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    Default Re: What if this? What if that? How about what if this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?
    C'mon mi hermano, you know you aren't gonna get a straight answer on this one.

    If Castillo wins in two rounds you will see the same posts that you are seeing now.
    "Hatton's diet is really getting to him.""Hatton is past his prime." etc. etc.
    I don't think anyone on here is gonna change their minds those that love Hatton and
    those that Hate Hatton.

    If Hatton beats Castillo, I will give him credit.
    If Castillo beats Hatton, I will give him credit.

    Although after last weekends slackerfest, they are both going to
    have to step it back-up to impress me.
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    Default Re: What if this? What if that? How about what if this?

    Why is every fighter considered overrated if they get beat? Was Duran overrated for getting beat by Hearns and Hagler? Hearns stopped Duran, so Duran was overrated but then Hagler stopped Hearns so Hearns was overrated, but then Hagler didn't stop Duran?

    If the best fighters are constantly fighting each other they will have wins and losses. JLC has several losses on his record, and he is an outstanding fighter. To every undefeated fighter out there I say one thing.....

    Your beating is coming.....

    Don't know who is gonna give it, but it's coming unless you quit before you get it, or don't fight competitive fighters. If you stay in the top levels and fight the best you will lose. Look at Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Duran, they all traded losses to one another. I don't lose any respect for a fighter that takes a loss, only fighters that don't take the risk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?
    if it happened then id see it as hatton was overrated and wasnt good enough if castillo beats him that quick i dont see it happened but like you said its what if and thats how i see it bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame
    Why is every fighter considered overrated if they get beat? Was Duran overrated for getting beat by Hearns and Hagler? Hearns stopped Duran, so Duran was overrated but then Hagler stopped Hearns so Hearns was overrated, but then Hagler didn't stop Duran?

    If the best fighters are constantly fighting each other they will have wins and losses. JLC has several losses on his record, and he is an outstanding fighter. To every undefeated fighter out there I say one thing.....

    Your beating is coming.....

    Don't know who is gonna give it, but it's coming unless you quit before you get it, or don't fight competitive fighters. If you stay in the top levels and fight the best you will lose. Look at Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Duran, they all traded losses to one another. I don't lose any respect for a fighter that takes a loss, only fighters that don't take the risk.
    duran had already proven his worth though and had moved up alot from his natrual weight hearns hit like stone and was too tall and too strong thats it

    difference is theres still questions on hatton and is unproven against top boys like corrales and castillo mayweather ect im not saying kostya wasnt top level but i think he will get alot more credit for corrales win or castillo win and if he beats mayweather which i think he wont his damn legend period

    and duran before hearns fight had gone 15 rounds against one of best middleweights of all time and only losing close decision plus his career went on hell of alot longer difference is with ricky is that he has only got about 4 fights left so if he loses to castillo that quickly no one will be interested in him really and his career will be over

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    See this is what i hate about fightfans that are so judgemental and want to accuse on fighters..

    For one.. A man who has earned two aba titles and 41 undefeated professional fights winning four world titles in the process and one europian or international and another british title is no fraud...

    Two i get sick of the doubters.. Hatton stopped tszyu how can anyman who did that be overrated.He gets his just props...

    And even if he were to loose and even get stopped i will never admit he is overrated..Because he plain isnt
    If anything he's underrated..Alot of fighters havnt made marks and theyr getting fanfare and hatton is not living up to his potential just yet..But hes still winning and still on top and he cant seem to shake the haters..

    Its simple..One styles make fights... So he could be sparked in say the fifth by jlc..
    And spark cotto and pbf both in the first...
    But obv this is not the accurate or thought through prediction to those fights and it wouldnt happen..
    But its an example of how two great fighters you could beat a greater fighter in style and loose to a lesser fighter just because of styles and bieng given a rough time...

