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    Default Re: Beckham in £128 million pound Football move to LA

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Beckham will not be far and away the best player in the MLS, he's aging and he needs a supporting cast and excuse me if I don't believe he'll have one....now Clint Dempsey joined Fullham FC, he's a good ball player and on the rise.

    If the MLS wanted to bring soccer to the US they would go out and get the Ronaldihno's and Wayne Rooney's and all those top teir players.

    That will be hard to do as European and South American and even Latin American teams have histories of being great and they have HUGE fan bases.

    This will be a little BLIP on the screen for American soccer....we need an American that is good enough to put on a show...Freddy Adu was a player we were supposed to watch grow up and conquer the world...and he didn't even get added to our World Cup roster....and it's S*** like that that screws us up.

    Lebron James didn't get left off the Olympic B-ball team because he was supposed to be the next big thing....he was given a chance to suceed and low and behold there he is King of the NBA
    When their at the end of their careers Lyle. Right now they have their palces in the national squad to thinl of. You think Beckham would go to MLS if he was still getting called up for England National squad?
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    Well look at it right now...the MLS is where old players go to end their careers and where US youngsters get good enough to go to Europe.

    So therefore we have old farts and young guys looking to move to Europe....how is that helping the MLS in the long run

    I understand your point Jim and I am agreeing with you, but you have to admit that it's not really going to help MLS or soccer in the US.

    The way to help soccer in the US is to cultivate talent and then ship them to Europe and SHOW THE GAMES ON TV especially the ones that showcase our talent. For the MLS to be big you need a figurehead and that was dropped in their laps when a kid named FREDDY ADU signed on with DC at age 14!!!! Now he's in the no man's land of SALT LAKE CITY....he needs to be the face of the league (along with Becks) and needs to be a New York Red Bull (to make a rivalry with LA)!

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    I think that Beckhams arrival will help because it's gonna raise the profile of "Soccer" in the US thus kids will idolise him and wanna start playing.
    Only a matter of years until FOOTBALL is your biggest national sport.
    Your no different to any other country at the end of the day so imo it is inevitable

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    ...Football is our biggest national sport....which is why SOCCER is having such a hard time gaining ground

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    ...Football is our biggest national sport....which is why SOCCER is having such a hard time gaining ground
    Your game really is not "football". The foot touch element is really very minimal. It should be called "handball".

    We invented the game, thus we give it the name..you people who change a decent language for no decent reason!!!!

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    Default Re: Beckham in £128 million pound Football move to LA

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Well look at it right now...the MLS is where old players go to end their careers and where US youngsters get good enough to go to Europe.

    So therefore we have old farts and young guys looking to move to Europe....how is that helping the MLS in the long run

    I understand your point Jim and I am agreeing with you, but you have to admit that it's not really going to help MLS or soccer in the US.

    The way to help soccer in the US is to cultivate talent and then ship them to Europe and SHOW THE GAMES ON TV especially the ones that showcase our talent. For the MLS to be big you need a figurehead and that was dropped in their laps when a kid named FREDDY ADU signed on with DC at age 14!!!! Now he's in the no man's land of SALT LAKE CITY....he needs to be the face of the league (along with Becks) and needs to be a New York Red Bull (to make a rivalry with LA)!
    Good points, Soccer is a huge industry though... Various tactics need to be used.
    TV needs to have a reason to screen matches,

    (WAFFLE)*Lets not forget that football is in a market of other sports. I believe that I am right in saying most nations that exhibit a national soccer team, has soccer as its No.1 Sport. So we can see Americas problem. (Samson’s post earlier was a key example of the disinterest in Soccer in the U.S)*

    Hence marketing is a must.

    So since 'Brand Beckham' is, at the moment, the biggest and best selling soccer brand in the whole of the U.S, id figure it would be wise for TV Networks to invest some extra air-play in Brand Beckham and his affiliates.

    This in turn, will be the proverbial Foot in the door in regards to exposure, revenue and growth. The market swells and gains power and so on and so on.

    The MLS from grass-roots to top-level is healthy. Mick gets his Real Madrid shirts cheaper. The Stars & Stripes will have a better National team than The Three Lions, and we'll all have David Beckham to blame.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    ...Football is our biggest national sport....which is why SOCCER is having such a hard time gaining ground
























    And i quote what saddo calls American football
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    Oh if those NFL players did ANYTHING else they'd fucking dominate.....might I refer you to one Julius Peppers 6'8 285 pounds runs a 4.3-4.5 40 yard dash and can dunk a basketball....he's just bad as all hell and if he played soccer or rugby or rowed a fucking boat down the Thames he'd be the best at it!!!!

