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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Bottom line is that Cotto is a Welterweight. Even though his prior resume has all been at 140 it was to his detriment and he never showed how excellent he really was due to the tightness at the weight.

    I'm an un-apologetic Hatton fan so take this all with a grain of salt. Rick would still have all the advantages at 140. Cotto just can't keep up his pace, is physically weaker and has a suspect chin. Conversely, Hatton leaves his most important advantages at 140 and would very likely get run over by Cotto at 147 (believe me, it's hard for me to admit that)

    After Miguel's performance last night I move him right to the top of the 147 division. He's cleaner and crisper than Margartio (who's wide attacks would have spelled his demise had not Clottey broken his hand Saturday). I see him breaking Mayweather up over time as well at this weight.

    Cotto put on 7 pounds and got quicker, more powerful, gained endurance and put it all together. No one takes him down at 147 for the next 5 years.

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by shza
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by shza
    Cotto KO 4. I'd give Ricky 7 rounds before getting KO'd if they met at 140.
    LMAO,you are either a big Cotto fan OR have a seveer disliking of Hatton/think he is over rated,I think I can guess which one it is. How do you think he would win?
    I think Hatton is severely overrated, as you infer. I do like Cotto a lot, but just objectively I can't imagine Ricky hanging with him. Yes, Ricky hung with Tszyu, but even at his prime Tszyu didn't have power like Cotto, and Tszyu was far from prime when Ricky got to him. Cotto is more of a boxer than Tszyu is too. Not to mention considerably bigger and stronger.

    For me the question is not whether Cotto could keep up with Hatton's pace, but for how long Hatton could keep up any reasonable pace while getting hit and pushed around by a much bigger and stronger man. Hatton's success depends on bullying his opponents, which he couldn't do with Cotto.

    I've always said Hatton is overratted. I defended Shza a few weeks ago when he claimed he wasn't p4p top 10. I think now the vast majority would replace Hatton with Cotto on the p4p list.

    Cotto had a flying start at 147, Hatton stalled on the start line.

    Cotto kills Hatton at 147, 140......I dont know maybe just maybe Hatton could swing with him but it's more a hope than a carefully weighed analysis.
    Haha that's right. In case I rudely missed you at the time, have a CC now. El Gamo, I'm throwing one your way as well.

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    I think most questions about hatton will be answerd when he fights Castillo. Its been to long since he beat a recognised world class fighter, hes not a WW and was right to move back down - not seen the Cotto fight yet, nyone know if it will be aird in the UK?

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Someone at the cotto's forum uplaoded the whole fight.

    http://www.miguelcotto.com/forum_cot...3f9bec6e95ce8b

    Enjoy!

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Hatton will drop cotto

    but then...maybe im probably just over rating him


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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    How does Cotto NOW have the far better resume? If he has a better resume now surely he had the better resume before last night? What has Quintano done?

    If Hatton batters Urango does he nose back into the lead? I dont understand your logic.

    Sorry,I meant Cotto had a better resume anyway,and Quintana was the exclamation mark on that. Cotto has beaten undefeated fighters,future champs,past champs,Olympians etc etc. Hatton has beaten Collazo who is good(but Quintana KTFO the guy who KTFO Collazo),Tszyu(who some say was over the hill) anD Maussa who Cotto beat and beat a more awkward version....So yeah,I'm pretty confident in saying Cotto has a better resume and Quintana is better than most on Hatton's resume anyway you look at it....


    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Wow!! I'm glad to see you guys see the light,Cotto would certainly win,but I wanted to see if anyone still disputed it..I hope Cotto calls him out,beats him and takes his spot in P4P lists! Cotto DID LOOK SENSATIONAL last night but I still want to see him in a 12 rounder,see if the stamina question is still an issue.By the looks of it,I don't think so!
    See the light? There was never no light to see. I never taught much of Hatton and always picked Cotto over him. And as for stamina issues. What stamina issues? Cotto's stamina has always been fine.
    Cotto HIMSELF has admitted to stamina issues which is why he was sayoing,he feels better at 147 and will have no more stamina issues. For example,the only rounds Malignaggi won were the rounds Cotto took off,just danced around but did not have his usual activity levels,he can't afford to do that at 147 and I don't think he will but that is what I was referring to with the issues.

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Quote Originally Posted by moonlight19
    Bottom line is that Cotto is a Welterweight. Even though his prior resume has all been at 140 it was to his detriment and he never showed how excellent he really was due to the tightness at the weight.

    I'm an un-apologetic Hatton fan so take this all with a grain of salt. Rick would still have all the advantages at 140. Cotto just can't keep up his pace, is physically weaker and has a suspect chin. Conversely, Hatton leaves his most important advantages at 140 and would very likely get run over by Cotto at 147 (believe me, it's hard for me to admit that)

    After Miguel's performance last night I move him right to the top of the 147 division. He's cleaner and crisper than Margartio (who's wide attacks would have spelled his demise had not Clottey broken his hand Saturday). I see him breaking Mayweather up over time as well at this weight.