    So in short no..I will never lay down and say hatton is overrated.. Quality speaks for itsself.. and people dont make it to the top without bieng seriously talented and skilled..
    And still theres not enough people on that top level that are as humble as hatton..
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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by luvfightgame
    Why is every fighter considered overrated if they get beat? Was Duran overrated for getting beat by Hearns and Hagler? Hearns stopped Duran, so Duran was overrated but then Hagler stopped Hearns so Hearns was overrated, but then Hagler didn't stop Duran?

    If the best fighters are constantly fighting each other they will have wins and losses. JLC has several losses on his record, and he is an outstanding fighter. To every undefeated fighter out there I say one thing.....

    Your beating is coming.....

    Don't know who is gonna give it, but it's coming unless you quit before you get it, or don't fight competitive fighters. If you stay in the top levels and fight the best you will lose. Look at Hearns, Hagler, Leonard, Duran, they all traded losses to one another. I don't lose any respect for a fighter that takes a loss, only fighters that don't take the risk.
    duran had already proven his worth though and had moved up alot from his natrual weight hearns hit like stone and was too tall and too strong thats it

    difference is theres still questions on hatton and is unproven against top boys like corrales and castillo mayweather ect im not saying kostya wasnt top level but i think he will get alot more credit for corrales win or castillo win and if he beats mayweather which i think he wont his damn legend period

    and duran before hearns fight had gone 15 rounds against one of best middleweights of all time and only losing close decision plus his career went on hell of alot longer difference is with ricky is that he has only got about 4 fights left so if he loses to castillo that quickly no one will be interested in him really and his career will be over
    Interesting comments. I wasn't comparing Hatton to Duran. Just saying in general fighters lose and it doesn't subtract what they did previously. Who cares if someone loses, styles make fights, everyone has bad days, etc.... It is the consistency that matters. James Toney had times when he didn't fight good. People said he was shot, it was just his motivation. Fighters go through that, JLC isn't shot and whoever wins this fight it doesn't make or break their career. You can lose and move on and stay in the top ranks. When you lose consistently, that's a different story.
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    Default Re: What if this? What if that? How about what if this?

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?



















    Hatton needs to utterly dominate Castillo for every round imo to keep face.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?
    C'mon mi hermano, you know you aren't gonna get a straight answer on this one.

    If Castillo wins in two rounds you will see the same posts that you are seeing now.
    "Hatton's diet is really getting to him.""Hatton is past his prime." etc. etc.
    I don't think anyone on here is gonna change their minds those that love Hatton and
    those that Hate Hatton.

    If Hatton beats Castillo, I will give him credit.
    If Castillo beats Hatton, I will give him credit.

    Although after last weekends slackerfest, they are both going to
    have to step it back-up to impress me.
    I kind of figured that. I guess there's a lot more cowards on this forum than I taught. Can't even an answer a "What if question". Pathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?
    if it happened then id see it as hatton was overrated and wasnt good enough if castillo beats him that quick i dont see it happened but like you said its what if and thats how i see it bro
    Good to see one of the youngest posters here has the heart and balls to give a straight honest answer. cc

    Quote Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
    See this is what i hate about fightfans that are so judgemental and want to accuse on fighters..

    For one.. A man who has earned two aba titles and 41 undefeated professional fights winning four world titles in the process and one europian or international and another british title is no fraud...

    Two i get sick of the doubters.. Hatton stopped tszyu how can anyman who did that be overrated.He gets his just props...

    And even if he were to loose and even get stopped i will never admit he is overrated..Because he plain isnt
    If anything he's underrated..Alot of fighters havnt made marks and theyr getting fanfare and hatton is not living up to his potential just yet..But hes still winning and still on top and he cant seem to shake the haters..

    Its simple..One styles make fights... So he could be sparked in say the fifth by jlc..
    And spark cotto and pbf both in the first...
    But obv this is not the accurate or thought through prediction to those fights and it wouldnt happen..
    But its an example of how two great fighters you could beat a greater fighter in style and loose to a lesser fighter just because of styles and bieng given a rough time...

