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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    Floyd might have better all around skill than Shane...but Shane definitely has more power. I really feel Floyd was already stretching his frame and power too much at 147...now he is going up to 154. What will happen if Oscar walks through his punches? Because Oscar has a great chin to go along with his big power...his room for error is bit larger than Floyd's. Floyd has to be ultra careful the entire fight...because one punch can potentially end his night...and he doesn't have the power to keep Oscar off of him. Sure he has the speed...but someone of Oscar's skill and intelligence will eventually catch him and force him to go toe to toe. I think Floyd is really banking on the hope that his speed will keep Oscar off of him for the first part of the fight and that Oscar's age will show up at the end of the fight. But if Oscar comes into this fight in great shape and is sharp, which he look like he will, Floyd will have to fight the perfect fight to win.
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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    Floyd might have better all around skill than Shane...but Shane definitely has more power. I really feel Floyd was already stretching his frame and power too much at 147...now he is going up to 154. What will happen if Oscar walks through his punches? Because Oscar has a great chin to go along with his big power...his room for error is bit larger than Floyd's. Floyd has to be ultra careful the entire fight...because one punch can potentially end his night...and he doesn't have the power to keep Oscar off of him. Sure he has the speed...but someone of Oscar's skill and intelligence will eventually catch him and force him to go toe to toe. I think Floyd is really banking on the hope that his speed will keep Oscar off of him for the first part of the fight and that Oscar's age will show up at the end of the fight. But if Oscar comes into this fight in great shape and is sharp, which he look like he will, Floyd will have to fight the perfect fight to win.
    CC #44 bro!!! A good big man will always beat a good little man....

    We shall see Ragu....

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    I don't think he will dominate Floyd yes he looked good against Mayorga but then so did Tito in his comeback but then Winky outboxed easy over 12 but against Sturm and Hopkins i thought Oscar looked awful and i think Sturm was robbed Mayorga made Oscar look as though he was back i don't believe it and im a fan of his i think Floyd easily out boxes him for a UD

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    Floyd might have better all around skill than Shane...but Shane definitely has more power. I really feel Floyd was already stretching his frame and power too much at 147...now he is going up to 154. What will happen if Oscar walks through his punches? Because Oscar has a great chin to go along with his big power...his room for error is bit larger than Floyd's. Floyd has to be ultra careful the entire fight...because one punch can potentially end his night...and he doesn't have the power to keep Oscar off of him. Sure he has the speed...but someone of Oscar's skill and intelligence will eventually catch him and force him to go toe to toe. I think Floyd is really banking on the hope that his speed will keep Oscar off of him for the first part of the fight and that Oscar's age will show up at the end of the fight. But if Oscar comes into this fight in great shape and is sharp, which he look like he will, Floyd will have to fight the perfect fight to win.
    CC #44 bro!!! A good big man will always beat a good little man....

    We shall see Ragu....
    I've got my outs.. if PBF makes the weight he will become a "big man" as well.... still think Oscar takes this one though...but I've got the out..
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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by THE Bigragu
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    Floyd might have better all around skill than Shane...but Shane definitely has more power. I really feel Floyd was already stretching his frame and power too much at 147...now he is going up to 154. What will happen if Oscar walks through his punches? Because Oscar has a great chin to go along with his big power...his room for error is bit larger than Floyd's. Floyd has to be ultra careful the entire fight...because one punch can potentially end his night...and he doesn't have the power to keep Oscar off of him. Sure he has the speed...but someone of Oscar's skill and intelligence will eventually catch him and force him to go toe to toe. I think Floyd is really banking on the hope that his speed will keep Oscar off of him for the first part of the fight and that Oscar's age will show up at the end of the fight. But if Oscar comes into this fight in great shape and is sharp, which he look like he will, Floyd will have to fight the perfect fight to win.
    CC #44 bro!!! A good big man will always beat a good little man....
    Tell that to Michael Spinks
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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    People keep bringing up Mayorga. Listen, obviously Oscar picked that fight as a warm up/confidence booster. He fought Mayorga in a slugfest style because he wanted to knock him out and punish him...so when you fight like that you aren't going to look your absolute tactical best. As for Sturm and Hopkins...Oscar was fighting out of his weight class and didn't look his best....give him credit for at least testing the waters...no shame in losing to Hopkins at a weight that is no where near ideal for Oscar. And Floyd certainly has not been fighting stiffs for the past few years

