peter furious at wbc klitschko and maskaev

[bigragu]

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Take your emotion away from this topic, and you can clearly see, that peter has entered a sport, and division that has rules, and regulations. And it clearly states that

Championship Defense Obligations.

a) Voluntary Defense Obligations: All WBC recognized champions must defend their title at least two (2) times a year. Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense, as follows:

i) any of the top ten (10) rated contenders;

ii) upon a majority vote of the Board of Governors, any boxer rated from 11 to 19 positions;

iii) a champion or a top-10 rated boxer of another immediate lower or higher weight division, subject to the majority vote of the Board of Governors;

iv) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors; and

v) another boxing organization’s champion recognized by the WBC, upon majority vote of the Board of Governors.
Now, I can understand the frustration because peter has fought 2 times to get this shot, But no one cares that vitali was the champ, and did the honorable thing and retired the belt instead of hold on to it, and fight to keep it while he got better. He let someone else take it, and run with it….
Not only that, but WBC holds the right to choose between the two options here, the number 1 contender, or a heavyweight champ that has retired, and then came back… I.E

Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest.

Now if you want to challenge whether or not vitali is legendary, that’s up to , and the can be a debate for another day. But, peter isnt fighting blind, and if he doesn’t know these rules, or like them… He can either pick a different sport…OR WAIT if he is told to. Not to mention that a fight between Vitali and Oleg would be huge GLOBALY, a lot bigger and samuel peter could ever make it.

[/quote]cc bro.....great find!!

[Preme]

http://www.saddoboxing.com/4618-pete...o-maskaev.html

Peter better watchout for what he wishes for, he just might get it.....the opportunity that is....the only reason he was even up for a shot is because of the horrible state of the hw division....Vitali is twice the fighter Peter is....and let's face it...a cut was the only thing standing in the way of Vitali getting lewis's belt outright....

Whatever Peter's ability or lack of the fact is that he worked to get his shot. He fought in a world title eliminator for the chance to become Maskaev's mandatory.

He won.

The WBC didn't like it so they made him fight the match again.


He won again.

The WBC still didn't like it so now they are giving a retired former champ HIS (Peter's) shot?

That is just corrupt, plain and simple.

Peter must surely have a case against the WBC for this. He has wasted an entire year of his career fighting for the right to be the WBC mandatory, he's provided them and the the boxing world with two of the best heavyweight fights in recent years against Toney AND he's paid his sacntioning fees to the WBC twice.

The WBC are wankers, filthy, corrupt lowlife scum.

CC agree with that;

i could understand if the WBC just turned around and said oleg had to defend his belt againt peter next but then change it hearing the news of vitali coming back. Something like the soto-barrera situation, soto hadn't fought any eliminators, but coz pac couldn't fight mab they orderd the soto fight but agreed to let JMM fight due to how rgeat the fight would be and how much the fans wnated it BUT peter has paid his due sin more ways than one,t wice winning bouts to be given his shot and then having it unfairly taken away from him is bullshit...

you can understand why kilt and peter want the shot asap tho, they all knw my boy ruiz is du a come back and will unify the heavys

[Bx730NY]

You keep trying to tell people that they are blinded by their love for a fighter and this and that but you're clearly the one that seems to have a hard on for the Klits. Are they gonna give Peter the sanctioning fees he paid to be mandatory? NO! Are they gonna give Peter his hard training? No! Should he get his title shot NOW? Of course!

Wake up and stop being such a hater. You're starting to sound like Lyle.

do i like the klitschko's? YES, i think they are great heavyweights, with Great attitudes.
HOWEVER, i will not avoid facts, or questions like you. So do not label me, or compare me to anyone until you yourself stop acting like a "hater"
Has anything i have said, not been fact?
Lets review the past couple days, and see who really has the Hard On for a fighter.
1) Wasnt it you who said, "peter can knock out both Klitschko brothers, on the same night" Yea, thats why he couldnt even do it the first Time EVEN WITH RABBIT PUNCHES
2)You have been asked a question about defending your points, but you refuse to answer them, because there is only 1 truth. And it doesnt fit your arguement so you ignore it
let me recap the question and give you another shot
Wladdy Klitschko
KO'd a Calvin brock in 7
KO’d Chris byrd in 7
And a convincing UD over samuel peter.
Samuel peter
Got schooled, and shown as a one dimensional fighter against Wlad klits
Then KO’d Julius long in 1 ( lmao 14-7)
Then a SD against James toney (which I still question)
Then a UD against James toney