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    Lyle how big is soccer in the States
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    Soccer would be a lot better if it was hockey.

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    Default Re: Beckham in £128 million pound Football move to LA

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Oh if those NFL players did ANYTHING else they'd F****** dominate.....might I refer you to one Julius Peppers 6'8 285 pounds runs a 4.3-4.5 40 yard dash and can dunk a basketball....he's just bad as all hell and if he played soccer or rugby or rowed a F****** boat down the Thames he'd be the best at it!!!!
    Now now. Lyle - it's not like to to make a statement based on one-eyed national patriotism

    This seems to be a common misconception in the States, that size is everything. Playing football - soccer - actually requires some skill and stamina,and being as big as this guy does not mean he can kick a ball properyl or be agile enough to actually turn a corner.

    I have a Corvette, and it is big and powerful in a straight line, but it does not like going around corners. Very American (!)

    I am the first to admit I know very little about American Football, but it looks like anaerobic stamina is not needed as there are so many breaks in the game. Plus it is power and bulk that help at the 'Downs' rather than lots if skill


    Also, and I'll try and break this gently, most international sports (as opposed to American football, baseball and basketball) actually have rules against taking performance enhancing drugs and bulkup steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Smashup
    I think that Beckhams arrival will help because it's gonna raise the profile of "Soccer" in the US thus kids will idolise him and wanna start playing.
    Only a matter of years until FOOTBALL is your biggest national sport.
    Your no different to any other country at the end of the day so imo it is inevitable
    Sorry, but you don't seem to know the full story. Soccer is very big here in America upon youths, as many kids play soccer all throughout highschool. The problem is we as Americans can't stand WATCHING it, hence, no league can ever succeed here. Just as baseball and football will never be anything over there, soccer will never be anything over here.

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    Now now. Lyle - it's not like to to make a statement based on one-eyed national patriotism

    This seems to be a common misconception in the States, that size is everything. Playing football - soccer - actually requires some skill and stamina,and being as big as this guy does not mean he can kick a ball properyl or be agile enough to actually turn a corner.

    I have a Corvette, and it is big and powerful in a straight line, but it does not like going around corners. Very American (!)

    I am the first to admit I know very little about American Football, but it looks like anaerobic stamina is not needed as there are so many breaks in the game. Plus it is power and bulk that help at the 'Downs' rather than lots if skill


    Also, and I'll try and break this gently, most international sports (as opposed to American football, baseball and basketball) actually have rules against taking performance enhancing drugs and bulkup steroids.
    Oh you want corners turned do you....hmmmmm do I know anyone who could turn corners

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle
    Quote Originally Posted by X
    Now now. Lyle - it's not like to to make a statement based on one-eyed national patriotism

    This seems to be a common misconception in the States, that size is everything. Playing football - soccer - actually requires some skill and stamina,and being as big as this guy does not mean he can kick a ball properyl or be agile enough to actually turn a corner.

    I have a Corvette, and it is big and powerful in a straight line, but it does not like going around corners. Very American (!)

    I am the first to admit I know very little about American Football, but it looks like anaerobic stamina is not needed as there are so many breaks in the game. Plus it is power and bulk that help at the 'Downs' rather than lots if skill


    Also, and I'll try and break this gently, most international sports (as opposed to American football, baseball and basketball) actually have rules against taking performance enhancing drugs and bulkup steroids.
    Oh you want corners turned do you....hmmmmm do I know anyone who could turn corners

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    That's right Mick .....I also can't stand the double standard just because NFL players are big then they ALL do roids....that's simply not true.

    Cycling is an international sport and like 90% of those guys use drugs but ONLY THE AMERICANS GET SHIT FOR IT....no one talks about the other guys who dope...why is that? They don't win!

    Landis got caught.....but Lance Armstrong never failed a test so let's excuse him from this little chat people just didn't like him because he won all the time.

    Soccer would be bigger if we didn't have other sports that draw in more money....I would personally rather watch MLS or especially the Premier League instead of NBA....I can't take that bullshit anymore




    just an FYI the NFL and MLB have steroid and amphetimine testing now they need HGH testing but with all of the player unions it's going to be difficult to pass....don't act like your athletes don't use drugs that problem is not just an American one it's worldwide

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