Prime Tito Trinidad vs Prime Thomas Hearns 147

[Evil Wacko 3205]

This fight would be alot closer than many people on this forum believe. But Hearns would win as long as he fought technically. In a brawl he simply did not have the chin to hang in there with Tito.

[LegendBoxing65]

This fight would be alot closer than many people on this forum believe. But Hearns would win as long as he fought technically. In a brawl he simply did not have the chin to hang in there with Tito.

I tend to disagree just on the fact that Tito also does not seem to have the chin to hang in there. Do you really think Tito's chin can take a James Shuler kind of right hand by Hearns? I do not. Do I think Hearns does well with a Tito left hook? Probably not either. But I think Hearns would take it better than Tito does the right hand, and the right would probably land before the left hook of Tito. Hearns was in more wars than Tito was I think. I am not saying either guy had a great chin, but Tito's was not good either. He was knocked down by Campas -which was a arm punch. But to make it sound like Tito would have the chin in that fight I do not agree with. He and Hearns were both guys whose offense was their defense. But to be honest ,this would be a great fight. All action and guaranteed knockout.

[ICB]

This fight would be alot closer than many people on this forum believe. But Hearns would win as long as he fought technically. In a brawl he simply did not have the chin to hang in there with Tito.

I tend to disagree just on the fact that Tito also does not seem to have the chin to hang in there. Do you really think Tito's chin can take a James Shuler kind of right hand by Hearns? I do not. Do I think Hearns does well with a Tito left hook? Probably not either. But I think Hearns would take it better than Tito does the right hand, and the right would probably land before the left hook of Tito. Hearns was in more wars than Tito was I think. I am not saying either guy had a great chin, but Tito's was not good either. He was knocked down by Campas -which was a arm punch. But to make it sound like Tito would have the chin in that fight I do not agree with. He and Hearns were both guys whose offense was their defense. But to be honest ,this would be a great fight. All action and guaranteed knockout.

I think Titos chin was better by i still think Hearns would win.

[The Rookie Fan]

One thing we can all agree on is that this would be a great fight that could rival Hagler - Hearns in action. Unless of course Hearns stiks to boxing from the outside and makes it an easy night for himself. But that warrior mentality in Hearns migh get the best of him at some point.

I never considered Tito's chin to be as bad as some think. The only time he was hurt was against Hopkins and that was an acumulation of punches and fatigue after a grulling 10 rounds (He first showed signs of being hurt in the 10th)

Lets take a good look at some of the guys Tito fought who didn't hurt him.

Campas was 56-0 with 50 KOs Now he might have been fighting stiffs from his home town but we all know how tough those mexicans are and to have that many KOs is no small feat. He knocked down Tito with a short left hook and Tito got up at 3 and came back to destroy Campas in the 4th.

Oscar de la Hoya. His power might have diminished once he reached the Welterweight division and he was not exactly looking to KO Tito but he hit Tito with a hard 4 punch combo in the 5th(if I remember correctly) that would probably put most of todays WWs to sleep and Tito just walked straight through it like it was nothing.

Fernado Vargas. 20 - 0 with 18 KOs and considered a fierce punchers in the division at the time. Tito went to a full fledged 12 round war with Vargas and the only time he was in trouble was when he got unintentionally thumbed in the eye. Vargas dropped Tito but again Tito got up very quickly and did not seem hurt at any time of this fight.

William Joppy Not exactly a big puncher but a full fledged Middleweight title holder with over 20 KOs. Tito's first fight as MW and Joppy's punches did absolutely nothing to Tito.

Ricardo Mayorga One of the most fiered punchers at the time Tito again went straight to him, took his best shots and tottally out gunned Mayorga.

[Tito BHB]

tito got knock down a couple times in his career so we can ? his hin
but i don't think hearns ko him
hearns ud

The only thing tito's 8/9 knockdowns in his career tells us is he has defensive issues early in fights

Every knockdown ..(aside from the hopkins knockdown) Was an early flash knockdown.. Where trinidad would be up at two or three..And the round would end with the other guy backing off from trinidad!

