on his side of the lake that are worthy adversary's & he's remained undefeated in 41 fights.

    Nothing overratted about that. A couple of hard fights out of 40 or 41 does not make one overratted.


    Personally...Jones weren't no god at 168. Other than a green Hopkins, Paz, & Toney...Roy was doing his fair share of bum beating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hairdoo
    Jones was a freak!!

    It was his FIRST title fight at Middleweight that he dominated Bernard Hopkins and one year later in his FIRST fight as a Super Middleweight he dominated the number one pound for pound at the time James Toney. 
    i thought hopkins come on in later rounds and won 4 rounds ?? but the way he dominated toney was impressive watched that fight for first time 2 weeks ago

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    RJJ did NOT fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Michalzweski or Ottke

    BUT

    Out of those listed fighters only Benn and Eubank and Eubank and Calzaghe fought each other and it must be mentioned that RJJ completely dominated a young James Toney and he beat Bernard Hopkins pretty easy too.

    RJJ and Calzaghe are hard to compare because Roy was flashy and Joe is all business



    After he went to LH I stopped being a RJJ fan...Fought to lousy comp and too many easy fights for me BUT>>>>>>>>> That doesn't take awa from how good he was...In his prime..He did dominate Toney...Hopkins tp be fair was not the same fighter he grew to be Jones had a lot more experience over all...But I can think of guys Jones could not beat in his prime...Since Super Middle was not around assuming he was at Middle IMO Hagler would beat a prime Jones...At LH a prime Michael Spinks could beat a prime Jones...Also Archie Moore or Bob Foster....Jones was great but there were better...Thats just my opp though..








    Don't forget Billy Conn...The greatest LH of all time, bar none.

    Jones was hella fast, but Joe C isn't exactly slow. He's a step slower than Jones, but Joe is faster than most of the guys Jones fought. And to that the fact Joe is WAY more skilled. That's I fight I would have liked to have seen. I wouldn't bet the fight in either direction.

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey
    Kessler is the superfight!
    All that cryin about Kess not being all that & now he's a super fight?

    You musta watched the Mundine fight again & realized the error of your ways.
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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Snakey
    Joe is over rated and ive been saying it since his win over lacy. He doesnt compare to roy at super middleweight. Roy at super middleweight was unbeatable.
    nobody is unbeatable im sick of hearing hes unbeatable blah blah hes very good fighter but not unbeatable by any means
    Roy unless got hit with a lucky punch lets say from NIgel Benn that he didn't see and hit him as hard as Benn could he was unbeatable.

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    RJJ did NOT fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Michalzweski or Ottke

    BUT

    Out of those listed fighters only Benn and Eubank and Eubank and Calzaghe fought each other and it must be mentioned that RJJ completely dominated a young James Toney and he beat Bernard Hopkins pretty easy too.

    RJJ and Calzaghe are hard to compare because Roy was flashy and Joe is all business



    After he went to LH I stopped being a RJJ fan...Fought to lousy comp and too many easy fights for me BUT>>>>>>>>>
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    Reggie Johnson who tested everyone he ever fought except Roy

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    RJJ did NOT fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Michalzweski or Ottke

    BUT

    Out of those listed fighters only Benn and Eubank and Eubank and Calzaghe fought each other and it must be mentioned that RJJ completely dominated a young James Toney and he beat Bernard Hopkins pretty easy too.

    RJJ and Calzaghe are hard to compare because Roy was flashy and Joe is all business



    After he went to LH I stopped being a RJJ fan...Fought to lousy comp and too many easy fights for me BUT>>>>>>>>> That doesn't take awa from how good he was...In his prime..He did dominate Toney...Hopkins tp be fair was not the same fighter he grew to be Jones had a lot more experience over all...But I can think of guys Jones could not beat in his prime...Since Super Middle was not around assuming he was at Middle IMO Hagler would beat a prime Jones...At LH a prime Michael Spinks could beat a prime Jones...Also Archie Moore or Bob Foster....Jones was great but there were better...Thats just my opp though..








    Ok first of all the guys that Jones fought at LHW were very underrated only because he made them look that way... Virgill was a great fighter. Julioz Gonzalez beat that german man Darius everyone wanted Jones to fight, and Jones easily beat Gonzalez. Jones fought McCallum, Reggie Johnson, Tarver(when he was fresh and yes a good fighter), Harding(underrated would have been good in any era of LHW), David Telesco, Lou Devalle would be good in the old days. Roy Jones is too smart, too fast, and too strong for Hagler he would have been the only person I would ever say could overwhelm Hagler. Michael Spinks would take maybe a round or two for Roy to figure out, but he would and he would coast easily winning the fight on the cards. Archie MOore:worse version of James Toney and Jones would beat him up worse than he did Toney. Bob Foster:would be boxed circles around by Roy. Benn wouldn't come over to fight Roy neither would Calzaghe or any of the brittish fighters, and if you watch their styles all of them except Eubank would have been beaten down badly by Roy, and even Eubank would have lost.

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    RJJ did NOT fight Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe, Michalzweski or Ottke

    BUT

    Out of those listed fighters only Benn and Eubank and Eubank and Calzaghe fought each other and it must be mentioned that RJJ completely dominated a young James Toney and he beat Bernard Hopkins pretty easy too.

    RJJ and Calzaghe are hard to compare because Roy was flashy and Joe is all business



    After he went to LH I stopped being a RJJ fan...Fought to lousy comp and too many easy fights for me BUT>>>>>>>>> That doesn't take awa from how good he was...In his prime..He did dominate Toney...Hopkins tp be fair was not the same fighter he grew to be Jones had a lot more experience over all...But I can think of guys Jones could not beat in his prime...Since Super Middle was not around assuming he was at Middle IMO Hagler would beat a prime Jones...At LH a prime Michael Spinks could beat a prime Jones...Also Archie Moore or Bob Foster....Jones was great but there were better...Thats just my opp though..








    Ok first of all the guys that Jones fought at LHW were very underrated only because he made them look that way... Virgill was a great fighter. Julioz Gonzalez beat that german man Darius everyone wanted Jones to fight, and Jones easily beat Gonzalez. Jones fought McCallum, Reggie Johnson, Tarver(when he was fresh and yes a good fighter), Harding(underrated would have been good in any era of LHW), David Telesco, Lou Devalle would be good in the old days. Roy Jones is too smart, too fast, and too strong for Hagler he would have been the only person I would ever say could overwhelm Hagler. Michael Spinks would take maybe a round or two for Roy to figure out, but he would and he would coast easily winning the fight on the cards. Archie MOore:worse version of James Toney and Jones would beat him up worse than he did Toney. Bob Foster:would be boxed circles around by Roy. Benn wouldn't come over to fight Roy neither would Calzaghe or any of the brittish fighters, and if you watch their styles all of them except Eubank would have been beaten down badly by Roy, and even Eubank would have lost.
    which Eubank would admit, or at least be close to it.

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    Default Re: This is why nobody can be compared to prime Jones..

    Prime Jones was on another level to Calzaghe and Joe would be chasing shadows all night long. Jones was the best talent i had seen since Iron Mike and he was a PHENONOMAN.

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