Joe Calzaghe vs Clinton Woods

[dumdane]

Calzaghe - probably even convincingly (unless Calzaghe is seriously starting to decline)

At LHW i think that both Dawson, Erdei and probably even Adamek are tougher challenges than Woods. Hopkins perhaps too.

Which is exactly why Woods, despite the disagreements between promoters, is still a very likely opponent.

Where do you get this impression that Calzaghe is looking for easy opponents

FW may be looking for easy opponents - but JC isn't!

And how do you determine exactly how much is Fwank's doing and how much is Calzaghe's doing?

You CHOOSE to believe that Joe is the innocent victim of Fwank.

Whenever they make a good/bold move it's all Joe being the hero.
But when they don't do the "right" thing, Fwank is solely to blame - that how it is?

Joe get's his share of the money they make too you know.

[Tysonbruno]

The fight has'nt happend because Joe was ringside when Woods fought Johnson and realised if he fought either of them he would have a fight on his hands and why fight a tough fight when he can fight manfredo and probably get more money doing it.Joe is a legend in his own head he will never have a career defining fight.

[ono]

The fight has'nt happend because Joe was ringside when Woods fought Johnson and realised if he fought either of them he would have a fight on his hands and why fight a tough fight when he can fight manfredo and probably get more money doing it.Joe is a legend in his own head he will never have a career defining fight.

Rewind 12 months and Jeff Lacy was 'the career defining fight.' Joe won it so convincingly it convinced the americans that Lacy was pure hype. There aint no fighter out there who Joe can beat without critics coming up with a ton of reasons why its not a great win.

Let's look at the options....and possible comeback if Calzaghe were to beat them

Lacy....already done him, was the next tyson apparently

winky wright.......Too small for him and 'Joe's style' would give Joe the advantage (very busy fighter throws a lot of combo's - winky doesn't fire back until opponent stops throwing

jermain Taylor....Too small for him. Despite beating D-Hop twice and drawing with Winky he has not been that convincing anyway.

Mikkel Kessler.....Would be labelled all hype if Calzaghe was to school him.....like Lacy but european so that makes if worse....right?

Librado Andrade.....He's just a prospect anyway and he won't fight Calzaghe unless he beats Kessler

Bernard Hopkins.....Past his prime even tho he has just schooled Antonio Tarver (who is alledgedly shit anyway cos he only beat a 'past it' roy jones) Don't get me started on that 1 anyway. Roy Jones already beaten Hopkins anyway so Calzaghe wouldn't get that much credit.

Clinton Woods......Already been beaten by Glenn Johnson and schooled by Roy Jones. So again he's never going to come close to getting Roy Jones like status by beating fighters Jones has already beaten.

Glenn Johnson.....Old man, just lost to Clinton Woods......enough said.

I don't think there is anyone out there that would shut his critics up.All of his rivals seem to have beaten each other anyway. I can only hope Roy Jones get's a fantastic victory under his belt in his next fight and these 2 can get it on. I can hear the critics calling already.........

[Sovereign]

well said cc

[BIG H]

The fight has'nt happend because Joe was ringside when Woods fought Johnson and realised if he fought either of them he would have a fight on his hands and why fight a tough fight when he can fight manfredo and probably get more money doing it.Joe is a legend in his own head he will never have a career defining fight.

Rewind 12 months and Jeff Lacy was 'the career defining fight.' Joe won it so convincingly it convinced the americans that Lacy was pure hype. There aint no fighter out there who Joe can beat without critics coming up with a ton of reasons why its not a great win.

Let's look at the options....and possible comeback if Calzaghe were to beat them

Lacy....already done him, was the next tyson apparently

winky wright.......Too small for him and 'Joe's style' would give Joe the advantage (very busy fighter throws a lot of combo's - winky doesn't fire back until opponent stops throwing

jermain Taylor....Too small for him. Despite beating D-Hop twice and drawing with Winky he has not been that convincing anyway.

Mikkel Kessler.....Would be labelled all hype if Calzaghe was to school him.....like Lacy but european so that makes if worse....right?

Librado Andrade.....He's just a prospect anyway and he won't fight Calzaghe unless he beats Kessler

Bernard Hopkins.....Past his prime even tho he has just schooled Antonio Tarver (who is alledgedly S*** anyway cos he only beat a 'past it' roy jones) Don't get me started on that 1 anyway. Roy Jones already beaten Hopkins anyway so Calzaghe wouldn't get that much credit.

Clinton Woods......Already been beaten by Glenn Johnson and schooled by Roy Jones. So again he's never going to come close to getting Roy Jones like status by beating fighters Jones has already beaten.

Glenn Johnson.....Old man, just lost to Clinton Woods......enough said.

I don't think there is anyone out there that would shut his critics up.All of his rivals seem to have beaten each other anyway. I can only hope Roy Jones get's a fantastic victory under his belt in his next fight and these 2 can get it on. I can hear the critics calling already.........

Good pot and very true CC

He would have to beat Valuev, Klitchko and Peter to be considered The Real Deal and get the credit he deserves

[ono]

CC #703 Big H

I think the only fight he could possibly take is Chad Dawson now he's the champ at light heavy....but again, the prospect thing comes into it.

[Sovereign]

The biggest fight out there is Joe Calzaghe, but thats not too likely to happen for political reasons, but there are a few other options. Chad Dawson and Zsolt Erdei spring to mind, the Roy Jones rematch has been openly talked about too. He might catch Calzaghe at the end of their careers, that'd be a good fight for them both go out on.