[Tito BHB]

One thing we can all agree on is that this would be a great fight that could rival Hagler - Hearns in action. Unless of course Hearns stiks to boxing from the outside and makes it an easy night for himself. But that warrior mentality in Hearns migh get the best of him at some point.

I never considered Tito's chin to be as bad as some think. The only time he was hurt was against Hopkins and that was an acumulation of punches and fatigue after a grulling 10 rounds (He first showed signs of being hurt in the 10th)

Lets take a good look at some of the guys Tito fought who didn't hurt him.

Campas was 56-0 with 50 KOs Now he might have been fighting stiffs from his home town but we all know how tough those mexicans are and to have that many KOs is no small feat. He knocked down Tito with a short left hook and Tito got up at 3 and came back to destroy Campas in the 4th.

Oscar de la Hoya. His power might have diminished once he reached the Welterweight division and he was not exactly looking to KO Tito but he hit Tito with a hard 4 punch combo in the 5th(if I remember correctly) that would probably put most of todays WWs to sleep and Tito just walked straight through it like it was nothing.

Fernado Vargas. 20 - 0 with 18 KOs and considered a fierce punchers in the division at the time. Tito went to a full fledged 12 round war with Vargas and the only time he was in trouble was when he got unintentionally thumbed in the eye. Vargas dropped Tito but again Tito got up very quickly and did not seem hurt at any time of this fight.

William Joppy Not exactly a big puncher but a full fledged Middleweight title holder with over 20 KOs. Tito's first fight as MW and Joppy's punches did absolutely nothing to Tito.

Ricardo Mayorga One of the most fiered punchers at the time Tito again went straight to him, took his best shots and tottally out gunned Mayorga.

Cc.. I would have said mostly the same..

Trinidad has a good chin! ALOT better then hearns'

And his boxing skill and lateral movement is one of the most underrated feat's in any fighter..

Alot of people take trinidad lightly..

Trinidad as an amatuer won 5 national titles at 5 weight classes.. Had 80 odd wins with only 15 knockouts... So if he wasnt knocking out all these guys.. The what was he doing? Boxing

[ICB]

One thing we can all agree on is that this would be a great fight that could rival Hagler - Hearns in action. Unless of course Hearns stiks to boxing from the outside and makes it an easy night for himself. But that warrior mentality in Hearns migh get the best of him at some point.

I never considered Tito's chin to be as bad as some think. The only time he was hurt was against Hopkins and that was an acumulation of punches and fatigue after a grulling 10 rounds (He first showed signs of being hurt in the 10th)

Lets take a good look at some of the guys Tito fought who didn't hurt him.

Campas was 56-0 with 50 KOs Now he might have been fighting stiffs from his home town but we all know how tough those mexicans are and to have that many KOs is no small feat. He knocked down Tito with a short left hook and Tito got up at 3 and came back to destroy Campas in the 4th.

Oscar de la Hoya. His power might have diminished once he reached the Welterweight division and he was not exactly looking to KO Tito but he hit Tito with a hard 4 punch combo in the 5th(if I remember correctly) that would probably put most of todays WWs to sleep and Tito just walked straight through it like it was nothing.

Fernado Vargas. 20 - 0 with 18 KOs and considered a fierce punchers in the division at the time. Tito went to a full fledged 12 round war with Vargas and the only time he was in trouble was when he got unintentionally thumbed in the eye. Vargas dropped Tito but again Tito got up very quickly and did not seem hurt at any time of this fight.

William Joppy Not exactly a big puncher but a full fledged Middleweight title holder with over 20 KOs. Tito's first fight as MW and Joppy's punches did absolutely nothing to Tito.

Ricardo Mayorga One of the most fiered punchers at the time Tito again went straight to him, took his best shots and tottally out gunned Mayorga.

Cc.. I would have said mostly the same..

Trinidad has a good chin! ALOT better then hearns'

And his boxing skill and lateral movement is one of the most underrated feat's in any fighter..

Alot of people take trinidad lightly..