    Cotto put on 7 pounds and got quicker, more powerful, gained endurance and put it all together. No one takes him down at 147 for the next 5 years.
    Good post mate agree 100%

    Cotto beats Hatton at 147

    Hatton beats Cotto at 140
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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    hatton would eat cotto for breakfast at light welter. too busy and cotto as mentioned is drained. at welter i dunno. judging on hatton's last fight against colazo and his only fight at welter and after seeing cotto in the weekend i would say cotto could stop him. but i don't realy like to judge the outcome on that cos i know hatton was no where near his best against collazo. if hatton had the time to grow into welter weight properly it could be different. i would prob still edge hatton cos the pace cotto set on saturday wasn't really that different than usual and he was still nickin his little breathers here and there. but cotto says he's never goin back down to 140 so if it happens it will be at welter and i cotto could do ricky there.

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    I rekon at 147 it could also depend where this fight was! we all know that hatton at 147 underatted Luiz am i the only one to think this? WE KNOW!!!!! that hatton wouldnt take this approach for a major fight with an undeafted cotto who everybody rates. Hatton would not move up straight away to 147 and this could be a weakness for him! cotto would grow into the weight more and we know that hatton did have problems at 147 and found it hard etc but problems can be fixed imo and only time would have told for hatton. imo a couple of easier fights for hatton imo would have been good!a boldomir fight would have been nice to see and we could see him again with a true 147! hatton would have to work hard for this and if he had the MEN arena behind him and stayed and matuerd at the weight...it would be a different story hatton would be focused and ready for cotto and whoever said a tko in the 3rd must be having a laugh! hatton would go out swing at least. all ive got to say is that imo hatton has done the wrong thing going to 140 and i do agree with the person who said he doesnt want the big boys. he needs to sort this quick because you dont go 41 undeafted and get tko'd in 3 rds in the biggest fight of your life...bigger than tszyu imo!

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!

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    Well,if Hatton's cam p and Hatton himself were so sure that he would grow into the weight and that the Collazo fight was an off night,I'm sure they would have stayed at 147 ESPECIALLY as there SO many big fights at 147 but they CHOSE to go back to 140,so I think that's the answer right there as to whether Hatton believes he can survive at 147.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricky_hitman
    I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!
    When does Cotto blow hot and cold? And being a big big fan of Margarito and Cotto,I can tell you now that Cotto would not HAND it to Margarito,it would be close. You did not see the best of Antonio Margarito last night and you asw the best of Cotto but do not judge how a fight between them would go after 1 night. Cotto is still open,Margarito has more power(he injured himself before last night's fight hence arm punches) and Margarito has astounding stamina.Cotto would have the body to aim at all night so it would be a close,great fight between the 2 best WW on the planet. Hopefully,together,they will KTFO EVERYONE else in the division!

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    I doubt Hatton would have beat Cotto at 140 either........at 147 Miguel would just batter Ricky.


    Hatton is best left to fight Jose Luis Castillo and Diego Corrales

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Well,if Hatton's cam p and Hatton himself were so sure that he would grow into the weight and that the Collazo fight was an off night,I'm sure they would have stayed at 147 ESPECIALLY as there SO many big fights at 147 but they CHOSE to go back to 140,so I think that's the answer right there as to whether Hatton believes he can survive at 147.

    Quote Originally Posted by ricky_hitman
    I doubt Hatton could beat Cotto at 147, it's obvious hatton doesnt belong there. Hattons best bet is to go after the likes of Castillo and Corrales. Lets not get too carried away by Cotto though i think he blows hot and cold. Someone on a another thread suggested Margarito fans will now jump ship to camp Cotto. i really hope not because Cotto will hand it to Margarito if they ever meet, and they we can all say i told you so to those Margarito bummers!!
    When does Cotto blow hot and cold? And being a big big fan of Margarito and Cotto,I can tell you now that Cotto would not HAND it to Margarito,it would be close. You did not see the best of Antonio Margarito last night and you asw the best of Cotto but do not judge how a fight between them would go after 1 night. Cotto is still open,Margarito has more power(he injured himself before last night's fight hence arm punches) and Margarito has astounding stamina.Cotto would have the body to aim at all night so it would be a close,great fight between the 2 best WW on the planet. Hopefully,together,they will KTFO EVERYONE else in the division!
    I can support what you say El gamo but at the end of the day hatton didnt lose at 147 did he? he was unprepared and risks is what you have to take in boxing so you can be the best you possibley can. Carl froch look at him big risk taker every fight and its paying off! All of you people have just lost faith in ricky

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Funny thread

    God help us if Cotto ever beats anyone decent...

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    Default Re: Hatton v Cotto@147-what do you think?

    Hatton is a better boxer p4p and would beat Cotto at 140 even before Cotto moved up. But at 147 IDK, I still think Hatton could pull it off and we do know more about Hatton than Cotto. Cotto has a weak jaw, Hatton has one of the best chances of exposing it because he can take a beating, fast, not afraid. He would keep coming, it would be a good fight.

    Hatton is by no means similar to Quintana. Cotto is by no means similar to Callazo.

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