Haye sets Maccarinelli deadline

[ross]

Ask Thompson how hard Haye is to tag

[Wacko3205]

David Haye has turned up the heat on WBO cruiserweight champion Enzo Maccarinelli by saying they must meet in April or not at all.

full article here http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/boxing/6214355.stm

Is everyone really that impressed with Haye...or is it just a Brit, thang?

Just curious. I aint saying on way or the other...basically because I just haven't been following him...so really...I am just curious.

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Im British and I think as soon as he steps up again hes in trouble again

If Fragomani was a puncher which he isnt then Haye wouldnt have gotten outta the fight

Enzo can bang, like Haye but he mixes his shots up better is more active and has better stamina, as far as ive seen their chins are both just as brittle.


Id see haye who has battled back from adversity as having the better stamina and outlasting Haye but I could also see a ko for either but if I had to put money id go for enzo by late stoppage

[Memphis]

What Brit thang?

He's got the ingredients theres no question. Question marks remain over his conditioning though. His training methods (in the past apparently) havent been what you'd call the beaten path. Possibly more concerned with looking the part rather than being the part.

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By the way Haye is a member on maxboxing forums and I asked him why he doesnt fight Enzo, he said all the usual promoter or manager bollocks but he also admitted that they both are chinny

Fair play I thought, he came across as a bit of a bragart but also pretty genuine but still as a fighter I really dont see him getting much further

[Memphis]

Of the two I'd back Haye to win a proper world title. He has the extra bit of class that Enzo simply doesnt have. If he boxed and allowed the KO to come in its own time like he has been promising to do now for the last three or four fights then he would stand a much better chance.

[Wacko3205]

What Brit thang?

He's British & alot of Britonians that I converse with are really really sold on him...while most Yanks are not or they either don't know him...hence the Brit thang.

He's got the ingredients theres no question. Question marks remain over his conditioning though. His training methods (in the past apparently) havent been what you'd call the beaten path. Possibly more concerned with looking the part rather than being the part.

How do you think he'd fair against...saaaaaaaaay...ummmm...Mormeck, Bell, or Braithwaite? Seeing as those are the only Cruisers that I've ever really gotten into.

[Memphis]

Haye will ony get the chance to fight one of them (Bell), at cruiserweight at least. He has the tools to beat Bell no doubt about that in my mind.

Haye wants the big fights, wants the big occassion. I dont think he is too fond of the nasty hard work that comes before all of that though.

[Wacko3205]

He's got the skill and power to beat them no wuestion in my mind. The smart money would be on those guys stopping him later in the fight

So it's stamina or no drive?

Would you say he's on the same path as Audley Harrison? Not that bad?

[Memphis]

Well the two are kinda hand in hand arent they. I dont think he has the drive, therefor his stamina suffers.

I suppose Audley and Haye are alike in some ways. Both got good skills but both (Audley definatley) flawed in one respect or another. Haye isnt affraid to let it all hang out though, if he goes out(and Im sure he will before his career is up) it will be with a bang.

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Thing is with Haye though the only real puncher hes faced he got stopped by

[Wacko3205]

Well the two are kinda hand in hand arent they. I dont think he has the drive, therefor his stamina suffers.

Not the way I was meaning it.

What I meant was did he have stamina issues or head issues.

By that I mean...does he gas out or does he mentally shut down if he can't get his way.

But you answered me question.

I suppose Audley and Haye are alike in some ways. Both got good skills but both (Audley definatley) flawed in one respect or another. Haye isnt affraid to let it all hang out though, if he goes out(and Im sure he will before his career is up) it will be with a bang.

It amazes me how Audley squanders his abilities. I just get so disgusted with him when I watch him box. He's got such a vast amount of skill & he's got the tools...but to me...he defines what I was asking you above...when he can't get it to go just his way...he mentally fwocks himself.

Sounds like Haye is something I should stay on the same path with.

[Wacko3205]

Thing is with Haye though the only real puncher hes faced he got stopped by

Shows how much I know about him...I didn't even know that he'd been stopped.

[Memphis]

Thing is with Haye though the only real puncher hes faced he got stopped by

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[Memphis]

What I meant was did he have stamina issues or head issues.

By that I mean...does he gas out or does he mentally shut down if he can't get his way.

Nah thats spot on Wacks.

Despite telling us for three or four fights now that he is more relaxed and going to let the KO come in its own time, he still feels that he has the god given right to whack out anyone in his way in the first couple of frames.

When they dont go over he short circuits for a while and then has to regroup from a situation where there was no real danger.

The good news is that unlike the Thompson fight he seems to be getting better at working through the cloud. Still shouldnt be happening though.