Ricky Hatton

[Fenster]

I don't believe Ricky can beat any TOP guys (Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely) at 147 so whats the point in making the fights?

He's not getting any better (on the slide if anything) and after he's beaten Castillo (hopefully) he'll have two GREATS on his unbeaten resume and his place in Brtish boxing history is firmly set (is already).

The MEGA fights at 147 will only happen if Hatton gets MEGA money. Making the inevitable defeat worthwhile.

[Tam Seddon]

I don't see how he beats any top guys above 140 so whats the point in making the fights?

Does he need to take risks? Think he's already had a brilliant career, made plenty of dough with plenty more to come if the right fights are made.

Fenster do you not believe in or boy Ricky no more? His carrer ending will be made of boring 140 fights and what to do you want to see? him staying undeafted at 140 and not risk take or going to 147 and risk take and make exciting match up's? i know what i prefer!

i like hatton but there will be doubters and rightfully so i mean collazo fight he only scrapped by decision by 1 point on my card then his next opponent he was doing really well then i cant remember exactly what round but he was hurt from body shot and then held on for most of the fight after that so yes will be doubters

and i dont think hatton will be too keen to get back to 147 after trouble he had with collazo

ICB you have to think that in terms of lagacy and wanting to prove he is one of the best British fighters, he needs those 147 fights and im not trying to LC down but he underestimated him and only had 6 weeks prep. were as for LC it was the biggest fight of his life etc, I know Hatton would never make that mistake again though!

im not saying he shouldnt move up to 147 but im thinking about hattons confidence going back to 147 after collazo fight yes say what you want but still he did struggle and only just about got the decision i dont know if hatton can beat top boys at 147 like mayweather cotto and mosley

But that is my point, he may not be able to beat them but it would atleast show he has balls in moving up to fight the tougher guns except for these 140 bums! which they are indeed and dont push Hattons legacy anywere. I think the last time Hatton was doubted against KT look what happend there! he suits being the underdog.

[jbirdy]

both cotto and hatton have really got their hands full with judah and castillo but if they both win it would be awesome to set up a clash for around crimbo time. hatton has had some awkward fighters to look good against since KT but with castillo being more conventional as he's a come forward orthodox fighter i can really see hatton shining.
i think cotto probably still doesnt find it easy to make 147 so i cant see him goin down any less to meet hatton as a catch weight so the advantage would go straight to cotto for that. but if hatton sorts out his stamina problems then he has the style that will give cotto all kinds of problems. cotto likes to dictate his own pace and steal a lot more little breathers than ricky does so i could see hatton out working him.
but as ricky wants the big fights he knows himself that he will have to go up to 147 because after JLC there isnt really much down at light welter except a rematch with JLC if he loses ( i dont think he will).

I don't see how he beats any top guys above 140 so whats the point in making the fights?

Does he need to take risks? Think he's already had a brilliant career, made plenty of dough with plenty more to come if the right fights are made.

Fenster do you not believe in or boy Ricky no more? His carrer ending will be made of boring 140 fights and what to do you want to see? him staying undeafted at 140 and not risk take or going to 147 and risk take and make exciting match up's? i know what i prefer!

i definately agree with ya tam. ricky is a risk taker himself and who cares if he loses his undefeated record as long as he takes the chances and fights the best.

[Tam Seddon]

I don't believe Ricky can beat any TOP guys (Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely) at 147 so whats the point in making the fights?

He's not getting any better (on the slide if anything) and after he's beaten Castillo (hopefully) he'll have two GREATS on his unbeaten resume and his place in Brtish boxing is firmly set (is already).

The MEGA fights at 147 will only happen if Hatton gets MEGA money. Making the inevitable defeat worthwhile.

When people doubt Ricky this gives him the ensentive to try and prove them wrong and fight at 147 will surely show that! I would prefer him to go to 147 and take the big boys instead of fighting at 140! in your opinion would you not like to see him have an enjoyable fight against cotto or a bore fest agasint a 140 figher ?

