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    Default Re: In terms of Hatton's future.....

    Hatton will NOT fight at 154lb. Not a chance in hell!

    He is comfortable at 140lb and can make the weight. He has never failed to do so so why all these people question his weight is beyond me!

    You will see on saturday night how good hatton can really be. You will see a hatton that can box as well as brawl and hold

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    Default Re: In terms of Hatton's future.....

    In the style Hatton fights and the way his weight goes out of control I think he has about 2 or 3 good years left in him.

    Pressure fighters like Hatton tend to only have a short prime and this is his prime right now.


    So with that in mind all of Hattons fights from now on should be superfights coz the clock is tiking away and so is Hattons prime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yoitsdan
    Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
    Ummm, Floyd is going to have the name Oscar De La Hoya on his resume in a few months, which is a better name than an old, inactive Kostya Tszyu. Diego Corrales was also top 6 or 7 PFP when he fought Floyd in '01.

    If Hatton is willing to get in the ring with Mayweather at 147, I'll be very impressed with his courage, because Floyd would work him over from the opening bell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SweetPea
    Quote Originally Posted by yoitsdan
    Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
    Ummm, Floyd is going to have the name Oscar De La Hoya on his resume in a few months, which is a better name than an old, inactive Kostya Tszyu. Diego Corrales was also top 6 or 7 PFP when he fought Floyd in '01.

    If Hatton is willing to get in the ring with Mayweather at 147, I'll be very impressed with his courage, because Floyd would work him over from the opening bell.
    Floyd may well have the name of Oscar De La Hoya on his resume in a few months, but he will also have a L on his record after the fight

    Im with you here Tam, i believe Ricky will have a couple more fights at 140, then move on towards the end of the year to 147 for the superfights ie Mayweather, Cotto etc.
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    Default Re: In terms of Hatton's future.....

    First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.

    Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.

    Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.


    As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.

    A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.

    Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.

    Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.

    As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.

    Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.

    I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.

    Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.

    He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do

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    Default Re: In terms of Hatton's future.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.

    Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.

    Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.


    As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.

    A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.

    Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.

    Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.

    As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.

    Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.

    I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.

    Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.

    He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do
    I agree with every word of this post.

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    Default Re: In terms of Hatton's future.....

    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.

    Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.

    Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.


    As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.

    A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.

    Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.

    Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.

    As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.

    Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.

    I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.

    Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.

    He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do


    Ricky was tentatively offered the Oscar fight whilst Floyd was twiddling on his thumb deciding so thats not 100% true now is it?!

    And if Floyd loses to Oscar, the next big fight out there for him alongside Cotto is Hatton. So to say it will never ever happen is wide of the mark

    Hatton would get rid of Cintron in the same way Miguel did. Once he was hit to the body he didn't want to know

    And if moving up a weight and winning the World title isn't successful I don't know what is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7777
    And if moving up a weight and winning the World title isn't successful I don't know what is?
    This line is a little exaggerated, don't you think?
    Hatton won, but it was very close and he didn't look that good.
    Also, Collazo is a nice fighter and he did technically own a WBA belt, but let's be honest, he was as much of a welterweight champ as Mariano Carrera is a middleweight champ. Random alphabet belts mean absolutely nothing. Pacquiao doesn't even have a belt at 130 right now, that should be all the evidence anyone needs to know belts mean hardly anything anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.

    Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.

    Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.


    As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.

    A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.

    Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.

    Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.

    As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.

    Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.

    I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.

    Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.

    He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do
    When you think about it why wasnt it succesful? he still won the fight and became a 2 weight world champ. He might not have been as succesful as the other champs but he still won the fight and got the belt. If a fighter is moving up in weight they should have 3 months prep at least! never mind 6 weeks! or whatever is was! I still feel Luiz was a difficult fighter for Ricky and Ricky paid the price for that. But what was the harm in staying at 147 seeing himself have a couple more fights and fighting the tougher men? I would prefer to see Ricky Hatton fight Cotto and lose, than to watch Ricky hatton-Urango imo! it will be a better fight draw more money etc! i aint really looking forward to this fight on sat cos i know he is going to win. But if Hatton fought a big name at 147 with a years experience behind him i would really enjoy it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erikk
    We saw what happened in his last attempt at 147, I think he stays at 140 for a while.

