Judo or Jui Jitsu

[Munkymagic]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

There was. His name was Scott Morris and he got his ass handed to him in the biggest way possible by Pat Smith (average kickboxer) in UFC2. brutal mount and elbow KO

[Von Milash]

lol. cc.

[Von Milash]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

they showed that ninja on fight science and him hitting the chest of the test dummy with his dim mak. he hit it with the side of his fist. what a joke, just like so many other martial arts, esp karate and kung fu.

but at least he can stab someone or hide in bushes.. both skills that are massively practical on the street and in the ufc.

[Von Milash]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

There was. His name was Scott Morris and he got his ass handed to him in the biggest way possible by Pat Smith (average kickboxer) in UFC2. brutal mount and elbow KO

hey munk, you got a vid of that fight? they say it's the most brutal fight/ko in UFC history. so much for ninjutsu.

or should we call it ninjokesu?

[Munkymagic]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

There was. His name was Scott Morris and he got his a** handed to him in the biggest way possible by Pat Smith (average kickboxer) in UFC2. brutal mount and elbow KO

hey munk, you got a vid of that fight? they say it's the most brutal fight/ko in UFC history. so much for ninjutsu.

or should we call it ninjokesu?

Yeah it was pretty nasty. Ive got it on VHS but havent searched for it online. Will get back to you.

[Von Milash]

cheers. another cc tomorrow! This is getting old lol.

Another brutal ko was.. I believe, another very early ufc when gary goodridge had that dude in God knows what.. he had his arms locked like Hughes had penn a few months ago...and he was just elbowing the snot out of the poor guy. Normally I wouldn't say poor, but this guy was getting toasted. I thought he was going to die he took so many elbows.

[babyboNe]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

There was. His name was Scott Morris and he got his a** handed to him in the biggest way possible by Pat Smith (average kickboxer) in UFC2. brutal mount and elbow KO

Scott Morris is a joke, ninjutsu is NOT.

thats what happens when other race trys to copy a style that belongs to one breed only. he can buy his black belt but no matter what, he knows no ninjutsu.

that guy is a embarrASSment, he wasn't a ninjutsu. he was a fruad.

[Munkymagic]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

There was. His name was Scott Morris and he got his a** handed to him in the biggest way possible by Pat Smith (average kickboxer) in UFC2. brutal mount and elbow KO

Scott Morris is a joke, ninjutsu is NOT.

thats what happens when other race trys to copy a style that belongs to one breed only. he can buy his black belt but no matter what, he knows no ninjutsu.

that guy is a embarrASSment, he wasn't a ninjutsu. he was a fruad.

Do you practice ninjutsu? What form...is it Bujinkan? or maybe genbukan? Am interested to know your ninjutsu.

Don't get me wrong i am not in to art bashing. I dont profess to be a ninjutsu expert. Am just interested to know more about it.

[Munkymagic]

i've been saying it for years here,

NINJUTSU is the ultimate fighting style. look it up bRo,

if there is a ninjutsu fighter in any mma fight, he'd be legendary.

There was. His name was Scott Morris and he got his a** handed to him in the biggest way possible by Pat Smith (average kickboxer) in UFC2. brutal mount and elbow KO

hey munk, you got a vid of that fight? they say it's the most brutal fight/ko in UFC history. so much for ninjutsu.

or should we call it ninjokesu?

Here's the KO. He got pretty much owned from the outset.

[youtube=425,350]3KSz9IRrM[/youtube]

[Von Milash]

cc, for trying, but she isn't working.

[Munkymagic]

Here's the direct link to youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-3KSz9IRrM

[Von Milash]

yeah, have seen that beofre but thanks for posting. At least I know the one you're talking about!

it just goes to show you how impractical most of those highly regarded ancient martial arts are when you have someone actually fighting back and punching you in the face. All that kung fu and karate chop "hi-ya" horseshit goes down the drain in a hurry. Only a few "traditional" martial arts are even worth talking about. "Block with your forearm when someone attempts to strike you"....useless...save it for the mcdojo idiots.

[babyboNe]

yeah, have seen that beofre but thanks for posting. At least I know the one you're talking about!

it just goes to show you how impractical most of those highly regarded ancient martial arts are when you have someone actually fighting back and punching you in the face. All that kung fu and karate chop "hi-ya" horseshit goes down the drain in a hurry. Only a few "traditional" martial arts are even worth talking about. "Block with your forearm when someone attempts to strike you"....useless...save it for the mcdojo idiots.

your talking out your a$s, you don't know what your saying.