[Tam Seddon]

If you want Ricky to stay at 140 make a list of 5 Quality!!!! fighters he could fight? and compare that with 5 147 fighter and you tell me you want him to stay at 140 is just plain crazy.

[Fenster]

I don't believe Ricky can beat any TOP guys (Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely) at 147 so whats the point in making the fights?

He's not getting any better (on the slide if anything) and after he's beaten Castillo (hopefully) he'll have two GREATS on his unbeaten resume and his place in Brtish boxing is firmly set (is already).

The MEGA fights at 147 will only happen if Hatton gets MEGA money. Making the inevitable defeat worthwhile.

When people doubt Ricky this gives him the ensentive to try and prove them wrong and fight at 147 will surely show that! I would prefer him to go to 147 and take the big boys instead of fighting at 140! in your opinion would you not like to see him have an enjoyable fight against cotto or a bore fest agasint a 140 figher ?

I'm not arguing what I want. I'd LOVE to see Ricky fight Cotto or Mayweather but I feel his chances of beating those guys are long gone and not coming back.

Hattons got huge balls, for sure, but he's not stupid. He tried 147 and it was a mistake. He now says he never had any intentions of moving to 147 but thats how it played out at the time. So I don't think these fights will happen now.

At 140 he has WITTER!!!! This fight NEEDS to happen.

[Tam Seddon]

I don't believe Ricky can beat any TOP guys (Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely) at 147 so whats the point in making the fights?

He's not getting any better (on the slide if anything) and after he's beaten Castillo (hopefully) he'll have two GREATS on his unbeaten resume and his place in Brtish boxing is firmly set (is already).

The MEGA fights at 147 will only happen if Hatton gets MEGA money. Making the inevitable defeat worthwhile.

When people doubt Ricky this gives him the ensentive to try and prove them wrong and fight at 147 will surely show that! I would prefer him to go to 147 and take the big boys instead of fighting at 140! in your opinion would you not like to see him have an enjoyable fight against cotto or a bore fest agasint a 140 figher ?

I'm not arguing what I want. I'd LOVE to see Ricky fight Cotto or Mayweather but I feel his chances of beating those guys are long gone and not coming back.

Hattons got huge balls, for sure, but he's not stupid. He tried 147 and it was a mistake. He now says he never had any intentions of moving to 147 but thats how it played out at the time. So I don't think these fights will happen now.

At 140 he has WITTER!!!! This fight NEEDS to happen.

come on Witter is really going to push Hattons carrer forward? It wont prove shit, imo. I think Ricky made mistakes going to 147 the first time because he underestimated LC and by doing that he wasnt fully focoused. He had 6 weeks training and he had never ever been at 147 before, it was on amercian soil and he had never experienced anything like that. I think if he stayed at 147 took on the bum that Cotto beat he would gain confidence in becoming the man at 147. I know he did the wrong thing going to 140 because at the end of the day he did beat LC right? Styles makes fights and i think that could have been a case as well, but i think the style of Cotto and Hatton will mix into an awesome contest and if Ricky wants to go further in life he needs this fight!

[SweetPea]

B*llshit as Cotto is still untested.
Who has he fought that is so good...Please tell us.
Agree 100% Tam that he must go up and after Cotto or even Judah.

It's not BS.
Cotto is bigger and stronger than Hatton, with more punching power.
Ricky would be the shorter fighter and would have the shorter reach. Which means he would have to fight on the inside against a fighter with more firepower.
Winning a fight is all about having advantages.
Against Cotto, Hatton does not have a height advantage, he does not have a reach advantage, he does not have a power advantage, and I also don't see Hatton having any major advantage in speed or pure boxing ability.
And it's not just Cotto. Hatton doesn't have the weapons to beat a talented, natural welterweight. I can't see Hatton defeating Judah, let alone Mayweather or Cotto.
Why do you think Hatton ran back to 140 after only one fight at 147?? There's much more money to be made at 147 than 140. He left 147 because he realized he was in over his head.

