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Ive got a couple of grandparents who were caught stealing,that's why i live in Australia![]()
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you from the us or the UK?Originally Posted by The_One77
Originally Posted by Smashup
hahaha nice one mate
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ukOriginally Posted by Preme
Originally Posted by Snakey
5 wickets ain't bad going
If we win this game/testhahahaha I'll start trying to get into it
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TheOne_77 - I run HR for quite a big UK company, here's my take on it (for what it's worth)
- The company has a problem with tills being down quite often. That means that someone else is probably stealing as common errors tend to cancel themselves out.
- you knew you should not have gone to the till and paid for your own food, so you seem to be definitely guilty of something. I bet the CCTV just shows you rummaging around in the till and isn't clear enough picture to see if you were putting stuff in or taking it out?
- Does the CCTV show you carrying the food you bought, or just standing rummaging in the till?
- contrary to popular belief, the company does not have to prove you're guilty or do anything 'beyond reasonable doubt'. UK employment law works on the 'reasonable balance of probability' so they just have to decide whether they believe you or not, and they can do what they like. If you have less than a year's continuous service you do not have any legal right to claim unfair dismissal or anything. If you have more than a year's service, they have to follow certain procedures if they want to sack you.
- The police, however, have to prove things beyond reasonable dounbt and unless they actually see you on CCTV taking money, they will not be interested in a prosecution.
To be honest mate, I think they may sack you just to send out a message to everyone else about nicking. We're all expendable as people so i wouldn't count on natural justice rearing its head!!!
When you have your meeting, see how you think it's going to pan out .... sorry to say, but if it looks like they are going to sack you, you may as well resign because they cannot say anything about the alleged nicking in a reference then!
I know it's hard, this sounds like one of your first jobs and then all this happens (assuming that you are innocent). I got sacked when I was 17 and it bothered me for ages. It's easy for me to say, but try not to let it get you down, mate. You are not losing a career or anything and and can get another job after.
I'm sorry if it seems all bad, but it's often better to think the worst so that anything good is then a bonus!!
BUT - if you have more than a year's service and you want some unofficial legal advice, pm me.
If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?
Are you a toilet cleaner at Goldman Sachs?Originally Posted by Smashup
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If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?
thxs x
I couldnt give a dogs bullocks if i got the sack, the simple solution is just not mention it in my next job reference....
Unless they've got you bang to rights on CCTV clearly nicking from the till, the police will not be interested.
If God wanted us to be vegetarians, why are animals made of meat ?
ull be fine, i was a duty manager for the co-op for a few yrs - yeah what u did was wrong, but they can't and wont sack you for it, a written warning is the most they can do. Unless they see u taking the money from the CCTV they cant and wont sack you.Originally Posted by The_One77
They will have to pay you your loss of earrnings to untill the let you work n the store again, so think of this as a free holl
When they show you a tape of you stealing money then I'd panic. You broke a rule and that's all that tape shows you doing, right?
Denial is a powerful weapon. Don't admit to anything. Don't offer any information. Only confirm that you paid for your own snack.
Don't point the finger at anyone else or bring up names. Just say "I paid for my own snack."
but if it looks like they are going to sack you, you may as well resign because they cannot say anything about the alleged nicking in a reference then X
Agreed. I'd find a new job regardless of what happens. If they let you keep your job they will force you to quite with unfair treatment. Bullshit hours. Assign you the worst job in the place every day you work.
Move on.
no, there is no evidence because there was no crime..Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
i dont believe it, duty manager of the Co-op...where u from friend?Originally Posted by Preme
Thank you for the advice, it really takes a weight of my shoulders...
But yes i will be resigninging from the Co-op once this is over, because when i return to work again it probably wont be the same. They'll probably look at me as if i'm distrustful and the first thing i was from a job is too be respected.
Part of me personally would want to prove the point and make them drag out every fucking CCTV tape, cross reference shifts and go over the tills just to kind of show that I'd nothing to hide.
Ultimately you've gone against company policy by buying the drink but your certainly not guilty of helping yourself to £70 from the till. They can't prove it cos it didn't happen but your quite right, that element of doubt will still be there.
As far as references go...you'd be surprised at just how sloppy at lot of companies are. At your age just bang on a couple of personal references if asked. If you really must declare that you've worked at this shop (to prove you have relevant experience for example) they can only put in your reference statements of fact. Most companies only put dates of employment on these days cos they're afraid of getting sued.
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