Calzaghe deserves respect

[Wacko3205]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

[Violent Demise]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that shit speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

Don't give me that shit VD. I bet you were the worst Lacy fanboy going when the hype was big, Sheika, Reid, there were good fighters who Lacy dominated.

I can give you that shit as much as I want. Cuz I never been much of a Lacy fan. And you ain't going to find any old posts that say other wise. And Lacy did beat Sheika but it was by no means a domination.

[yoitsdan]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that shit speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

Don't give me that shit VD. I bet you were the worst Lacy fanboy going when the hype was big, Sheika, Reid, there were good fighters who Lacy dominated.

I can give you that shit as much as I want. Cuz I never been much of a Lacy fan. And you ain't going to find any old posts that say other wise. And Lacy did beat Sheika but it was by no means a domination.

I said this on the other thread, but I'll say it here so there's more chance you get it.

Ok, less F bombs from me, VD, seriously though, go have yourself a stiff dink, your a good guy and I like you, but there's no need for the controversy all the time.

[Violent Demise]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

That's thing right there. Lacy was still building. He barely had 20 fights. He had and still has a lot to learn. It was obvious he was in way over his head. He was considered a "champion" cuz he won a vacant title from a mediocre non-champion. Yes, Joe beat his ass. But it was more cuz of what Lacy lacked than what Calzaghe had.

[Wacko3205]

Ok, less F bombs from me, VD, seriously though, go have yourself a stiff dink, your a good guy and I like you, but there's no need for the controversy all the time.

Thanks babe.

You girls can hammer it out without hating on each other.

You done good. in another 24 for the good conduct.

[skel1983]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

That's thing right there. Lacy was still building. He barely had 20 fights. He had and still has a lot to learn. It was obvious he was in way over his head. He was considered a "champion" cuz he won a vacant title from a mediocre non-champion. Yes, Joe beat his a**. But it was more cuz of what Lacy lacked than what Calzaghe had.

It was obvious who to you?? Or the 90% who predicted Lacy would KO him Yes very obvious Lacy was in over his head

[Wacko3205]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

That's thing right there. Lacy was still building. He barely had 20 fights. He had and still has a lot to learn. It was obvious he was in way over his head. He was considered a "champion" cuz he won a vacant title from a mediocre non-champion. Yes, Joe beat his a**. But it was more cuz of what Lacy lacked than what Calzaghe had.

So then at 168 who would you have had him face?

Mundine had lost, Kess was built & viewed as hype, Beyer had lost & deemed soft, & then there was Joe.

Who would you have rather him face?

[Violent Demise]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that shit speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

Don't give me that shit VD. I bet you were the worst Lacy fanboy going when the hype was big, Sheika, Reid, there were good fighters who Lacy dominated.

I can give you that shit as much as I want. Cuz I never been much of a Lacy fan. And you ain't going to find any old posts that say other wise. And Lacy did beat Sheika but it was by no means a domination.

I said this on the other thread, but I'll say it here so there's more chance you get it.

Ok, less F bombs from me, VD, seriously though, go have yourself a stiff dink, your a good guy and I like you, but there's no need for the controversy all the time.

I got no beef with you dan. You should know that. It's just my opinion on certain subjects is strong. And I don't care who many times these groupies disapprove. I won't change it until I see fit. And there's need for me to go get a drink. I just drink straight from the bottle.

[yoitsdan]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that shit speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

Don't give me that shit VD. I bet you were the worst Lacy fanboy going when the hype was big, Sheika, Reid, there were good fighters who Lacy dominated.

I can give you that shit as much as I want. Cuz I never been much of a Lacy fan. And you ain't going to find any old posts that say other wise. And Lacy did beat Sheika but it was by no means a domination.

I said this on the other thread, but I'll say it here so there's more chance you get it.

Ok, less F bombs from me, VD, seriously though, go have yourself a stiff dink, your a good guy and I like you, but there's no need for the controversy all the time.