Trinidad as an amatuer won 5 national titles at 5 weight classes.. Had 80 odd wins with only 15 knockouts... So if he wasnt knocking out all these guys.. The what was he doing? Boxing

Thats another great example of how Power Punchers aren't born with it always

[The Rookie Fan]

One thing we can all agree on is that this would be a great fight that could rival Hagler - Hearns in action. Unless of course Hearns stiks to boxing from the outside and makes it an easy night for himself. But that warrior mentality in Hearns migh get the best of him at some point.

I never considered Tito's chin to be as bad as some think. The only time he was hurt was against Hopkins and that was an acumulation of punches and fatigue after a grulling 10 rounds (He first showed signs of being hurt in the 10th)

Lets take a good look at some of the guys Tito fought who didn't hurt him.

Campas was 56-0 with 50 KOs Now he might have been fighting stiffs from his home town but we all know how tough those mexicans are and to have that many KOs is no small feat. He knocked down Tito with a short left hook and Tito got up at 3 and came back to destroy Campas in the 4th.

Oscar de la Hoya. His power might have diminished once he reached the Welterweight division and he was not exactly looking to KO Tito but he hit Tito with a hard 4 punch combo in the 5th(if I remember correctly) that would probably put most of todays WWs to sleep and Tito just walked straight through it like it was nothing.

Fernado Vargas. 20 - 0 with 18 KOs and considered a fierce punchers in the division at the time. Tito went to a full fledged 12 round war with Vargas and the only time he was in trouble was when he got unintentionally thumbed in the eye. Vargas dropped Tito but again Tito got up very quickly and did not seem hurt at any time of this fight.

William Joppy Not exactly a big puncher but a full fledged Middleweight title holder with over 20 KOs. Tito's first fight as MW and Joppy's punches did absolutely nothing to Tito.

Ricardo Mayorga One of the most fiered punchers at the time Tito again went straight to him, took his best shots and tottally out gunned Mayorga.

Cc.. I would have said mostly the same..

Trinidad has a good chin! ALOT better then hearns'

And his boxing skill and lateral movement is one of the most underrated feat's in any fighter..

Alot of people take trinidad lightly..

Trinidad as an amatuer won 5 national titles at 5 weight classes.. Had 80 odd wins with only 15 knockouts... So if he wasnt knocking out all these guys.. The what was he doing? Boxing

CC back my friend. You are right about Tito's movement being underrated. I think he fell in love with his punching power at the end of his career and lost some of that movement as he went up in weight. It cost him dearly.

[Trainer Monkey]

I think Tito was damned good,but I just cant find myself betting against the Hitman
He just had this ability to find another gear when he needed it most

[LegendBoxing65]

One thing we can all agree on is that this would be a great fight that could rival Hagler - Hearns in action. Unless of course Hearns stiks to boxing from the outside and makes it an easy night for himself. But that warrior mentality in Hearns migh get the best of him at some point.

I never considered Tito's chin to be as bad as some think. The only time he was hurt was against Hopkins and that was an acumulation of punches and fatigue after a grulling 10 rounds (He first showed signs of being hurt in the 10th)

Lets take a good look at some of the guys Tito fought who didn't hurt him.

Campas was 56-0 with 50 KOs Now he might have been fighting stiffs from his home town but we all know how tough those mexicans are and to have that many KOs is no small feat. He knocked down Tito with a short left hook and Tito got up at 3 and came back to destroy Campas in the 4th.

Oscar de la Hoya. His power might have diminished once he reached the Welterweight division and he was not exactly looking to KO Tito but he hit Tito with a hard 4 punch combo in the 5th(if I remember correctly) that would probably put most of todays WWs to sleep and Tito just walked straight through it like it was nothing.

Fernado Vargas. 20 - 0 with 18 KOs and considered a fierce punchers in the division at the time. Tito went to a full fledged 12 round war with Vargas and the only time he was in trouble was when he got unintentionally thumbed in the eye. Vargas dropped Tito but again Tito got up very quickly and did not seem hurt at any time of this fight.

William Joppy Not exactly a big puncher but a full fledged Middleweight title holder with over 20 KOs. Tito's first fight as MW and Joppy's punches did absolutely nothing to Tito.