REAL ninjutsu don't look nothing like that clown Scott Morris, thats when fruads trys to imitate the art.

believe me ninjutsu don't say "hi-ya"

actually not only does ninjutsu had someone trying to punch them in the face, they had swords coming at them and other kinds of weapons from samurias.

you can talk about other art being all about just forms, but ninjutsu actually went to war. all those other art, has been kept inside a dojo or in a competition event. the art of ninjutsu was use in war.

ninjutsu is complete its the GODFATHER of art, brazillian jujutsu and the gracies and other arts and other clan worldwide are B@stard offsprings of Ninjutsu. but noun will be as complete as ninjutsu. in a competition event these other forms may look good,but they come short of true knowledge of dominance. because when it counts the most and that is when your life is on the line....ultimately ninjutsu are killers. thats why ninjutsu dojos are band.

[Von Milash]

yeah, have seen that beofre but thanks for posting. At least I know the one you're talking about!

it just goes to show you how impractical most of those highly regarded ancient martial arts are when you have someone actually fighting back and punching you in the face. All that kung fu and karate chop "hi-ya" horseshit goes down the drain in a hurry. Only a few "traditional" martial arts are even worth talking about. "Block with your forearm when someone attempts to strike you"....useless...save it for the mcdojo idiots.

your talking out your a$s, you don't know what your saying.


REAL ninjutsu don't look nothing like that clown Scott Morris, thats when fruads trys to imitate the art.

believe me ninjutsu don't say "hi-ya"

actually not only does ninjutsu had someone trying to punch them in the face, they had swords coming at them and other kinds of weapons from samurias.

you can talk about other art being all about just forms, but ninjutsu actually went to war. all those other art, has been kept inside a dojo or in a competition event. the art of ninjutsu was use in war.

ninjutsu is complete its the GODFATHER of art, brazillian jujutsu and the gracies and other arts and other clan worldwide are B@stard offsprings of Ninjutsu. but noun will be as complete as ninjutsu. in a competition event these other forms may look good,but they come short of true knowledge of dominance. because when it counts the most and that is when your life is on the line....ultimately ninjutsu are killers. thats why ninjutsu dojos are band.

Ninjas were assassins. They used swords. So by today's standards they're outdated. modern day spies, assassins and soldiers don't resort to swords and chinese stars. And if that's the case, it certainly has no place in sport, including mma. so you saying that a ninja would dominate the UFC is assinine too because they weren't that type of fighter, right?

I just love it when a martial arts guy has to come to the aid of their art by saying that it's intended to kill. whatever. I neve took one lesson but I guarantee that I could slit someone's throad if I snuck on on them. But is that possible in the UFC? Is it practical on the street?

I'm not getting into with you. Think what you want.

[Munkymagic]

yeah, have seen that beofre but thanks for posting. At least I know the one you're talking about!

it just goes to show you how impractical most of those highly regarded ancient martial arts are when you have someone actually fighting back and punching you in the face. All that kung fu and karate chop "hi-ya" horseshit goes down the drain in a hurry. Only a few "traditional" martial arts are even worth talking about. "Block with your forearm when someone attempts to strike you"....useless...save it for the mcdojo idiots.

your talking out your a$s, you don't know what your saying.


REAL ninjutsu don't look nothing like that clown Scott Morris, thats when fruads trys to imitate the art.

believe me ninjutsu don't say "hi-ya"

actually not only does ninjutsu had someone trying to punch them in the face, they had swords coming at them and other kinds of weapons from samurias.

you can talk about other art being all about just forms, but ninjutsu actually went to war. all those other art, has been kept inside a dojo or in a competition event. the art of ninjutsu was use in war.

ninjutsu is complete its the GODFATHER of art, brazillian jujutsu and the gracies and other arts and other clan worldwide are B@stard offsprings of Ninjutsu. but noun will be as complete as ninjutsu. in a competition event these other forms may look good,but they come short of true knowledge of dominance. because when it counts the most and that is when your life is on the line....ultimately ninjutsu are killers. thats why ninjutsu dojos are band.

So i presume making these claims you study a style of the art and are quite proficient in it? None of these claims are based on reading stuff i hope.

Can you answer my question to you then? About which style you study. Bujinkan,genbukan or maybe another form which i'm not familiar with.

I would like to have an argument put forward other than "it was taken to war", lots of things were taken to war. Taekwondo is the art of the korean army. Jui Jitsu is the art of the samurai, military combatives were developed during the world wars for unarmed combat in the face of the enemy. I'd like to know your views on the techniques and which ones you think will work best when faced with a fully resisting, 200lb opponent that wants to tap dance on your head. If it was that good a martial art it would have been explored a bit more fully by now and used more extensively.

Do you know Brian McArthy? If you don't know him then i would suggest you don't know an awful lot of what you are talking about.

edit: *actually come to think of it you are American so chances are you might not have heard of him*

if you do then i take it all back and i am all ears to your argument being reinforced that Ninjutsu is the be all and end all of reality fighting systems.

As i said, I am not art knocking, thats not my thing. I think there is something positive to be taken from every martial art. 9 times out of 10 anyway its not the art but the teacher.

Over to you