Welsh dragon

[X]

.... and I don't care how many anonymous sadclicks I get from all the non-cowards out there.

[7777]

Joe has the ability

He needs to use it

I don't think he is scared to use it but he is definitely padding his record to try and break Joe Louis's defence record.

[Violent Demise]

You can usually tell the armchair fans from the real boxing people out there.

Anyone who trains for months before a fight, puts their body and soul on the line at training camp, performs in front of millions, risks humiliation and permanent damage, accepts that they are going to get hit, hurt, tired and scarred .......... these fighters may be many things, but cowardly is not one of them

There are many fighters I dislike, some that I don't think are very good (and some who I don't like just because of their poster fans on this site (!), but I would not think of them as cowards.

The day that I would personally feel no fear stepping into a ring with an unbeaten, hyped, musclebound undefeated world champion and top-class amateur like Jeff Lacy is the day I am qualified to call Joe Calzaghe a coward.

Shame on you all. This is not what fans do. By demeaning our fighters, we demean our own sport.

No shame on you. It's posters like you who always go back to same excuse when you run out of excuses to defend your fighters cowardliness. Every fighter gets credit for stepping in the ring. That goes without saying. Once there in the ring there suppose to face the best and try to make the most money possible for themselves. Kessler is consider the biggest rival in Calzaghe's division. 3.4 million would be the most Calzaghe's ever made. He doesn't want the fight. Why? Cuz Kessler is not shot like most of the known names on Calzaghe's record? Is it cuz he's not some obscure scrub like a lot of the names on Joe's record? Or is it cuz he's scared? I say he's scared. And yes I did sc your ass.

[DaxxKahn]

Hey DaxxKahn he is the best boxer ever to come from WALES

Did you just sad click me BTW?

No Kel I did not sad click you...I would tell you if I did....I never sad click someone because of their opinion I only sad click if someone is acting like an ass....Here is a CC to help even out the one you got though

[Counter]

TO X I AGREE,boxing is a hard game my son has boxed as amateur it take,s some ball,s to get in that ring so. My hat goe,s off to anyone that doe,s good luck to them ALL

[X]

You can usually tell the armchair fans from the real boxing people out there.

Anyone who trains for months before a fight, puts their body and soul on the line at training camp, performs in front of millions, risks humiliation and permanent damage, accepts that they are going to get hit, hurt, tired and scarred .......... these fighters may be many things, but cowardly is not one of them

There are many fighters I dislike, some that I don't think are very good (and some who I don't like just because of their poster fans on this site (!), but I would not think of them as cowards.

The day that I would personally feel no fear stepping into a ring with an unbeaten, hyped, musclebound undefeated world champion and top-class amateur like Jeff Lacy is the day I am qualified to call Joe Calzaghe a coward.

Shame on you all. This is not what fans do. By demeaning our fighters, we demean our own sport.

No shame on you. It's posters like you who always go back to same excuse when you run out of excuses to defend your fighters cowardliness. Every fighter gets credit for stepping in the ring. That goes without saying. Once there in the ring there suppose to face the best and try to make the most money possible for themselves. Kessler is consider the biggest rival in Calzaghe's division. 3.4 million would be the most Calzaghe's ever made. He doesn't want the fight. Why? Cuz Kessler is not shot like most of the known names on Calzaghe's record? Is it cuz he's not some obscure scrub like a lot of the names on Joe's record? Or is it cuz he's scared? I say he's scared. And yes I did sc your a**.

No way VD - you're usually quite funny, but you've got this one wrong. I do not go back to any excuse to defend anyone - you will not find me anywhere claiming Calzaghe is the best thing since Roy Jones. I just disagree with people talking tough and calling any fighter a coward. I will criticise a fighter's style, record and everything, but I wouldn't presume to call him a coward.

That's not very tough talk really, to sit on a computer somewhere, posting anonymously on a website, calling any internationally recognised combat sportsman a coward?

Boxing history is full of dream matchups that never happened, that does not make people cowards.