    For those sayin he would fight Cotto & Oscar etc at any weight that crazy no way he beats those guys at 147 & up. I think Hatton would struggle with most guys in the top 10 at 147.
    I agree with you saying he would find it hard to beat them but you have to think about training and maturing into the weight. I think a match up with anybody in the top 10 would be a good,edge of your seat fight! i really want to see Hatton get back to 147 soon and be with the big guns again.

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    IMO What he has is mind is Urango, June 2 againstCastillo in a possible PPV then if he comes through all that, a superfight PPV at 147/154 against Cotto, Mayweather, Mosley or Oscar.
    Hatton at 154 ? isnt that bit to far out of his depth? the big names imo are at 147 there is no need for him going that far up. so is this just a thoery or has he acctually said those words ?
    He'd face Oscar, Mayweather, Mosley or Cotto regardless of weight class. They are his own words.
    Intresting so he doesnt have any needs to stay at 140 then ? what i dont understand know is why the F*** is he fighting Urango then ?
    His next fight is Castillo, which is a super fight in its own right. That one is at 140. Urango is a world title fight, a re-adjustment to 140, and should be a barnstorrmer while it lasts, to get the american fans talking.
    Intresing! cheers for the info bro i thought that he was just gona stay at 140 and be a nonrisk taker!
    Of course, I'm pro-Hatton so someone is going to come along and say that he's gonna be a 140 non-risk taker but at this stage of the game, Hatton and HBO will be cashing in on his style, his rep and his character to match him up against the biggest names, Cotto and Floyd don't have a name like Kostya Tszyu on their resumes' and surely they would want a name like Ricky Hatton's on theirs.
    So what if Hatton dont deliver against Urango? what will happen then? I'm scared that something bad may happen yano and it ends up Hatton staying at 140 for a long time.
    If Hatton does lose to Urango then I think thats when Hatton will go to 147, because it will be a sign that the 140 is finally too much low him to make, to be honest I think that severe weight drain is the only way Hatton loses to Urango other than a freak lucky punch, or Urango being 10 times better than we think he it.
    Yer from what i've heard i aint heard he is much but i aint seen him fight so i cant judge how good he is. But do you feel that Hatton would go back up to 147 after just having 2 fights at 140? i cant see anybody else coming to chase Hatton at 140 too high risk imo.

    CC ive enjoyed the talk so far!
    Its well known in the UK that Junior Witter has been chasing a fight with Hatton for years, but for some reason or another it has never transpired. Witter now has the WBC title, winning it by beating Chop Chop Corley in an absolute stinker when it was vacated by Floyd Mayweather, and is fighting on the same night as Hatton in the UK as part of the Sky Sports PPV broadcast, Junior is famous for being destroyed albeit on two weeks notice by Zab Judah, and has a big mouth. Witter is a switch hitter from the Brendan Ingle camp (Naz's former trainer) and used to be quite a devastating puncher, but now is very safety first and boring to watch, HBO is not intrested in showing a Witter v Hatton fight, 1. Because Witter is an asshole, and 2. the fight would be terrible, with Hatton most likely squeaking out a UD because Witter ran from him the whole time.
    Another possible match up at 140 would be the winner of Vivian Harris v Juan Lazcano but both have been exposed at 140/135 and Hatton would be going over old ground, Lazcano and Harris have both pulled out of match ups with Hatton in the past. Lazcano was the reason Hatton was so under prepared against Collazo at 147, because Lazcano pulled out just 7 weeks before the fight with a hand injury, leaving Hatton 2 options, take Collazo at 147 or scrap the HBO date. Hatton chose the former, and it nearly cost him dear. Most fighters take 3 months of preparation to un-naturally step up a weight class, Billy Graham (Hatton's trainer) begged Hatton not to take the fight because he saw something in Collazo and thought it was a bad idea going up a weight class at such short notice, but he still went ahead with it. I think next time Hatton fights at 147 he will be fully prepared. Bear in mind, the four rivals I mentioned who Hatton would step up in weight to fight, Oscar, Mosley, Cotto and Mayweather all began life at lower weight classes, so the size differential would probably not be too much a problem.
    Being honest would a match up with Lazcano/harris be good to watch ? i just dont see it being too attrative on the basis of their last match up. Lazcano was favoured by the judges and should not have won against a no good bum! and Harris got ko'd against Maussa who Hatton ko'd. The 4 rivals sound tempting and i would like to see Ricky fight any of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bilbo
    First of all, lets get one thing out of the way, Ricky Hatton will never fight Oscar De La Hoya or Floyd Mayweather. These two would never, ever, ever happen.

