Toney vs. Peter: How Toney Can Be Successful In The Rematch

**Klitsfan** · 12-07-2006 08:14 AM

If they base the scoring on Clean Punching/Effective Aggressiveness then Peter will win if it goes that far.Peter landed the harder shots and was taking the fight to Toney the entire fight.I see Peter, having the confidence of the first win, being even more aggresive and trying to finish Toney this time.

**landmine950** · 12-07-2006 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by Klitschkofan

If they base the scoring on Clean Punching/Effective Aggressiveness then Peter will win if it goes that far.Peter landed the harder shots and was taking the fight to Toney the entire fight.I see Peter, having the confidence of the first win, being even more aggressive and trying to finish Toney this time.

HHMM .... not wanting to disagree with a forum greatest of all time .
(and a 5 glover to boot!) BUT!!
CLEAN EFFECTIVE.....peters punches weren't clean...anything but! slipping.sliding, partially blocked, rolled with...Toney cant be hit CLEAN.period.
Toney's Punch's were the clean ones,landing square right on the side of the mellon and the jab stiff into Peter's Kisser.

The second part...the key here is the word "effective" following a guy around the ring and eating counterpunches is not (again in my most humble opinion) "effective", cutting off the ring,cornering the guy,working the body and head hard on the inside,pinning him in the corner would be effective. Peter did none of these things. The only effective punchs Peter landed were illegal shots to the back of the head.

90% of the ringside observers,knowledgable boxing people one would assume,had Toney winning the last fight. I'm with them.

The public (and probably official non-publicised) criticism of the last fights judging precipitated a rematch and will effect this fights judging.
Let's hope there's a clear winner this time! Toney to stand and back Peter up with combinations. Or Peter with a big KO!

**Klitsfan** · 12-07-2006 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by landmine950

Originally Posted by Klitschkofan

If they base the scoring on Clean Punching/Effective Aggressiveness then Peter will win if it goes that far.Peter landed the harder shots and was taking the fight to Toney the entire fight.I see Peter, having the confidence of the first win, being even more aggressive and trying to finish Toney this time.

HHMM .... not wanting to disagree with a forum greatest of all time .
(and a 5 glover to boot!) BUT!!
CLEAN EFFECTIVE.....peters punches weren't clean...anything but! slipping.sliding, partially blocked, rolled with...Toney cant be hit CLEAN.period.
Toney's Punch's were the clean ones,landing square right on the side of the mellon and the jab stiff into Peter's Kisser.

The second part...the key here is the word "effective" following a guy around the ring and eating counterpunches is not (again in my most humble opinion) "effective", cutting off the ring,cornering the guy,working the body and head hard on the inside,pinning him in the corner would be effective. Peter did none of these things. The only effective punchs Peter landed were illegal shots to the back of the head.

90% of the ringside observers,knowledgable boxing people one would assume,had Toney winning the last fight. I'm with them.

The public (and probably official non-publicised) criticism of the last fights judging precipitated a rematch and will effect this fights judging.
Let's hope there's a clear winner this time! Toney to stand and back Peter up with combinations. Or Peter with a big KO!

I know everyone has there own opinion on this fight.When Peter fought Wladimir Klitschko and Peter landed the punches on the back of his head people said it was because Wladimir was turning his head.The punches Peter hurt Tony with were not punches behind the head, he did land some behind the head and the ref warned him and also Toney for turning his head.In my view Peter landed the much more effective punches because they hurt Toney and had him hanging onto the ropes even.I don't care to see a heavyweight jab his way to victory while back pedalling the entire fight but maybe thats just me.

**The Shadow** · 12-07-2006 11:43 PM

Toney is going to put a serious hurt on Peter this time. Now that Billy Blanks is in on the team, Toney will be unstoppable. He will rule the division for a decade!

**Klitsfan** · 12-08-2006 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Shadow

Toney is going to put a serious hurt on Peter this time. Now that Billy Blanks is in on the team, Toney will be unstoppable. He will rule the division for a decade!