Why Hasnt Wlad Avenged His Losess

[ICB]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

he should of tried to of revenged them losses before he cant do it now its too late now and i think them losses will hurt his legacy like it would of done to lewis if he wouldnt have revenged losses

[Lance Uppercut]

Wlad is a great fighter, so long as he avoids a certain other type of fighter.

[Klitsfan]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

he should of tried to of revenged them losses before he cant do it now its too late now and i think them losses will hurt his legacy like it would of done to lewis if he wouldnt have revenged losses

What about Tyson and Buster Douglas?Holmes and Tyson?Mercer and Lewis?Foreman and Ali?Foreman and Young, is that what people remember, why didn't he get a rematch because that really hurts his legacy .Foreman and Holyfield?I could go on and on but I just don't see the point.Fighters lose sometimes, but when they go on and consistantly beat better fighters from then on I don't see why those loses would do anything to hurt their legacy.

[BoomBoom]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

he should of tried to of revenged them losses before he cant do it now its too late now and i think them losses will hurt his legacy like it would of done to lewis if he wouldnt have revenged losses

What about Tyson and Buster Douglas?Holmes and Tyson?Mercer and Lewis?Foreman and Ali?Foreman and Young, is that what people remember, why didn't he get a rematch because that really hurts his legacy .Foreman and Holyfield?I could go on and on but I just don't see the point.Fighters lose sometimes, but when they go on and consistantly beat better fighters from then on I don't see why those loses would do anything to hurt their legacy.

When you lose to another champion, youre right it doesnt hurt their legacy. But when you lose to a Corrie Sanders or a Ross Puritty its a little different imo. The guys you listed were all greats.

[ICB]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

he should of tried to of revenged them losses before he cant do it now its too late now and i think them losses will hurt his legacy like it would of done to lewis if he wouldnt have revenged losses

What about Tyson and Buster Douglas?Holmes and Tyson?Mercer and Lewis?Foreman and Ali?Foreman and Young, is that what people remember, why didn't he get a rematch because that really hurts his legacy .Foreman and Holyfield?I could go on and on but I just don't see the point.Fighters lose sometimes, but when they go on and consistantly beat better fighters from then on I don't see why those loses would do anything to hurt their legacy.

holmes was old and plus he was up against one of best hws in last 20 years no shame in that and douglas loss did hurt tysons legacy

mercer and lewis ??

foreman lost to greatest and gave great account of himself certainly no shame in that

foreman was 40s when he fought holyfield why should that hurt his legacy losing to great hw fighter in his prime when your 40+

foreman wernt at his best ali loss affected him and young was great counter puncher i mean he gave ali hell alot think he derserved decision also gave ken norton hell and had draw against shavers again no shame in losing to young just it was bad style match

but wlad losing to journyman ross purity plus brewster and sanders is totally different they were all bad loses and he is much better technical fighter than ross brewster and sanders and should of won but he was stopped in all of losses and im sorry that will hurt his legacy

[Klitsfan]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

he should of tried to of revenged them losses before he cant do it now its too late now and i think them losses will hurt his legacy like it would of done to lewis if he wouldnt have revenged losses

What about Tyson and Buster Douglas?Holmes and Tyson?Mercer and Lewis?Foreman and Ali?Foreman and Young, is that what people remember, why didn't he get a rematch because that really hurts his legacy .Foreman and Holyfield?I could go on and on but I just don't see the point.Fighters lose sometimes, but when they go on and consistantly beat better fighters from then on I don't see why those loses would do anything to hurt their legacy.

holmes was old and plus he was up against one of best hws in last 20 years no shame in that and douglas loss did hurt tysons legacy

mercer and lewis ??

foreman lost to greatest and gave great account of himself certainly no shame in that

foreman was 40s when he fought holyfield why should that hurt his legacy losing to great hw fighter in his prime when your 40+

foreman wernt at his best ali loss affected him and young was great counter puncher i mean he gave ali hell alot think he derserved decision also gave ken norton hell and had draw against shavers again no shame in losing to young just it was bad style match

but wlad losing to journyman ross purity plus brewster and sanders is totally different they were all bad loses and he is much better technical fighter than ross brewster and sanders and should of won but he was stopped in all of losses and im sorry that will hurt his legacy

So if Wladimir beats every top fighter out there and continues to win until he retires, he wont be considered great, like Lewis because he lost 3 fights?

