were people suprised that green vs miranda ............ spoilers

[The Boxer]

i don't know much about either guy. matter fact last night was the first time i saw either of them. they kept saying green was the better boxer but Miranda the shorter guy seem to be out jabing him

[Hulk]

I was actually disappointed in both of them to be honest. Allan Green proved he had the heart and mouth of an Audley Harrison, backing up his confidnet smack talk with a thouroughly lamentable display in the ring.

I was pleased to see Miranda try and press for every single round, you have to give him credit for trying but honestly he's too lacking in the skill departments to be able to live up to his hype.

Personally I think at 160 Taylor, Pavlick and Abraham all beat Miranda, and at 168lb I'd fancy Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Froch, maybe Mundine and Bute too all to do a number on him.

He's getting knocked out by Pavlick in his next fight.

As for Green, I don't know what went wrong for him. His mind didn't seem on the job, he spent more time looking at the referee and his feet than at Miranda, turned his back to Pantera about 5 times in the fight and generally looked to have no fight in him whatsoever.

How much of that was due to the weight loss and how much due to AudleyHarrisonism I don't know.

But I'm fairly confident that neither will be a major player at 160 or 168lb for long.

We usually agree, but not this time man. Miranda will rip Pavlik's head off and shat down his neck! I think he would stop Jermain Taylor late. Last night's fight was not the war I hoped it would be, but it was pretty good. Miranda pressed the action and Green just played it safe, rolling his head to the right side to avoid the right and keepin his right hand up to block the left. He also clinched a good deal. He did manage to land his left hook and drop Miranda, which I was not surprised by. BUT Miranda got up like a champion and tried to close the show like a champion. Did you see him in the last round when the ref would break them? Miranda was chompin at the bit and literally running after Green trying to KO him, even with the big lead. Miranda is a very hungry fighter and he is gonna be a world champion.

[Kev]

I was actually disappointed in both of them to be honest. Allan Green proved he had the heart and mouth of an Audley Harrison, backing up his confidnet smack talk with a thouroughly lamentable display in the ring.

I was pleased to see Miranda try and press for every single round, you have to give him credit for trying but honestly he's too lacking in the skill departments to be able to live up to his hype.

Personally I think at 160 Taylor, Pavlick and Abraham all beat Miranda, and at 168lb I'd fancy Calzaghe, Kessler, Andrade, Froch, maybe Mundine and Bute too all to do a number on him.

He's getting knocked out by Pavlick in his next fight.

As for Green, I don't know what went wrong for him. His mind didn't seem on the job, he spent more time looking at the referee and his feet than at Miranda, turned his back to Pantera about 5 times in the fight and generally looked to have no fight in him whatsoever.

How much of that was due to the weight loss and how much due to AudleyHarrisonism I don't know.

But I'm fairly confident that neither will be a major player at 160 or 168lb for long.

We usually agree, but not this time man. Miranda will rip Pavlik's head off and shat down his neck! I think he would stop Jermain Taylor late. Last night's fight was not the war I hoped it would be, but it was pretty good. Miranda pressed the action and Green just played it safe, rolling his head to the right side to avoid the right and keepin his right hand up to block the left. He also clinched a good deal. He did manage to land his left hook and drop Miranda, which I was not surprised by. BUT Miranda got up like a champion and tried to close the show like a champion. Did you see him in the last round when the ref would break them? Miranda was chompin at the bit and literally running after Green trying to KO him, even with the big lead. Miranda is a very hungry fighter and he is gonna be a world champion.

He's definitely got the heart no doubt about that, but I see him as an inferior version of Jeff Lacy. More natural strength maybe but less ability.

When he fights a confident, master boxer he's going to get picked apart. Abraham rocked him a few times, Green dropped him and both were fighting on the back foot. A fighter like Pavlick with the reach and skills to keep him on the end of his jab all night could box his head off.

But I agree 100% that he never gives up and has all the heart and courage in the world. Plus if he can land he can take anybody out from 160lb to 175lb.

But history shows that all virtually all punchers get knocked out when they face a master boxer, and Miranda is not the greatest offensive fighter of all time. He has huge natural strength and a very hard punch, but that won't be enough to beat the world's best.

He could pick up a title for sure but he's never making it amongst the best in any division.

[RozzySean]

I agree 99%. I'm just not sold that Pavlik is a "master boxer" who can take advantages of Miranda's weaknesses like Calzaghe did to Lacy. He's got more skills, yes, but he still shows some flaws of his own, flaws that could get him KO'd by Miranda. I think Joe C or Jermaine Taylor probably take him to school. Pavlik MAY be a guy who can do it, but I'm not going to be sold on him until I see him in with a real fighter.