    Ricky is a great junior welterweight but he's been far surpassed by the likes of Oscar and Floyd, two guys who have ambitions way beyond fighting Ricky Hatton.

    Oscar wants to beat the best p4p fighter in the world, Floyd wants world titles at 5 different weights so neither is going to move down two divisions to face Hatton, and Hattone certainly isn't going to come up any time soon.


    As for Ricky's future at 140, I think there are some good fights out there for him. The potential megafight with Castillo would be huge, Diego Coralles is rumoured to be moving up to 147 but will no doubt fancy a fight or two at 140 just to dip his toes, so two potential great matchups there.

    A domestic showdown with Witter surely isn't too far away, I'd imagine negotiations would begin by the end of the year if both are still world champions for a fight in the summer of 2008 or thereabouts.

    Looking to the future there are two or three potential big names coming to 140 lb.

    Lamont Peterson could be in position to launch a title challenge by 2008 and Britain's own Amir Khan will probably be at world level around 2009. I'd expect Khan to be a light welter by the end of 2008 at the latest so I'm sure a big showdown between the pair of them could happen some time in the future.

    As for the guys above him, I honestly don't give Hatton a shot against any of the top guys at 147 lb.

    Margarito is too big, so is Williams, Mayweather would dance rings around him, Cotto would batter him at 147 lb.

    I don't honestly see any success for Hatton at 147, I couldn't see him beating Cintron to be honest.

    Ricky is a great all action fighter, but the truth is he isn't as good as people make out.

    He's the best there is at 140 now, no question, but tht is largely due to the fact that his biggest rivals at the weight have all moved up succesfully, something which Ricky unfortunately didn't manage to do
    How can you say a fight with ODLH or FM would never happen?

    If Hatton keeps winning and FM keep winning then it would be a natural fight that the fans would demand even if it seems unlightly at the moment.

    I agree that a fight with ODLH would seem a fight to far but if the fight could be made then I think Ricky should take it coz thats what being a top class fighter is all about.Defing the odds and trying to do the impossible,just like ODLH did against Hopkins.It did not do him any harm to lose to a bigger fighter.


    Who would have thought that after the first Bruno-Tyson fight that they would be having a rematch 7 or 8 years latter with BRUNO as the world champ.
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    yep considering hatton says he's only gonna stay in the game for maybe three more years then i reckon he should be chasing thte super fights aswell. but most of them if you ask me are up at welter, which would mean ricky would have to pack on the 7 pounds and move up to rumble with those boys. but if he's gonna be fighting mega fights then it doesnt leave him with much time for an easier warm up fight at welter if he's only got the three years left. i would like to see him up at welter again soon, but this time properly prepared and given enough notice. and yes there are some dangerous fights up there that he could lose, but if you ask me hatton gives any of em a nightmare in the ring and always makes for an exciting fight. he would not be a walk over for any one at welter.
    and by the way i think oscar is gonna hammer floyd. he's got more balls and could box him or fight him, and floyd will be the one goin backwards and trying to box.

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    I don't see any reason why a DLH-Hatton fight would take place. I know there were some reports somewhere of discussions between them, but I have to chalk that up to nothing but financial posturing. There is no reason for DLH to fight Hatton.
    At this point his career, DLH is fighting simply to enhance his legacy, and there are very few opponents out there who can do that for him. Ricky Hatton is not one of them. What would Oscar prove by beating Hatton? Nothing.

    The only three names that matter to DLH are Mayweather, Wright, and Trinidad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7777
    And if Floyd loses to Oscar, the next big fight out there for him alongside Cotto is Hatton. So to say it will never ever happen is wide of the mark
    I gotta disagree with this statement, bigger names for PBF are Cotto, Mosley and Margarito has been a much bigger hyped fight outside of the UK. If he beats ODLH convincingly he may move up even more to 160 to fight Jermain Taylor or Winky Wright.

    Going down to 140 or even 147 to fight Hatton will do nothing but make Hatton's fans happy.
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