So where does it make the point that samuel peter cant be pushed aside?His biggest name on his resume was a loss to klitschko…
I mean, Klits Beat the friggen guy (peter) what else does he have to do, to be ahead of him in line to fight maskaev??
3)You have said that you were a fan of wlad until he starting Holding and Grabing. now you dont respect him for that, But you never mention the REPEATED rabbit punches by samuel peter. NEVER.
4)Then you also say that if the ref had control of the fight between wlad and peter that peter would of Ko'd him, thas a big joke...a real big joke from a Novice boxing fan.
5) AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE, you also made this comment.
Now that Peter has improved and Wlad knows that, he just wants win the title from Maskaev and then drop it when he's forced to fight Peter as the mandatory.
Biggest crock of shite possible, wlad would go through all the trouble to get the WBC belt, then drop it because he doesnt want to fight a guy HE ALREADY SCHOOLED. Dude, keep watchin the fights, and maybe in a few years try another arguement, because the statements above show that you IF ANYONE have the LUST for a fighter.

Novice huh? I guess that explains why I keep making good points and you don't get what the sport is about. You just keep saying the same thing over and over again. Asking me well what about this and what about that. I answer and you still don't get it. Stick around and keep reading my posts, maybe you'll learn something.

[Bx730NY]

Can't wait for Peter to KO Wladdy. I wanna hear what the Klit fans are gonna say then.

[tuckwopat]

Sanctioning body rules are like the bible, they can convert and stretch the meaning to fit any circumstance they want.

At the very very least, they should have Vitali and Peter fight for it. I mean if they are willing to ignore rankings 1 through 10, why not just ignore the current champ and give Vitali the belt.

Under their regulations, a fighter can retire instead of fighting up and coming dangerous fighters, and just come back whenever a weaker champion comes along.

[El Kabong]

WBC said Vitali could come back anytime he was healthy enough to fight and IMMEDIATELY fight for the championship belt.


TOUGH SHIT SAM PETER!!!! (Go after Shannon Briggs!!!!!)

[tuckwopat]

WBC said Vitali could come back anytime he was healthy enough to fight and IMMEDIATELY fight for the championship belt.


TOUGH S*** SAM PETER!!!! (Go after Shannon Briggs!!!!!)

Peter played all the WBC's games, including paying his fees. I hate these organizations. They're just gunning for more $.

Boxing is a step from being a complete joke of a sport.

[El Kabong]

Hey it's happened to more than JUST Sam Peter.....is it bad? Yeah....but it's now going to happen bad or not, and Sam Peter should have other options seeing how he's a hot commodity in this division.

Briggs, Wladimir, Valuev, Ruiz, Byrd....it ain't like he should be HURTING for opponents.

Yes Sam Peter deserves a title shot and if they are feeding Maskaev to Vitali they should feed Valuev or Briggs to Sam Peter.

Briggs had been talking mad shit about EVERYONE out there, now Sam can say "Back it up" and IMO Briggs is a MUCH better fight for Sam Peter. It's a way to prove himself vs a tall guy with a good jab and good power and Sam can KO Briggs there is no doubt in my mind

[tuckwopat]

Hey it's happened to more than JUST Sam Peter.....is it bad? Yeah....but it's now going to happen bad or not, and Sam Peter should have other options seeing how he's a hot commodity in this division.

Briggs, Wladimir, Valuev, Ruiz, Byrd....it ain't like he should be HURTING for opponents.

Yes Sam Peter deserves a title shot and if they are feeding Maskaev to Vitali they should feed Valuev or Briggs to Sam Peter.

Briggs had been talking mad S*** about EVERYONE out there, now Sam can say "Back it up" and IMO Briggs is a MUCH better fight for Sam Peter. It's a way to prove himself vs a tall guy with a good jab and good power and Sam can KO Briggs there is no doubt in my mind

Imaging waiting in line for a fight, paying your dues, fighting everyone they say to fight, just to be told to go jump in another line. How cheap is that?

[El Kabong]

Yeah Don King does it all the time.....what about fight and be the best but you'll never move up in THIS sanctioning body!

That's cheap!

[Big_Deuce]

You keep trying to tell people that they are blinded by their love for a fighter and this and that but you're clearly the one that seems to have a hard on for the Klits. Are they gonna give Peter the sanctioning fees he paid to be mandatory? NO! Are they gonna give Peter his hard training? No! Should he get his title shot NOW? Of course!

