Briggs VS Peters WHO and HOW??

[BoxingGorilla]

I honestly don't even know why your arguing this so much Starr I mean both fighters are black, it's not as if your honors at stake
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[Lords Gym]

Briggs.

Don't get downgradable because Briggs wasn't impressive last night.

Fact is, Briggs showed enough to dig down and beat a champion. Something Peter couldn't do against Wlad OR Toney.

Briggs wins this. He has a lot more champions heart then Peter.

Is Briggs your cousin's friend's nephew's gym teacher's neighboor?

No kidding, Starr can stop trying to sell Briggs. ! anyone that watched that fight. knows it was a horrible performance by both fighters . , just another disgraceful boring Heavyweight event. Briggs looked ridiculous last night. lost every round to a guy that was not throwing anything.. worst fight in decades ! the end was a set up, I am convinced of that. Sergei not trying to throw anything in R 12, He is thinking , come on Briggs knock me out .. we only got a few min left, and I am winning this fight ! Cool Click # 114

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Briggs.

Don't get downgradable because Briggs wasn't impressive last night.

Fact is, Briggs showed enough to dig down and beat a champion. Something Peter couldn't do against Wlad OR Toney.

Briggs wins this. He has a lot more champions heart then Peter.

Starr that is one of the stupidest thing's Ive ever heard you post. Briggs showed enough to dig down and beat a champion wheras Peter couldn't.. THat's all there is to your logic? Pathetic. And incorrect. Sam Peter dug down real deep to KO Julius Long for the NABO strap. I use this comparison because Lyakovich was about as much of a champ as Long, or at least fought like it last night.... Sergei has never been anywhere near as good as Wlad or Toney, let alone last night.. He was an absolute chump, didn't even do a damn thing. As if BRiggs had to dig down, Sergei was offering himself up on a silver platter as was Briggs, just neither of them wanted to get into a fight because they knew they didn't have the stamina to fight one full round. Peter showed much more vs Wlad and Toney than Briggs has in years. And you act as if last night was just an off night for Briggs... Actually it's the only time he's faced a meaningful opponent in ages, having lost to every other one he's ever fought. Briggs was a freaking robot for 11 rounds, he had no stamina, couldn't even hold his hands up... I don't know what you saw that would make you pick him against anyone decent.

Long couldn't live in a ring with Brewster. Don't discredit Sergei because you dont like the performance and want to discredit Brewster. Facts are Samuel had his chance against Wladimer and he couldn't win it. he had his chance against Toney and he didn't win it but they gave him a decision and he's about to get beaten one sided again by Toney in thsi rematch. And the only think Peter showed against Wlad and Toney is that he can take a punch but Toney was breaking him down pretty easily. And he had Wlad down 3 times but couldn't finish him. Something BREWSTER could do. And Sergei beat Brewster and was just stopped by Briggs no matter how it looked who was the winner and who was the loser?

I don't think that much of Samuel Peter honestly. And don't have a huge opinion on Briggs. But Briggs did what Peter hasn't.

And where do you get off saying Sergei doesn't get credit and you want to rank Wlad above him. The only champion Wlad has beaten for a belt was Chris Byrd and opted to fight a rematch with him other then Brewster. Sergei came from a year off TO BEAT Brewster whom Wlad was stopped by. Sergei was being called the second best and second most skilled of the heavyweights out there and now that he didnt look impressive and Briggs stopped him he's no better then julius long?

Oh now soon we forget

Starr, it doesn't have to do with forgetting anything.. It's pretty funny how you obviously know your boxing, and yet will still make any silly little analogy to try and prove a point and have it look like your right. Think hard about what your saying here, all you are doing is using the ABC analogy that is typical of someone who knows nothing about boxing. Your saying that because Brewster beat Wlad, and Sergei beat him, he's better then Wlad? Really. Your going to take it that far... Please. I never said Sergei was the 2nd best anything, and I have never thought Brewster was very good. WHICH HE ISNT. He has been thoroughly outboxed even in his good wins.. did you forget his fight with that Meehan bum?? How about Krasniqi, Clifford Ettiene, Oquendo. Brewster is nothing special.. And I love the way you say he could stop Wlad wheras Peter couldn't so he's better. Brewster was getting his a** handed to him so badly by Klitschko, until he completely ran out of gas.. In your mind I suppose Wlad could never beat a fighter the calibre of Brewster ... So what Samuel had his chance and he didn't win, he dropped Wlad 3 times and put up a pretty good fight vs Toney, obviously he improved considerably... And yet because he lost, and Sergei beat Brewster, that's all there is to it?!? Besides I'm talking about the Sergei I saw last night, he flat out SUCKED. It doesn't have anything to do with me wanting to discredit anyone. Briggs won by last second KO in one of the worst fights I have ever seen in it's entirety. He wasn't able to do anything for 11 ROUNDS against someone who wasn't even there to fight. Peter would come right at him and he wouldn't be able to do anything unless he drastically turned his conditioning around. I honestly don't even know why your arguing this so much Starr I mean both fighters are black, it's not as if your honors at stake

Actually no. I'm saying for you not to take credit from Sergei like he's some bum the level of Long. Sergei deserves credit for what he did and from the seems of it just because you didn't like the performance you're reducing him to bum status because Shannon beat him. THAT is what I'm telling you And if you're truly ONLY talking about the Sergei last fight why even reduce him to long status? You act like he's been like that his whole career And put up a good fight against Wlad? All Peter did was knock him down 3 times. Other then that he lost every round he didn't didn't he? And if by put up a good fight against Toney you mean stunning him in one round then have to you. But Toney broke down Peter and was dominating him down the stretch and its a travesty he got that decision. And Peter got his a** handed to him by Wladimer EVERY ROUND that he didn't knock him down in. Which is 10 rounds.

