IF MIRANDA MOVES UPTO 168LBS LIKE HE SAYS HE WILL

**Purist** · 05-23-2007 07:33 AM

Even if Miranda was weight drained had he had a jab, defense, an inside game, a straight that he didn't have to bring from right field, balance, head movement, his hands up, footwork, and fundamentals he would have still won

**yoitsdan** · 05-23-2007 02:32 PM

I've just watched the fight twice again and there's a few things I've noticed.

#1 is Pavlik's chin, very impressive, a good chin comes from seeing the shots coming and I think his amateur experience has come in handy there cos some of the stuff Miranda was throwing was still pretty big.

#2 was the lack of hand speed from Miranda, I think Pavlik just rattled his cage so badly in that first round that everything just went to shit for Edison that night, his legs weren't right, he wasn't focused, and everything just lacked the usual pop from edison, which says a lot for Pavlik, and nicely brings me on to...

#3 Pavlik's power, Wacko keeps telling me this and the bwoy is gotdamn rizight! The way he punches is really weird, reminds me of Tito, just long and laser like and seemingly impossible power for the type of punches he throws. Miranda was fighting with all his might, but just couldn't live with the power and the volume, thats a mighty combination.

While I still think Miranda was probably weight drained, the Miranda that beat Eastman, Gibbs, Green, and took Abe to the wire gets smoked by Kelly Pavlik.

**ono** · 05-23-2007 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by tysonbruno

If miranda moves upto Supermiddle like he says he will perhaps we will get Calzaghe vs Miranda it was quite obvious in round 6 that Miranda just ran out of gas perhaps he is struggling at the weight it was weird one minute he was punching then he just stopped and backed off i thought to myself he's run out of gas.But one things for sure he will light the supermiddle weight devision up and with them heavy hands he will definately win a world title Miranda vs Calzaghe Miranda vs Kessler 2 massive fights this will be great.

Miranda would get beaten badly by Kessler and Calzaghe.

I'm not sure you know. Abraham is a very good european fighter like Kessler and he struggled like fwock. If Miranda is stronger at 12 stone, it becomes a very interesting fight. Miranda stil wouldn't be that big name that calzaghe needs on his resume tho.