Wake up and stop being such a hater. You're starting to sound like Lyle.

do i like the klitschko's? YES, i think they are great heavyweights, with Great attitudes.
HOWEVER, i will not avoid facts, or questions like you. So do not label me, or compare me to anyone until you yourself stop acting like a "hater"
Has anything i have said, not been fact?
Lets review the past couple days, and see who really has the Hard On for a fighter.
1) Wasnt it you who said, "peter can knock out both Klitschko brothers, on the same night" Yea, thats why he couldnt even do it the first Time EVEN WITH RABBIT PUNCHES
2)You have been asked a question about defending your points, but you refuse to answer them, because there is only 1 truth. And it doesnt fit your arguement so you ignore it
let me recap the question and give you another shot
Wladdy Klitschko
KO'd a Calvin brock in 7
KO’d Chris byrd in 7
And a convincing UD over samuel peter.
Samuel peter
Got schooled, and shown as a one dimensional fighter against Wlad klits
Then KO’d Julius long in 1 ( lmao 14-7)
Then a SD against James toney (which I still question)
Then a UD against James toney

So where does it make the point that samuel peter cant be pushed aside?His biggest name on his resume was a loss to klitschko…
I mean, Klits Beat the friggen guy (peter) what else does he have to do, to be ahead of him in line to fight maskaev??
3)You have said that you were a fan of wlad until he starting Holding and Grabing. now you dont respect him for that, But you never mention the REPEATED rabbit punches by samuel peter. NEVER.
4)Then you also say that if the ref had control of the fight between wlad and peter that peter would of Ko'd him, thas a big joke...a real big joke from a Novice boxing fan.
5) AND MY PERSONAL FAVORITE, you also made this comment.
Now that Peter has improved and Wlad knows that, he just wants win the title from Maskaev and then drop it when he's forced to fight Peter as the mandatory.
Biggest crock of shite possible, wlad would go through all the trouble to get the WBC belt, then drop it because he doesnt want to fight a guy HE ALREADY SCHOOLED. Dude, keep watchin the fights, and maybe in a few years try another arguement, because the statements above show that you IF ANYONE have the LUST for a fighter.

Novice huh? I guess that explains why I keep making good points and you don't get what the sport is about. You just keep saying the same thing over and over again. Asking me well what about this and what about that. I answer and you still don't get it. Stick around and keep reading my posts, maybe you'll learn something.

GOOD POINTS?
NAME ME 1, your a silly kid, for real. Name me one good point that you made that isnt Opinionated, and is based on fact.... go ahead...thats your homework assignment for the week. Because so far, everything you have said is based on HOW YOU FEEL, not on ACTUAL FACT, so be gone..and come back when u scoop up some knowledge.

Answered what? you never answered anything, you dance around it, and talk enough, hopin that you can bypass it, or ill forget. But you aint answered NOTHING. So from now on, until you do answer, i will follow up with every post i see of yours with this...

let me recap the question and give you another shot
Wladdy Klitschko
KO'd a Calvin brock in 7
KO’d Chris byrd in 7
And a convincing UD over samuel peter.
Samuel peter
Got schooled, and shown as a one dimensional fighter against Wlad klits
Then KO’d Julius long in 1 ( lmao 14-7)
Then a SD against James toney (which I still question)
Then a UD against James toney

So where does it make the point that samuel peter cant be pushed aside?His biggest name on his resume was a loss to klitschko…
I mean, Klits Beat the friggen guy (peter) what else does he have to do, to be ahead of him in line to fight maskaev??

yea i know its long, but until u suck it up, and say "i cant answer that" or actually give me an answer. It will follow you for a long while.
Youll grow up and learn not to pick fights, in which you know nothing about. And youll thank me.

[Big_Deuce]

Take your emotion away from this topic, and you can clearly see, that peter has entered a sport, and division that has rules, and regulations. And it clearly states that

Championship Defense Obligations.

a) Voluntary Defense Obligations: All WBC recognized champions must defend their title at least two (2) times a year. Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense, as follows:

i) any of the top ten (10) rated contenders;

ii) upon a majority vote of the Board of Governors, any boxer rated from 11 to 19 positions;

iii) a champion or a top-10 rated boxer of another immediate lower or higher weight division, subject to the majority vote of the Board of Governors;

iv) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors; and

v) another boxing organization’s champion recognized by the WBC, upon majority vote of the Board of Governors.
Now, I can understand the frustration because peter has fought 2 times to get this shot, But no one cares that vitali was the champ, and did the honorable thing and retired the belt instead of hold on to it, and fight to keep it while he got better. He let someone else take it, and run with it….
Not only that, but WBC holds the right to choose between the two options here, the number 1 contender, or a heavyweight champ that has retired, and then came back… I.E

Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest.

Now if you want to challenge whether or not vitali is legendary, that’s up to , and the can be a debate for another day. But, peter isnt fighting blind, and if he doesn’t know these rules, or like them… He can either pick a different sport…OR WAIT if he is told to. Not to mention that a fight between Vitali and Oleg would be huge GLOBALY, a lot bigger and samuel peter could ever make it.