As someone said before in the thread, if Hatton moves up to 147 to face Floyd or Cotto, it will be because he was offered so much money, that he couldn't refuse. And more power to him if that's what happens, these guys should try to make as much money as they can.

[Tam Seddon]

You can talk about the advanteges and how the are stacked against Hatton and dont get me wrong I believe Cotto does have the upper hand, but does that take away the exciment factor? I would love to see Cotto-Hatton because i know Ricky is fighting him to show us he is the best and you cant take that away from him! Everyone was against Hatton against KT and look what he did to him

[SweetPea]

You can talk about the advanteges and how the are stacked against Hatton and dont get me wrong I believe Cotto does have the upper hand, but does that take away the exciment factor? I would love to see Cotto-Hatton because i know Ricky is fighting him to show us he is the best and you cant take that away from him! Everyone was against Hatton against KT and look what he did to him

No, it definitely doesn't take away the excitement factor. I never said that Hatton at 147 against Mayweather or Cotto wouldn't be exciting. I think it would. I would gladly pay the PPV fee to watch either one of those fights.
I just think Hatton would end up taking quite a beating against either one of those guys.

[Tam Seddon]

You can talk about the advanteges and how the are stacked against Hatton and dont get me wrong I believe Cotto does have the upper hand, but does that take away the exciment factor? I would love to see Cotto-Hatton because i know Ricky is fighting him to show us he is the best and you cant take that away from him! Everyone was against Hatton against KT and look what he did to him

No, it definitely doesn't take away the excitement factor. I never said that Hatton at 147 against Mayweather or Cotto wouldn't be exciting. I think it would. I would gladly pay the PPV fee to watch either one of those fights.
I just think Hatton would end up taking quite a beating against either one of those guys.

I think the Floyd fight would not happen being honest and i do think floyd would beat Ricky. I truely believe Floyd would beat anyone at 147. But I think the Cotto fight at 147 would be an amazing match up!!! I dont understand why you think he would get beaten up? Hatton is a warrior and so is Cotto and i think it could go either way, but i know that Ricky would take the approach of the underdog which is rightly so and i really think it would push him like we have never seen before and i can see a Hatton win here for sure.

[Fenster]

I don't believe Ricky can beat any TOP guys (Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely) at 147 so whats the point in making the fights?

He's not getting any better (on the slide if anything) and after he's beaten Castillo (hopefully) he'll have two GREATS on his unbeaten resume and his place in Brtish boxing is firmly set (is already).

The MEGA fights at 147 will only happen if Hatton gets MEGA money. Making the inevitable defeat worthwhile.

When people doubt Ricky this gives him the ensentive to try and prove them wrong and fight at 147 will surely show that! I would prefer him to go to 147 and take the big boys instead of fighting at 140! in your opinion would you not like to see him have an enjoyable fight against cotto or a bore fest agasint a 140 figher ?

I'm not arguing what I want. I'd LOVE to see Ricky fight Cotto or Mayweather but I feel his chances of beating those guys are long gone and not coming back.

Hattons got huge balls, for sure, but he's not stupid. He tried 147 and it was a mistake. He now says he never had any intentions of moving to 147 but thats how it played out at the time. So I don't think these fights will happen now.

At 140 he has WITTER!!!! This fight NEEDS to happen.

come on Witter is really going to push Hattons carrer forward? It wont prove shit, imo. I think Ricky made mistakes going to 147 the first time because he underestimated LC and by doing that he wasnt fully focoused. He had 6 weeks training and he had never ever been at 147 before, it was on amercian soil and he had never experienced anything like that. I think if he stayed at 147 took on the bum that Cotto beat he would gain confidence in becoming the man at 147. I know he did the wrong thing going to 140 because at the end of the day he did beat LC right? Styles makes fights and i think that could have been a case as well, but i think the style of Cotto and Hatton will mix into an awesome contest and if Ricky wants to go further in life he needs this fight!

Witter's a British fans fight that's been lingering for half-a-dozen years or so. They're now both TOP guys at 140. It makes sense to everyone bar Hatton and his most ardent fans, strangely.