And as far as Foreman not fighting Young again it is the same as Wladimir not fighting Brewster but in the Brewster fight Wladimir didn't lose because what Brewster did it was Wladimir running out of energy that is why I don't think Wladimir really believes he has to prove anything by fighting him again, the same with Puritty.Sanders was out of the picture anyway when Vitali beat him within the year.

[p4pking]

I think many people have already brought up the key points... It would have helped his legacy, if he had sought rematches soon after his defeats... Now, Im not really sure, simply because none of the three fighters who beat him are what they were then.... And they were never all that.. I think now the best he can do, and what he should look to do, is fight the most recognized threats he can, if not unify the belts. He should be able to redeem himself considerably if he continues to perform well... However, when he fights people like Ray Austin it really doesn't do much to shift peoples thoughts from his losses.. I understand it was a mandatory, but he should definetly look for a big fight very soon... THat wasn't even a tune up on saturday, Austin was a joke. I guess is either Sanders or Brewster can make an impressive return to the ring they would be big fights for Wlad to take, and meaningful ones as well. Until then, he'd be better off looking to get Peter again, or go after Valuev, Briggs, etc.

[Klitsfan]

dr SoftChin can't beat brewster and he knows it himself that's why he doesn't bother to ask for a rematch.. he might beat granpa sanders but that's not so sure either, so best he can do is to protect his glasschin and fight bums from now on...

Not even worth a reply.

[Klitsfan]

I think many people have already brought up the key points... It would have helped his legacy, if he had sought rematches soon after his defeats... Now, Im not really sure, simply because none of the three fighters who beat him are what they were then.... And they were never all that.. I think now the best he can do, and what he should look to do, is fight the most recognized threats he can, if not unify the belts. He should be able to redeem himself considerably if he continues to perform well... However, when he fights people like Ray Austin it really doesn't do much to shift peoples thoughts from his losses.. I understand it was a mandatory, but he should definetly look for a big fight very soon... THat wasn't even a tune up on saturday, Austin was a joke. I guess is either Sanders or Brewster can make an impressive return to the ring they would be big fights for Wlad to take, and meaningful ones as well. Until then, he'd be better off looking to get Peter again, or go after Valuev, Briggs, etc.

I agree with what you are saying.I don't know why people even bring it up at this point.They are both out of the title picture for now so it doesn't make any sense to even bring up something that in all likelyhood will never happen unless Sanders some how makes his way back up the ladder to be a manditory for Wladimir, the same with Brewster.

[USA LOVES THE KLITSCHKOS]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

Hasim Rahman should have retired after he ko'd lewis.

[p4pking]

No offence this is a silly thread with even sillier answer, am gona give fact and proof.
First of all why the hell should Wladimir fight these bum when he the best by million of miles in the division and these fighter who were lucky to beat him are not even ranked in a position to get a shot a the worst title holder.
Lennox had to fight Hasim Rahman to get his title back also he had to fight mccall for the vacant wbc title, but mccall just walked about but would have ko lewis if just threw 1 punch if u watch wladimir and austin fight lennox as a Hbo commentator mention that when mccall knock him out, lennox say he never even saw the punch and i've never heard any such thing like mccall a fast puncher.
But anyway ross purity refused to fight wlad in those day and then got a whoooping from Vitali also Corrie sanders refused to fight wlad again and the only reason got a shot at the title against vitali because dumb a**** thought if he can beat wlad then beat vitali, but the soo called expert of boxing forgot about sander being lucky against wlad.
Apart from this I can give u proof of Wladimir actually going to fight Lamon brewster last year just few weeks before Wladimir destroyed Chris bryd, the video of this is on AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com
Chris byrd who is the cousin of lamon brewster acually say that Lamon brewster pulled out of this fight because of me, because chris byrd wanted his revenge, if you don't believe me you can check this on the website of AUTO MESSAGE: SORRY THIS SITE NAME AND ANY CONTENT FROM IT IS BANNED FROM THIS FORUM PLEASE DELETE.com and it is on the last page of the video. But anyway we all now y brewster really pulled out, to save his a***
So anyway if u don't know anyhing about boxing then u really shouldn't make ur own stuff up, lennox and actually even million times better champ have lost lost soo many fights in their amateur career and never revenged them so that gona hate their legacy too.
please do not compare wlad and lewis wlad maybe only 30 and lennnox retired at 38 but lennox only has had 44 fights and wlad has had 51 fights and emanuel steward has said he want wladimir to have atleast 24 more fights before he retired, come on did lennox beat ray mercer or vitali, that would have him with 4 losses and if lennox gave vitali a rematch then would have 5 losses and after that vitali would have destroyed lennox so badly that lennox could not ever beat any fighter so the bottom line is by the time lewis would have 51 fights he would have atleast 9 losses also lennox started boxing at 12 and wlad started at 14 and if lennox ever fought as much as amateur or pro fight as wlad did then lennox would have retired before becoming world champion because his body would have been over worked and over trained but wlad has much better genetic as u can see.
But am not gona reply to any of your comment since ur the student and am ur teacher and i really don't care if ive made spelling mistake cos u are puzzled ppl anyway but lennox never reply to riddick bowe as riddick bowe has been calling lennox out to fight him just recently.
so y shud i reply back to u kids