[/quote]cc bro.....great find!!
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thanks bud, (cc back in 4
in the end, you cannot ignore FACT or RULES.
Im not saying it doesnt suck, or that its not pissen someone off. BUT it is what it is, take it for what its worth.
if peter has to fight the Klits and Oleg winner, so be it. Be a professional and stop cryin.

[tuckwopat]

Take your emotion away from this topic, and you can clearly see, that peter has entered a sport, and division that has rules, and regulations. And it clearly states that

Championship Defense Obligations.

a) Voluntary Defense Obligations: All WBC recognized champions must defend their title at least two (2) times a year. Champions will defend their titles either in a voluntary or mandatory defense, as follows:

i) any of the top ten (10) rated contenders;

ii) upon a majority vote of the Board of Governors, any boxer rated from 11 to 19 positions;

iii) a champion or a top-10 rated boxer of another immediate lower or higher weight division, subject to the majority vote of the Board of Governors;

iv) a former or retired world champion upon majority vote of the Board of Governors; and

v) another boxing organization’s champion recognized by the WBC, upon majority vote of the Board of Governors.
Now, I can understand the frustration because peter has fought 2 times to get this shot, But no one cares that vitali was the champ, and did the honorable thing and retired the belt instead of hold on to it, and fight to keep it while he got better. He let someone else take it, and run with it….
Not only that, but WBC holds the right to choose between the two options here, the number 1 contender, or a heavyweight champ that has retired, and then came back… I.E

Under extreme special circumstances, such as an unification bout or a proposed bout with a legendary boxer, that could result in a great promotion, prestige, and importance for the sport of boxing, the WBC may sanction such bout as a mandatory bout. If a mandatory challenger had already been appointed by the WBC, the winner of the special bout will then face the mandatory challenger without an intervening contest.

Now if you want to challenge whether or not vitali is legendary, that’s up to , and the can be a debate for another day. But, peter isnt fighting blind, and if he doesn’t know these rules, or like them… He can either pick a different sport…OR WAIT if he is told to. Not to mention that a fight between Vitali and Oleg would be huge GLOBALY, a lot bigger and samuel peter could ever make it.

cc bro.....great find!!
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thanks bud, (cc back in 4
in the end, you cannot ignore FACT or RULES.
Im not saying it doesnt suck, or that its not pissen someone off. BUT it is what it is, take it for what its worth.
if peter has to fight the Klits and Oleg winner, so be it. Be a professional and stop cryin.
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I love that last line, "Be professional and stop cryin." The crooked sanctioning bodies are about the least professional organizations of any sport. The rules that these bodies have created are ridiculous, and are implemented differently depending on which fighter they prefer. (whoever makes them $)

It must be nice to cherry pick rules to live by.

[Big_Deuce]

The crooked sanctioning bodies are about the least professional organizations of any sport. The rules that these bodies have created are ridiculous, and are implemented differently depending on which fighter they prefer. (whoever makes them $)

It must be nice to cherry pick rules to live by.

your kidding right? Name me 1 sport where the "organizations are pure"

You have the NFL who barely punishes steroid users knowing that the bigger they are,the harder they hit and the more will watch, Even to go as far as to give heads up to teams in advanced on not only how many but exactly who will be tested.

MLB who has JUST RECENTLY set rules against steroids. This same MLB bans one man for betting on the sport he plays, but glorifies a steroid user who just might break the all time home run record.

Fifa association, who covers up almost all blood doping incidents, racial incidents (between players on the same team!!), also how crooked they are in selected hosting countries for the world cup. I mean, how in the hell can you one country host it almost half a dozen times, WHEN THERE ARE OTHER SUITABLE COUNTRIES WHO LIVE THE SPORT, THAT HAVENT HOSTED IT ONCE!.
I mean im from the USA, but we just might host it again, and soccer is as popular as ping pong in this country. HOW FAIR IS THAT? Its all about revenue. dont kid yourself.

WBC SET this rule way before the vitali klitschkos, lennox lewis, and mike tysons came around. And just because this RULE is being inforced people want to cry out CONSPIRACY. listen, if they just stuck vitali in out of no where without any explanation, then i would be on the hate bandwagon, BUT. Rules are Rules. Vitali retired the way he did, knowing, that at any time he was healthy he could be MANDATORY.
I wont defend the WBC, however, if its rule, and has been a rule, why is everyone so surprised or upset. Get over it.

[the phenom]

im sad to say but peter really does deserve that title shot