*Breaking News* It's OFFICIAL - Miranda vs. Pavlik on May 19th on HBO*

[OumaFan]

I would give Pavlik a decent shot, but its hard to say cause he really hasn't been tested yet by a good fighter.

I guess the most likely outcome is that Miranda ends up being too strong for him, its not like either guy's that good defensively, and Pavlik might be getting too big for the weight, with the deal with him telling his corner in the last fight that he couldn't feel his legs, couldn't move well. Miranda seems sturdier although its hard to tell cause Pavlik hasn't been in with a big puncher.

But Miranda's very beatable, that wide sweeping lead left hook is gonna get him in trouble one of these days against a big puncher. I couldn't figure out why Green wouldn't try to time him with a right over it when Miranda was coming in, he's really open for the right hand.

[Kev]

The widely different viewpoints on this post all point to what an entertaining matchup this would be.

Personally I'd pick Pavlick to take him to school, but Miranda is so strong and has so much heart that you could never count him out.

A great fight in the making though and I think Pavlick would make the fight a lot more entertaining than Green did.

To be honest since Codrington, Green has looked shat every time out, well if you discount his beatdown of the world's greatest dad which I'm sure you all do. :P

I thought Green had a live chance though but he seemed to have no fight in him yesterday. Maybe the weight drained him, it's certainly not where he should be fighting.

Miranda weighed 176 on fight night though so how long can he remain at 160 for? 168 is just starting to get interesting right now and I can't see Miranda standing out in that crowd.

[RozzySean]

I would give Pavlik a decent shot, but its hard to say cause he really hasn't been tested yet by a good fighter.

I guess the most likely outcome is that Miranda ends up being too strong for him, its not like either guy's that good defensively, and Pavlik might be getting too big for the weight, with the deal with him telling his corner in the last fight that he couldn't feel his legs, couldn't move well. Miranda seems sturdier although its hard to tell cause Pavlik hasn't been in with a big puncher.

But Miranda's very beatable, that wide sweeping lead left hook is gonna get him in trouble one of these days against a big puncher. I couldn't figure out why Green wouldn't try to time him with a right over it when Miranda was coming in, he's really open for the right hand.

That flaw would be Kelly Pavliks best chance. He has that sweet straight right, a better right than Green. Miranda put himself in far worse position throwing that hook than he does throwing the right, and if Pavlik could set him up and time him, he could make him pay. Still, I would have to pick Miranda. Don't think Pavlik could help but get dragging into trading, and I have no reason to think Pavlik has enough chin to stand up to Miranda's power. He might, but know one really knows. On the other hand, Miranda can take a punch, and we know he can win against top opponents.

[diamonddavestafford]

I don't blame the fight going the distance on a lack of power from Miranda. Green spent the whole fight running and holing, and in a 12 round fight, he would have KO'd Green. Green stayed on his feet after getting caught in round 1, but he from that point forward, he seemed scared to taste it again.

There are clearly flaws in Miranda's game, but I'm not sure Kelly Pavlik is the man to take advantage of them. I'm not sold on Pavlik yet. I'm not sure he's any better than Green. That being said, he may have better success with his straight fight against Miranda than Green had trying to ge off with his left. He'll have a reach advantage and he should be able to pop off some 1-2s. He would probably lead a little more.

thats what i think too. right now im takin miranda over pavlik, by KO. pavlik like green gets caught here and there with shots, tending to 'fall asleep' now and then...pavlik said himself sometimes he needs to get hit as a 'wake up call'. if miranda catches him clean, there will be no waking up.

[Bx730NY]

I think judging by last night that Pavlik will clearly OUT BOX Miranda. Also does Edison Miranda really have that HUGE POWER that everyone is claiming? I dont think so. Pavlik has way more boxing skills and Power Period. If the fight happens I got Pavlik by KO in the 4th.

Sorry to burst your bubble but Pavlik is too slow to keep Miranda off him and he's never had to deal with incoming like the type he would receive from Miranda.

[BrooklyniteQueen]

both Miranda and Green would beat Pavlik

[BrooklyniteQueen]

I would give Pavlik a decent shot, but its hard to say cause he really hasn't been tested yet by a good fighter.

I guess the most likely outcome is that Miranda ends up being too strong for him, its not like either guy's that good defensively, and Pavlik might be getting too big for the weight, with the deal with him telling his corner in the last fight that he couldn't feel his legs, couldn't move well. Miranda seems sturdier although its hard to tell cause Pavlik hasn't been in with a big puncher.

But Miranda's very beatable, that wide sweeping lead left hook is gonna get him in trouble one of these days against a big puncher. I couldn't figure out why Green wouldn't try to time him with a right over it when Miranda was coming in, he's really open for the right hand.