    So in short no..I will never lay down and say hatton is overrated.. Quality speaks for itsself.. and people dont make it to the top without bieng seriously talented and skilled..
    And still theres not enough people on that top level that are as humble as hatton..
    ABC titles aren't that hard to get anymore. When a fighter as highly regarded as Hatton is has over 40 fights and only one is against an elite fighter (an aging one at that) how can there not be questions and doubters? Still you gave answer and i give you credit for it.

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    IF Hatton gets beat by Castillo in two rounds it means Hatton got knocked out in two rounds, nothing more nothing less, this is a pathetic attempt at giving people no option but to say yeah of course he MUST have been overated.

    What IF Hatton battered Mayweather in two rounds? Never going to happen but what IF? Does that mean that all Floyd has done counts for nothign as he clearly must have been overated? Of course not.

    If Hatton gets stopped in two rounds by ANYONE I will give you cash VD hows that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    IF Hatton gets beat by Castillo in two rounds it means Hatton got knocked out in two rounds, nothing more nothing less, this is a pathetic attempt at giving people no option but to say yeah of course he MUST have been overated.

    What IF Hatton battered Mayweather in two rounds? Never going to happen but what IF? Does that mean that all Floyd has done counts for nothign as he clearly must have been overated? Of course not.

    If Hatton gets stopped in two rounds by ANYONE I will give you cash VD hows that?
    Fine with me. How much? And so you know, there is another option. Go see the "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" thread. There's your other option.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.
    for a really REALLY tuff question.

    Not sure how to answer it...but I gotta go with my gut & say that he just weren't good enough with upper level opponents...even though he beat Kostya...who...lightning strike me...I for some reason never REALLY got in to.

    I like Hatton, I don't love him...I aint a fan by any means...but if he delivers...if he & Castillo have a war ala' Corrales Castillo style...one must admit the kid's good for boxing...hell...he is anyways.

    Long as he wins.

    He loses respectfully to Castillo... I don't know what I think...he get's snuffed the fwock out...I say he was handled with kid gloves & that had he fought better opposition during the first 30 or 40 fights...he'd be considered the man...but he loses to Castillo?

    A bit over hyped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by Memphis
    IF Hatton gets beat by Castillo in two rounds it means Hatton got knocked out in two rounds, nothing more nothing less, this is a pathetic attempt at giving people no option but to say yeah of course he MUST have been overated.

    What IF Hatton battered Mayweather in two rounds? Never going to happen but what IF? Does that mean that all Floyd has done counts for nothign as he clearly must have been overated? Of course not.

    If Hatton gets stopped in two rounds by ANYONE I will give you cash VD hows that?
    Fine with me. How much? And so you know, there is another option. Go see the "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" thread. There's your other option.
    What bollocks. Are you trying to tell me that anyone other than hardcore Hatton fans will praise him if he goes down fighting against Castillo, who now it seems is shot to pieces? Do me a favour, the knives are being sharpened as we speak just in case. Take a look at the stick he is gettin for WINNING a fight.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?
    C'mon mi hermano, you know you aren't gonna get a straight answer on this one.

    If Castillo wins in two rounds you will see the same posts that you are seeing now.
    "Hatton's diet is really getting to him.""Hatton is past his prime." etc. etc.
    I don't think anyone on here is gonna change their minds those that love Hatton and
    those that Hate Hatton.

    If Hatton beats Castillo, I will give him credit.
    If Castillo beats Hatton, I will give him credit.

    Although after last weekends slackerfest, they are both going to
    have to step it back-up to impress me.
    I kind of figured that. I guess there's a lot more cowards on this forum than I taught. Can't even an answer a "What if question". Pathetic.

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise
    A lot of questions about Hatton are being asked. About his future opponents. His health. His p4p standing. A lot of different things. One of the recent questions was "Will Hatton get the credit if he beats Castillo?" Good interesting question. I guess some people feel Hatton is not getting the respect he deserves and want to know if beating Castillo will earn him that respect. Fine by me. I gave my answer on that thread. But it lead me to ask my own question.

    How will Hatton be looked at if Castillo stops him in, lets say 2 rounds? Controversy free.