Ricardo Mayorga One of the most fiered punchers at the time Tito again went straight to him, took his best shots and tottally out gunned Mayorga.

Cc.. I would have said mostly the same..

Trinidad has a good chin! ALOT better then hearns'

And his boxing skill and lateral movement is one of the most underrated feat's in any fighter..

Alot of people take trinidad lightly..

Trinidad as an amatuer won 5 national titles at 5 weight classes.. Had 80 odd wins with only 15 knockouts... So if he wasnt knocking out all these guys.. The what was he doing? Boxing

Tito did not face the punchers Hearns did I do not think. Hopkins didn't even open up until the later rounds when he felt he could start pressuring Tito and land the bigger punches. Oscar was on defensive mode. Vargas hit hard ,but he could not land the home run punch needed to knock out Tito. I just think Tito's chin looked better because he got better defensively and because his reputation as a puncher increased. An example is that Hearns took Hagler's best punches in round one without really wobbling, and I am not sure Tito would have done the same. I could see Tito going down in a flash knockdown with Hagler.. Not saying in the long run his chin is weaker than Tommy, but I am not sure it is much stronger. Hearns chin being "weak" was more the result of how he delivered his punches during the time he was landing his own punches and was relaxed. I think Hearns style also was to unload all which was in the tank all almost all and hope it would stop the other guy, later he sort of stopped that risky way of fighting. If he had been a more reserved fighter he would have not been hit or countered the way he was. Tommy Hearns style and mindset almost set him up to be knocked out or in trouble. He never could sit back and win fights with the jab. His biggest flaw is that. But both guys can punch hard. Hearns was I think a greater fighter, but Tito was great also.

[panama82]

Tito wins as long as he can take the fight past the first 3 rounds tito is a better conditioned fighter than hearns has better legs tito wins tko 10th.

[ICB]

Tito wins as long as he can take the fight past the first 3 rounds tito is a better conditioned fighter than hearns has better legs tito wins tko 10th.

Thats totally wrong Hearns stamina isn't that bad Tito would have to survive more than 3 rounds.

[VictorCharlie]

If Hearns boxes I think he wins with a late KO 90% of the time...If Tommy bangs with Tito I'm still takeing the Hitman 60% of the time, but the fight aint getting past 4-5 rounds...I say this b/c I put their chins about equal, Tito might get the edge in power(not by much though) but I think Tommy has a better arsenal and accuracy, plus he was a huge WW.

[taansend]

To say that Tito would be KOed in 3 is just plain ridiculous IMO. Hopkins who is a full fledged MW was banging Tito for 12 rounds before he took him down.

Duran went 15 close rounds with a fully fledged MW in Hagler but got battered at LM by Hearns.

Tito's a very good fighter but Hearns would have KO'd him. He knew how to jump on a guy and Tito's chin was there to be hit.

[Tito BHB]

To say that Tito would be KOed in 3 is just plain ridiculous IMO. Hopkins who is a full fledged MW was banging Tito for 12 rounds before he took him down.

Duran went 15 close rounds with a fully fledged MW in Hagler but got battered at LM by Hearns.

Tito's a very good fighter but Hearns would have KO'd him. He knew how to jump on a guy and Tito's chin was there to be hit.

Lol... You mention tito's chin ..

What about hearn's

Frankly tito has a very good chin.. the only time he was ever stopped obv hopkins who broke him down and gave him a boxing lesson..

it took a long hard time to actually hurt tito.. And he was still up at nine..

hearns however didnt have a terrible chin..But it wasnt strong..

Basically hearns is a great boxer and i think he could mix his boxing and power punch his way to keeping tito off him for long enough.. But no way he stops tito.. There wouldnt be enough method to hearns taking the rounds...He would have to be prepared to take shots to get his off over the long run as he is no defensive master as hopkins is..

It would be tito ko within 5 or hearns by decision..

But i stand by hearns decision.. As he was a great boxer and i think alytough possibly rocked he at least equals titos hight as not many do and he makes it a boxing match early

Talk about a fighht between tall welters of all time :P