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken
    Now im not talking about Oscar getting a SP, or lucky late KO... Im talking about Oscar walking in and dominating lil Floyd Mayweather and outboxing him, then pherhaps maybe knocking him out in the late rounds. I think Oscar is stronger, just as fast, and more determine then Floyd. It's obvious floyd has never faced someone like Oscar, he has more reach then him, he is at his weight while floyd is moving up. He can box just as he can slug. I seriously dont see Floyd winning.... who agrees?
    Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?


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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    People keep bringing up Mayorga. Listen, obviously Oscar picked that fight as a warm up/confidence booster. He fought Mayorga in a slugfest style because he wanted to knock him out and punish him...so when you fight like that you aren't going to look your absolute tactical best. As for Sturm and Hopkins...Oscar was fighting out of his weight class and didn't look his best....give him credit for at least testing the waters...no shame in losing to Hopkins at a weight that is no where near ideal for Oscar. And Floyd certainly has not been fighting stiffs for the past few years
    Floyd beat Judah a fight ago. Can you name anyone Oscar's beat in the last 5 years as good as him Or even with the same talent? I know Oscar has "fought" better fighters, but tell me one Oscar has beaten in his last 5 years that matches up to Zab(who was floyd's last opponent)? Then we'll talk about who's beaten who "recently"
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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    People keep bringing up Mayorga. Listen, obviously Oscar picked that fight as a warm up/confidence booster. He fought Mayorga in a slugfest style because he wanted to knock him out and punish him...so when you fight like that you aren't going to look your absolute tactical best. As for Sturm and Hopkins...Oscar was fighting out of his weight class and didn't look his best....give him credit for at least testing the waters...no shame in losing to Hopkins at a weight that is no where near ideal for Oscar. And Floyd certainly has not been fighting stiffs for the past few years
    Floyd beat Judah a fight ago. Can you name anyone Oscar's beat in the last 5 years as good as him Or even with the same talent? I know Oscar has "fought" better fighters, but tell me one Oscar has beaten in his last 5 years that matches up to Zab(who was floyd's last opponent)? Then we'll talk about who's beaten who "recently"
    Shane Mosley but Oscar got robbed

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    People keep bringing up Mayorga. Listen, obviously Oscar picked that fight as a warm up/confidence booster. He fought Mayorga in a slugfest style because he wanted to knock him out and punish him...so when you fight like that you aren't going to look your absolute tactical best. As for Sturm and Hopkins...Oscar was fighting out of his weight class and didn't look his best....give him credit for at least testing the waters...no shame in losing to Hopkins at a weight that is no where near ideal for Oscar. And Floyd certainly has not been fighting stiffs for the past few years
    Floyd beat Judah a fight ago. Can you name anyone Oscar's beat in the last 5 years as good as him Or even with the same talent? I know Oscar has "fought" better fighters, but tell me one Oscar has beaten in his last 5 years that matches up to Zab(who was floyd's last opponent)? Then we'll talk about who's beaten who "recently"
    Shane Mosley but Oscar got robbed
    And Oscar lost to Felix Sturm who got robbed.

    But I did have SHane winning that fight. Once again because Oscar was fading down the stretch he didn't run, but Shane took the late rounds again and got the fight.