Wonder how long this knob will be around

[sinan]

Because Vlad suffers from a common condition called vaginosis. It flares up every time he gets KTFO.

[Gandalf]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

It isnt just about fighting for the belts though. If you lose devastatingly then you should try to prove the doubters wrong by avenging your losses. The belts are irrelevant here. Wlad had the time and opportunity to avenge those defeats but has chosen to walk a different path. Those losses are ammunition to any who want to attack Wlads legacy. And they will.

I think he could very well have beaten all 3 who have beaten him at his best...It is a shame he didnt even try though...

[Klitsfan]

I don't know why he should have to?I could understand if he was the undisputed heavyweight champ like Lennox Lewis was when Rahman beat him, of course he wanted a rematch because he had all the belts!And as far as McCall it was 3 years later that he finally went after him and that was because it was for the vacant WBC belt.Why would Wladimir at this point go after Sanders and Brewster , neither of them have a belt and that is his goal right now and that is what everyone wants isn't it?

It isnt just about fighting for the belts though. If you lose devastatingly then you should try to prove the doubters wrong by avenging your losses. The belts are irrelevant here. Wlad had the time and opportunity to avenge those defeats but has chosen to walk a different path. Those losses are ammunition to any who want to attack Wlads legacy. And they will.

I think he could very well have beaten all 3 who have beaten him at his best...It is a shame he didnt even try though...

Like I said before, when Wladimir was beaten by Brewster it wasn't because Brewster is such a great fighter it is because he has a hard head and lasted until Wladimir wore himself out punching a heavybag.The same case in the Puritty fight.When Sanders beat him it was because of a punch and was totallt legitimate, but Vitali was the next to fight Sanders and basically knocked him out of the picture.Wladimr was smart to take some tune up fights after that loss but then lost to Brewster.The opportunity never presented itself after that.There is so much more to it than just wanting to avenge loses such as politics.I could care less if he fought Sanders and Brewster again.I never thought anything less of Tyson for not fighting Douglas after he was KO'd by him, the same goes for Foreman not fighting Young after that loss.Anyone who want's to rate Wladimir's legacy on those loses are just looking for some reason to discredit him.Look where he is and look where Sanders,Puritty and Brewster are.Enough said.

[El Kabong]

Well the reasons why Wladimir hasn't rematched Brewster or Sanders or Purrity are as follows:

The division changed a lot after those losses, Sanders took advantage of his newfound fame and made money vs Vitali trying to become the next big champion and after that loss Corrie retired making a rematch with him pretty much unmakeable but now he's back and once he proves he can still fight a rematch can be made.

With Brewster, Wladimir took a 6 month layoff and Lamon had to fight right away vs Kali Meehan ( I think he was a mandatory) and then Don King threw Andrew Golota a bone after he got screwed 2 times vs Ruiz and Byrd. Meanwhile Wladimir got a bad cut in a tough fight vs Williamson and then really got back on track vs Sam Peter after a fight vs Castillo. Wlad was well on his way to a rematch with Lamon Brewster when Lamon got a detatched retina vs Sergei Lyakhovich and hasn't fought since then making a rematch impossible to make.

Purrity was just a youthful mistake....nothing too terribly bad. He could have fought Purrity instead of Austin, the result would be about the same.


sinan name a fighter out there right now who has gone back and avenged his losses....Briggs nope...Rahman nope.....Maskaev? nope....Sam Peter nope...John Ruiz nope.

Wlad is held to a higher standard because he a better fighter than everyone else out there