Perhaps you find it cathartic to spout stuff on here, like you seem to have been doing recently. What happened to the VD who was funny and knowledgeable?

You naughty man

And, no, I didn't sc you because I am clearly a saint.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

You can usually tell the armchair fans from the real boxing people out there.

Anyone who trains for months before a fight, puts their body and soul on the line at training camp, performs in front of millions, risks humiliation and permanent damage, accepts that they are going to get hit, hurt, tired and scarred .......... these fighters may be many things, but cowardly is not one of them

There are many fighters I dislike, some that I don't think are very good (and some who I don't like just because of their poster fans on this site (!), but I would not think of them as cowards.

The day that I would personally feel no fear stepping into a ring with an unbeaten, hyped, musclebound undefeated world champion and top-class amateur like Jeff Lacy is the day I am qualified to call Joe Calzaghe a coward.

Shame on you all. This is not what fans do. By demeaning our fighters, we demean our own sport.

No shame on you. It's posters like you who always go back to same excuse when you run out of excuses to defend your fighters cowardliness. Every fighter gets credit for stepping in the ring. That goes without saying. Once there in the ring there suppose to face the best and try to make the most money possible for themselves. Kessler is consider the biggest rival in Calzaghe's division. 3.4 million would be the most Calzaghe's ever made. He doesn't want the fight. Why? Cuz Kessler is not shot like most of the known names on Calzaghe's record? Is it cuz he's not some obscure scrub like a lot of the names on Joe's record? Or is it cuz he's scared? I say he's scared. And yes I did sc your a**.

No way VD - you're usually quite funny, but you've got this one wrong. I do not go back to any excuse to defend anyone - you will not find me anywhere claiming Calzaghe is the best thing since Roy Jones. I just disagree with people talking tough and calling any fighter a coward. I will criticise a fighter's style, record and everything, but I wouldn't presume to call him a coward.

That's not very tough talk really, to sit on a computer somewhere, posting anonymously on a website, calling any internationally recognised combat sportsman a coward?

Boxing history is full of dream matchups that never happened, that does not make people cowards.

Perhaps you find it cathartic to spout stuff on here, like you seem to have been doing recently. What happened to the VD who was funny and knowledgeable?

You naughty man

And, no, I didn't sc you because I am clearly a saint.

My my, what a lovely colourfull discussion we have going on here tonight!

Calzaghe (to my knowledge) is the greatest Welsh export next to the great man himself...
Mr.Tom Jones






(who is firmly number one one reason and one reason only.........)

















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.... Anyway, with that cleared up, im glad X made his comments.

I personally, have a very hard time liking Calzaghe, however i could never call him a coward.

Calzaghe obviously wants to close his career in the U.S on HBO in front of millions of viewers. I am one who would love to debate this move, but as ive just said... I would never call him a coward.

Thats just outright ignorance.

[diamonddavestafford]

You can usually tell the armchair fans from the real boxing people out there.

Anyone who trains for months before a fight, puts their body and soul on the line at training camp, performs in front of millions, risks humiliation and permanent damage, accepts that they are going to get hit, hurt, tired and scarred .......... these fighters may be many things, but cowardly is not one of them

There are many fighters I dislike, some that I don't think are very good (and some who I don't like just because of their poster fans on this site (!), but I would not think of them as cowards.

The day that I would personally feel no fear stepping into a ring with an unbeaten, hyped, musclebound undefeated world champion and top-class amateur like Jeff Lacy is the day I am qualified to call Joe Calzaghe a coward.

Shame on you all. This is not what fans do. By demeaning our fighters, we demean our own sport.

i agree. J.Calzaghe whips ass. He will beat down Manfredo and then hopefully fight a megafight with Taylor, Hopkins or Kessel.

[Preme]

No shame on you. It's posters like you who always go back to same excuse when you run out of excuses to defend your fighters cowardliness. Every fighter gets credit for stepping in the ring. That goes without saying. Once there in the ring there suppose to face the best and try to make the most money possible for themselves. Kessler is consider the biggest rival in Calzaghe's division. 3.4 million would be the most Calzaghe's ever made. He doesn't want the fight. Why? Cuz Kessler is not shot like most of the known names on Calzaghe's record? Is it cuz he's not some obscure scrub like a lot of the names on Joe's record? Or is it cuz he's scared? I say he's scared. And yes I did sc your a**.