    So can you name anyone else?
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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    This is how i see it. Oscar is too stiff in the ring, Floyd is way more fluid,and has better angles yeah Oscar is bigger but you can't hurt what you can't hit Bert Sugar said the only person that had better defense was Willie Pep (or he could have been talking about Pernell Whittaker, but lets say floyd for freakin converstation!! ). If this fight becomes a boxing clinic, then Floyd has an easy win. The only way I see Oscar winning is if he traps floyd in the CORNER and slugging, NOT THE ROPES!! because Floyd can get out of the ropes easily. I also wouldn't advise Oscar to do the Philly shell defense against floyd because he's just not good at it, Gatti was jabbin him through it so you know Floyd would be able to also. Plus, Oscar may have a steel chin, but he has a glass belly.

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Zab Judah!!!!! Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay. One of the mentally weakest fighters in the game. All flash and no substance. A man who has lost every big fight in his career...including a fight against CARLOS BALDOMIR. A great win for Floyd

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Quote Originally Posted by Starr
    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    El Gamo, there is a difference in fighting slow stiffs who are strong vs. skilled fighters who are also strong. Oscar is a legit 154 pounder who has power, skill, and a chin (and still at his age very good speed). I just don't think Floyd will be able to stay clear of getting hit for the entire fight. Fighters, including Oscar, have made the mistake of going up to high in weight class. It eventually catches up with you.
    You mean slow stiff fighters who don't move or show defense? Yeah Oscar hasn't fought any of those lately Oscar hasn't beaten one in years..

    Since lost to Mosley Sturm and Hopkins. And he beat Mayorga(yes I picked Mayorga to win) he beat Mayorga but he didn't look earthshatteringly impressive as Stewart was pointing out before the KO that oscar fights in a rhythm that someone like Mayorga seemed to fall into(to his advantage) before the KO.

    And Mayweather is going to off set him very much.

    How do you think Oscar is going to beat Floyd? Are you placing it on the hope that "eventually" he will catch him? If Oscar beats Floyd it will be with ONE shot, because if he stuns Floyd badly with one shot then Floyd won't be there for a second shot, and if Floyd goes defensive(even to survive) Oscar will never catch him
    CC Starr,excellent points. When did Oscar last deal with anyone anywhere near Floyd? A long long time ago and even in his prime,he was getting beaten to the punch by ,Mosley and Pernell. Exactly,I just don't see Oscar having the volum of punches needed to beat Floyd. Most are saying he will win but are pinning their hopes on 1 shot. Zab Judah is faster than Oscar and he barely managed to land those shots. I don't think Oscar will catch him either.

    And Zhubin bro,like I said, Floyd may come in really light,so its not like the weight is going to have that much of an effect.
    You can't compare Mosley and Pernell with Floyd because of 2 reasons:
    1) Floyd has not fought the same type of fighters as Sweet Pea and Sugar Shane.
    2) Floyd doesn't have the power to rock DLH with a punch or two. Floyd is all about speed, that's it.

    And for those who compare him to Sugar Ray Robinson, technically Floyd and SRR are similar BUT SRR could end it with one or two punches. SRR is way way better than Floyd.

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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by zhubin
    Zab Judah!!!!! Okaaaaaaaaaaaaay. One of the mentally weakest fighters in the game. All flash and no substance. A man who has lost every big fight in his career...including a fight against CARLOS BALDOMIR. A great win for Floyd
    Like I said name someone Oscar's beaten in the last 5 years better.

    You do a great job of trumping Judah but haven't given me someone Oscar has beaten in the last 5 years to compare. How about it?
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    Default Re: Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?

    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken
    Now im not talking about Oscar getting a SP, or lucky late KO... Im talking about Oscar walking in and dominating lil Floyd Mayweather and outboxing him, then pherhaps maybe knocking him out in the late rounds. I think Oscar is stronger, just as fast, and more determine then Floyd. It's obvious floyd has never faced someone like Oscar, he has more reach then him, he is at his weight while floyd is moving up. He can box just as he can slug. I seriously dont see Floyd winning.... who agrees?
    Am i the only one who think Oscar will dominate Floyd?


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