I got no beef with you dan. You should know that. It's just my opinion on certain subjects is strong. And I don't care who many times these groupies disapprove. I won't change it until I see fit. And there's need for me to go get a drink. I just drink straight from the bottle.

there's the VD i know and love. I know exactly what you mean by groupies as well. It was me getting hot under the collar and using swears that were unneccesary.

[WWatt]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

Calzaghe's the best super-middle of the last 10 years, by miles.

[1st rd ko]

Id just like to know if the qoute from Joe is real. Wheres the link? Thats some sh!t talking that I "thought" Joe was above. If he said this right after the fight,still pumped and all, well fine. If this was a recent qoute then im starting to dislike him. Just fight Kessler for gods sake! Whats the damn problem? Honestly, this is just getting stupid. I realize Joe is THE man in the UK, but will that last much longer if he keeps bullsh!tting us all?


Fight Kessler...

[Pugilistic]

yeah, he needs to fight kessler

[Violent Demise]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

Calzaghe's the best super-middle of the last 10 years, by miles.

Based on what? Defending the crappy ass WBO title so many times? Beating shot, past there prime ex champions? Or is it cuz he beat a young title holder who wasn't as good as he was made out to be?

[Wacko3205]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

That's thing right there. Lacy was still building. He barely had 20 fights. He had and still has a lot to learn. It was obvious he was in way over his head. He was considered a "champion" cuz he won a vacant title from a mediocre non-champion. Yes, Joe beat his a**. But it was more cuz of what Lacy lacked than what Calzaghe had.

So then at 168 who would you have had him face?

Mundine had lost, Kess was built & viewed as hype, Beyer had lost & deemed soft, & then there was Joe.

Who would you have rather him face?

Well...since no one else will answer...there was no one else out there for Jeff to face & he had done a damned fine job of beating the hell out of the majority of men that he had faced.

Lacy was good enough to make it through the Olympics & he was good enough to defeat the 19 men that he had faced some of whom were skilled fighters & veterans...Jeff thought that he was up to a challenge that he ended up falling short of.

Nothing wrong with that. I like Lacy...I like Calzaghe...but I aint writin Jeff off just yet.

I have my doubts due to the layoff...but the kid is a fighter & he's young enough to make a comeback from his loss.

To say that he was shit, unworthy, over hyped, or whatever takes away from Calzaghe's performance...& it was masterful...no matter what anyone thinks...Joe is worthy of his status.

[WWatt]

How long is he suppose to live off the Lacy win? Calzcrappy needs to stop being a coward and fight Kessler.

When was the last time you completed your life long ambition that you worked 2/3's of your life for? Get f***ed.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion here...but let's not all get so bent out of shape over it.

While I agree with you yoitsdan...it is time for Joe to take out Kessler...that should pretty much silence all other critics.

Joe did do a great thing in beating Lacy...no matter what anyone says...it's a pity that everyone else has forgotten what Lacy did to his other opponents. Props & respect to Joe...those that won't give it...well they just don't know.

Technically...there's no one else out there that needs to be beaten.

Rational boxing fans & fans of Calzaghe know that Joe is the good...all the rest of that S*** speak is nothing more than bitterness.

It's a pity that people refuse to acknowledge that Lacy's previous opponents were mediocre to poor. And in reality Lacy was severly overrated. Those that can't see that...well blame it on what ever you want. Stupidity. Intoxication. Doesn't really matter.

What people refuse to acknowledge is that Lacy was & is a hell of a fighter.

He fought some game opponents to be so early in his career & he took on the best Super Middleweight of the last 5 years...so just out of curiousity...at 168lbs...Jeff's fighting weight...who would you rather him have built his wins over?

Calzaghe's the best super-middle of the last 10 years, by miles.

Based on what? Defending the crappy a** WBO title so many times? Beating shot, past there prime ex champions? Or is it cuz he beat a young title holder who wasn't as good as he was made out to be?

Based on the fact that he fought everybody and looked better than everybody.

No sane person can say otherwise..