I normally skip through your posts 'coz you haven proven your self to be the biggest hypocrite and racist on this board, but this one is to funny.

You clearly have a problem with British fighters for some unknown reason. when it was posted how hopkins priced him self out of a career high pay day with Calzaghe IN THE US u defended hopkins, claimed that it wasn't enough even tho it was more than he ever made! When Roy Jones reportedly turned down over $5mill to fight him, again you claimed it wasn't enough, that Roy Jones was totally in the right and Warren/Calzaghe didn't wanna really fight RJJ... If you were of the same opinion to the Americans who have chosen to 'pass' on better fighers, id still think your An a sshole for your comments made, but you'd have respect 'coz you would ad least be str8 as a die and not the hypocrite u clearly are now.

Its to funny, i can totally understand people getting pissed about him not taking kessler, but to go all out claiming his scare dof him, that calzaghe is a Coward 'coz he has chosen for the first time in his career to fight someone who is considered a much lesser fighter BUT a bigger name in the US.

Calzaghe could fight and beat Kessler, Hopkins then Taylor and you would find an excuse for everyone, thats why the Manfredo fight is aimed at the 'general' Americans, 'coz idiots like you would only ever pa to watch him fight if you were certain he was about to lose.

[Counter]

SPOT ON :P :P :P

[killersheep]

I still say Jimmie Wilde was a better Welsh fighter than Calzaghe.

Jimmie was 44-0-2, 2 years into his career.

[Counter]

COLIN JONES

[Preme]

I still say Jimmie Wilde was a better Welsh fighter than Calzaghe.

Why ? not dissagreeing just curious as to why?

[Counter]

NEVER SEEN HIM FIGHT

[killersheep]

I still say Jimmie Wilde was a better Welsh fighter than Calzaghe.

Why ? not dissagreeing just curious as to why?

Because he was a monster in his division JCC style 133-4-2 (99 KOs)

He had more ring time than Joe 2 years into his career and was undefeated in that time. He fought everyone he could even if the fights were only days apart. He went 91 fights before taking in his first loss.

1911-12-30 Young Jennings 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 12 12
1911-12-20 Ted Roberts 0-2-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-12-12 Young Towell 0-1-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-11-20 Young Rice 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-11-11 Young Towell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-10-30 Young Sam Langford 2-2-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 0
1911-10-20 Young Powell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-10-10 Joe Rogers 1-2-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 5 0
1911-09-20 Ted Powell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-09-09 Young Avent 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-08-26 Dick Jenkins 0-2-0
Millfield A,C,, Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 11 0
1911-08-15 Jim Easton 0-0-0
Edinburgh, Midlothian, Scotland W PTS 10 10
1911-08-08 Fred Chappell 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-07-07 Steve Thomas 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-06-20 Kid Morris 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-06-03 Billy Brown 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 4 0
1911-05-25 Ted Roberts 0-1-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 0
1911-05-15 Archie Grant 0-1-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-05-05 Dai Roberts 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-04-20 Billy Papke 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-04-10 Eddie Thomas 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 0
1911-04-04 Archie Grant 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-03-20 Dai Thomas 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 0
1911-03-09 Dick Jenkins 0-1-0
Cardiff, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-02-18 George Lake 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales D PTS 6 6
1911-02-02 Kid Pearson 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 2 6
1911-01-20 Dai Jones 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales D PTS 6 6
1911-01-10 Dick Jenkins 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W PTS 6 6
1911-01-01 Ted Roberts 0-0-0
Pontypridd, Glamorgan, Wales W KO 3 6


Look at what this maniac did in one year!!

His first full year as a pro.

This is something that makes me mad about fighters nowadays.
They hardly ever fight. 2-3 times a year tops for title holders.