    Will these Hatton groupies admit that Hatton was always overrated? Or will they make fools of themselves by making silly excuses? How will the boxing world look at him?
    if it happened then id see it as hatton was overrated and wasnt good enough if castillo beats him that quick i dont see it happened but like you said its what if and thats how i see it bro
    Good to see one of the youngest posters here has the heart and balls to give a straight honest answer. cc

    Quote Originally Posted by Tito_BHB
    See this is what i hate about fightfans that are so judgemental and want to accuse on fighters..

    For one.. A man who has earned two aba titles and 41 undefeated professional fights winning four world titles in the process and one europian or international and another british title is no fraud...

    Two i get sick of the doubters.. Hatton stopped tszyu how can anyman who did that be overrated.He gets his just props...

    And even if he were to loose and even get stopped i will never admit he is overrated..Because he plain isnt
    If anything he's underrated..Alot of fighters havnt made marks and theyr getting fanfare and hatton is not living up to his potential just yet..But hes still winning and still on top and he cant seem to shake the haters..

    Its simple..One styles make fights... So he could be sparked in say the fifth by jlc..
    And spark cotto and pbf both in the first...
    But obv this is not the accurate or thought through prediction to those fights and it wouldnt happen..
    But its an example of how two great fighters you could beat a greater fighter in style and loose to a lesser fighter just because of styles and bieng given a rough time...

    So in short no..I will never lay down and say hatton is overrated.. Quality speaks for itsself.. and people dont make it to the top without bieng seriously talented and skilled..
    And still theres not enough people on that top level that are as humble as hatton..
    ABC titles aren't that hard to get anymore. When a fighter as highly regarded as Hatton is has over 40 fights and only one is against an elite fighter (an aging one at that) how can there not be questions and doubters? Still you gave answer and i give you credit for it.
    cc back mate i know quite few posters dont like you vd but i respect you i like a person that speaks there mind and dont hide anything always interesting to see your posts

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    Yeh i get you vd my man...
    Its all good.. I respect others who want the strait answers and i give the strait answers cos i want them back...

    Wbu.. Fair enough the wbu speaks for itself..Although it is in my opinion the highest regarded lower quey title...

    I truely beleive that the ibf title ricky took from tszyu was the real deal.. he became the man by beating the man.. Thats where alot of my respect comes from towards ricky.. Because he's shown he's not just there for the title like some fighters have just came and won a paper title and moved on to another wieght class or dropped it for another fight etc..

    And granted look at the lww division right now.. Mbaye and witter are title holders.. before witter it was corley..I guy who was just that step below all the top fighters and gave em all a good fight..
    and if corley was ever material to have beaten witter.. It would have been knocked out of him by zab and floyd in fights where he wasnt overall embarrassed he did himself justice imo..
    PLus raising fourteen quid will tend to drag your mind towards putting food on the table and less for the legacy..
    Torres i'll allow..I quite like him and hes a solid fighter.. But hes a little step above a untrodden corley..

    I do think the whole over fourty fights and 1 good fighter is bs if im honest though...
    List of worthy opponents beaten by hatton..
    Eamon magee..Dont know if you checked him out..But i wont have anyone tell me he aint tough as nails..
    Ben tackie.. Another bloke that nver made it.. But just a downright bruiser who comes to fight
    Vince philips..Maybe not a world beater but hattons intention for as much as two odd years before he actually caught up with kostya was to fight kostya.. And he fought most of these names who were tied in with kostya to prove he was worth the shot.. so phillips since he was the only other man to have beaten him...

    And even after having beaten tszyu.. I mean he fought maussa... Lets have it right..Maussa is crap
    But he had the title and hatton wanted it..Everybody was saying fight harris but harris lost the title
    So maussa it was..
    Collazo..I think its fair to say the brooklyn boy is a tough cookie..But hatton won that fight..
    And he won last night.. at the end of the day though as long as hatton keeps winning and it safe to say he wants the big names.. We really cant diss him.. And no one is invincible.. Even if he looses No way is he overrated
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