Put it this way, I gaurantee should Hatton beat Castillo his next opponent (bet he doesn't even fight again this year, there's a lot of dining out to be done on the back of that victory) certainly wont be no star name. He's due a fight in Britain too.

Also you have to remember Ricky HAS already made it to the TOP of the tree. He's had a brilliant career. And said on many occasions he's acheived more than he could of ever dreamed.

[Tam Seddon]

I don't believe Ricky can beat any TOP guys (Cotto, Mayweather, Mosely) at 147 so whats the point in making the fights?

He's not getting any better (on the slide if anything) and after he's beaten Castillo (hopefully) he'll have two GREATS on his unbeaten resume and his place in Brtish boxing is firmly set (is already).

The MEGA fights at 147 will only happen if Hatton gets MEGA money. Making the inevitable defeat worthwhile.

When people doubt Ricky this gives him the ensentive to try and prove them wrong and fight at 147 will surely show that! I would prefer him to go to 147 and take the big boys instead of fighting at 140! in your opinion would you not like to see him have an enjoyable fight against cotto or a bore fest agasint a 140 figher ?

I'm not arguing what I want. I'd LOVE to see Ricky fight Cotto or Mayweather but I feel his chances of beating those guys are long gone and not coming back.

Hattons got huge balls, for sure, but he's not stupid. He tried 147 and it was a mistake. He now says he never had any intentions of moving to 147 but thats how it played out at the time. So I don't think these fights will happen now.

At 140 he has WITTER!!!! This fight NEEDS to happen.

come on Witter is really going to push Hattons carrer forward? It wont prove S***, imo. I think Ricky made mistakes going to 147 the first time because he underestimated LC and by doing that he wasnt fully focoused. He had 6 weeks training and he had never ever been at 147 before, it was on amercian soil and he had never experienced anything like that. I think if he stayed at 147 took on the bum that Cotto beat he would gain confidence in becoming the man at 147. I know he did the wrong thing going to 140 because at the end of the day he did beat LC right? Styles makes fights and i think that could have been a case as well, but i think the style of Cotto and Hatton will mix into an awesome contest and if Ricky wants to go further in life he needs this fight!

Witter's a British fans fight that's been lingering for half-a-dozen years or so. They're now both TOP guys at 140. It makes sense to everyone bar Hatton and his most ardent fans, strangely.

Put it this way, I gaurantee should Hatton beat Castillo his next opponent (bet he doesn't even fight again this year, there's a lot of dining out to be done on the back of that victory) certainly wont be no star name. He's due a fight in Britain too.

Also you have to remember Ricky HAS already made it to the TOP of the tree. He's had a brilliant career. And said on many occasions he's acheived more than he could of ever dreamed.

Dont get me wrong Hatton has done well to get were he is but i just dont see why he isnt capable of going even further? Hatton-Cotto would be an amazing match up and i like the sound of Hatton-Cotto a lot more than Hatton-Witter. I just think Hatton is capable of pulling of the win and he can go even further imo.

[Swashbuckling Gordy]

I wouldn't be so sure that Hatton -Cotto is a foregone conclusion !

Cotto got badly Rocked against Corley ,Bailey and was down and almost out twice against Torres he is vulnerable to short punches on the inside , he can be hurt !!

Hatton seems to be standing still in many peoples eyes .

But remember Morrales after the Gutsy Espadas fight , Barrera after Jones , Mosely after the Forrest loss? I remember so called experts swearing blind that Morrale was shot , Barrera was 4-1 against in the 1st Morrales fight and considered completely gone and Mosely didnt win for 4 fights after Adrian Stone .

Cotto was going through the same thing as Hatton is now he is not the 1st and wont be the last to be questioned it happens to all fans favourites with combative styles,Rickycan adapt .

[Fenster]

I understand what you're saying, Tam. Everyone has their limits though.

I like the sound of Hatton-Cotto more than Hatton-Witter too. But I like the sound of Hatton-Witter a hell of a lot more than Hatton-vs-No-name. Which I suspect will come after Castillo.