And you say Peter has considerably improved

HOW!?!?! Tell me ONE THING he has changed about his style. Because last time I checked he still gets hit by 90 percent of punches thrown at him and doesn't know the definition of a jab, his shots are still wide and he doesn't know the meaning of a straight.

Sergei is a counter puncher who beats fighters who come straight at him and is content doing enough to win a fight. He did what he had to do to beat Guinn, he did what he had top do to beat Brewster and he was doing what he had to do to beat Briggs. And even YOU have to acknowledge that.

and btw, who did you pick to win the Briggs vs. Lyakhovich fight?

Ok Starr, listen carefully. This thread has nothing to do with what Sergei has done in the past. I don't care who he beat or what he did before he fought Briggs. Even though he only beat Brewster and Guinn who aren't very good, Im sure he was much better on those nights, but it doesn't matter. your telling me to give Sergei credit... FOR WHAT THis thread is about Briggs vs Peter. Sergei may have performed decently before, but tHe fact is that on saturday night, he had absolutely nothing. I will NOT acknwoledge that he was "doing what he needed to do to beat Briggs". Maybe he was winning the fight, but doing what he needed to?? Hell no, that was the worst fight Ive ever seen all Sergei did was flick a little pussy jab out every once in a while he didn't win one round decisevly. So what does it say about Briggs who couldn't even let his hands go for 11 rounds against a statue?? It says he has shit stamina, he's way too muscley he can't even move properly, his legs were like anvils, and he was dead slow for the get go. I never said Peter is great, I was simply saying that he fought two guys who were MUCH MUCH better than Sergei was against Briggs.. Sure Peter lost every round he didn't floor Wlad in, but he dropped him 3 times... I wouldn't expect Briggs or Sergei to win a single round against Wlad or drop him, certainly if they fought the way they did on saturday they would be KOed early. Face it. Briggs is done, he sucks.

[El Kabong]

Shannon is "skeered" of power punchers which I think is the only reason he could last 12 rounds with Lyakhovich because Sergei doesn't hit hard.

Sam Peter is ugly, his style is ugly, he talks a bunch of trash, he throws punches really wide and he doesn't back down even when getting an ass whuppin

THEREFORE Sam Peter wins by 8th round TKO as a CRUMB-BA-LIEVABLE asthma attack hits the big old Shannon Briggs with a Sam Peter left hook.....after serious rabbit punches

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I honestly don't even know why your arguing this so much Starr I mean both fighters are black, it's not as if your honors at stake
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It really isn't man, Ive seen enough of his posts I think most people realize what he's all about.

[El Kabong]

........her........her posts

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Sure.

[diamonddavestafford]

I honestly don't even know why your arguing this so much Starr I mean both fighters are black, it's not as if your honors at stake
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It really isn't man, Ive seen enough of his posts I think most people realize what he's all about.

This fight would be like two big buffalos running into eachother i think. No real strategy or movement or slickness...just two big punchers whaling away until one drops. My vote is for Samuel "The Nigerian Shrek" Peter. I think he could take Briggs' shots and not the other way around. Either way the heavyweight division should be telecasted on USA these days. It is not good enough for PPV or HBO or Showtime. "Shrek" Peter by KO in 4.

[Majesty]

I honestly don't even know why your arguing this so much Starr I mean both fighters are black, it's not as if your honors at stake
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It really isn't man, Ive seen enough of his posts I think most people realize what he's all about.

Unless you've met her you don't know shit.

Keep it clean

This is a 50 50 fight.  Both fighters can be considered under achievers.

I guess it depends on which Shannon shows up and which Peter shows up.

But I say one thing, the Shannon Briggs that appeared Saturday night isn't gonna do anything in the Heavyweight division except get beat.

Admittedly, watching that fight saturday disappointed me. I thought Briggs would win but he fought like he had no strategy whatsoever. Sergei was open for the right hand all night and I was shouting at the tv for him to throw it. He finally did in the 12th round.

And imo it's Shannon's own fault that he was tired and everything because he took so long to beat Sergei. Damage was done to Sergei but given the action of the fight it shows what Shannon could and should have done from the first round on and this fight would have been over in the 3rd round.

Shannon won by knockout but that won't get him many fans. It was once again a tease of what he CAN do in the 12th but he should have done it 8 rounds sooner.

My opinion of this fight

One of the most non-entertaining fights I've seen in my life

One of the greatest endings to a fight I have seen in my life.

That about sums it up

[landmine950]

One thing i will say. Briggs did have great power and good handspeed throughout the fight. Mind you when you only throw 5 punches a round you sure wont tire out! Imagine if he had some stamina!!
he need to lose a pile of arm size and weight get down to say 235. He hits hard! Peters is consistant and busy, a Briggs win would be a miracle

[Lords Gym]

First over hand Rt and Briggs would be out cold . easy win for Peter. no contest.