Because Miranda sets his hand so that you do throw a right hadn over that so he tries to beat you with his own right hand thats why he cocks it right after he jabs.

[CutMeMick]

Miranda stops Pavlik in the mid rounds.. 7 or 8 thats around the time Pavlik starts to slow down a bit and starts slapping his punches and they get wider and loopier....

When did Pavlik become this master boxer? Oh right,the same time Alan Green did. Make no mistake,Pantera is still learning but he has awesome power and Pavlik is NOT,I repeat NOT a great boxer.e's a great puncher,throws lots of leather but is as wiiiiiide open as Pantera. It would make for a great fight but Pantera has fought by far and away the better fighters and has still been winning,I'd favour Edison.

Very well said, I mean Green was suposse to be the gu to do this now all the Green fans droped him like a bad habit.....

[SweetPea]

I think Miranda KOs Pavlik.
And no, I'm not THAT impressed with Miranda, but I was impressed even less with Pavlik.
Pavlik would need to outbox Miranda, but the only problem is that Pavlik isn't that good of a boxer.

And as crappy as Taylor looked vs. Ouma, I still think he would beat Miranda handily.

[CutMeMick]

Oh! boy!!!

Can't wait for this Pavliks gonna get his a$$ kicked from pilar to post.....
Put me down for a Miranda mid-way TKO rd. 8......



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[Majesty]

Miranda wins TKO3

[CutMeMick]

Pavliks NEVER been in the ring against a prominent opponent, this will be Pavliks 1st REAL challenge IMO and he will get a wake up call.....

Mirandas been there hes faced the best and the rest.....

You know 'Pantera' really creating a HUGE following even if you don't like him you gotta give the kid a whole lotta credit for the sh*t! he been doing this kids got a machete in his hand and is literally cutting down anything thats in his way.....

YOu gotta applaud that kids got ball$, JT better watch out cause that video he made 'Pantera' really ment that sh*t! he wasn't jokin or putting on a show...

[Majesty]

Pavliks NEVER been in the ring against a prominent opponent, this will be Pavliks 1st REAL challenge IMO and he will get a wake up call.....

Mirandas been there hes faced the best and the rest.....

You know 'Pantera' really creating a HUGE following even if you don't like him you gotta give the kid a whole lotta credit for the sh*t! he been doing this kids got a machete in his hand and is literally cutting down anything thats in his way.....

YOu gotta applaud that kids got ball$, JT better watch out cause that video he made 'Pantera' really ment that sh*t! he wasn't jokin or putting on a show...

yeah, and Jermain Taylor(or rather Dibella talking for him) downplayed it.

I'm pretty sure Jermain being the competitor he is would love to fight Miranda. But Dibella makes sure it doesn't happen and keeps Jermain quiet cause Jermain never says no to him

[CutMeMick]

Pavliks NEVER been in the ring against a prominent opponent, this will be Pavliks 1st REAL challenge IMO and he will get a wake up call.....

Mirandas been there hes faced the best and the rest.....

You know 'Pantera' really creating a HUGE following even if you don't like him you gotta give the kid a whole lotta credit for the sh*t! he been doing this kids got a machete in his hand and is literally cutting down anything thats in his way.....

YOu gotta applaud that kids got ball$, JT better watch out cause that video he made 'Pantera' really ment that sh*t! he wasn't jokin or putting on a show...

yeah, and Jermain Taylor(or rather Dibella talking for him) downplayed it.

I'm pretty sure Jermain being the competitor he is would love to fight Miranda. But Dibella makes sure it doesn't happen and keeps Jermain quiet cause Jermain never says no to him

Well who knows really, I mean he was willing to put JT against B-Hop a second time he might just put JT in there and considering JT doesn't plan on being around for much longer he might just cash out with that fight......

[SigmaMu]

Pavliks NEVER been in the ring against a prominent opponent, this will be Pavliks 1st REAL challenge IMO and he will get a wake up call.....

Mirandas been there hes faced the best and the rest.....

You know 'Pantera' really creating a HUGE following even if you don't like him you gotta give the kid a whole lotta credit for the sh*t! he been doing this kids got a machete in his hand and is literally cutting down anything thats in his way.....

YOu gotta applaud that kids got ball$, JT better watch out cause that video he made 'Pantera' really ment that sh*t! he wasn't jokin or putting on a show...

yeah, and Jermain Taylor(or rather Dibella talking for him) downplayed it.

I'm pretty sure Jermain being the competitor he is would love to fight Miranda. But Dibella makes sure it doesn't happen and keeps Jermain quiet cause Jermain never says no to him

I agree. Jermain aint nothing but a parrot.
A stuttering parrot.