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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Well then I don't know what to say. Honestly, I don't rank to many of the lower weights to high with the exception of fighters like Rafael Marquez who have been through multiple divisions because the individual divisions are quite shallow sometimes, so it takes multiple divisions to be P4P. But...

    What does Israel Vazquez have to do with anything? No one is saying he is a top 10 fighter right now, but to say you enjoy watching him fight like you do a bum is...I don't know what to say Bilbo. Have you seen him take on Jhonny Gonzalez? I mean that was no less impressive then any win by Cotto, Hatton or Castillo who all have the same stalking styles? I don't get it.

    It's one thing to say you don't want to watch them because the lower weights don't appeal to you, but it's an entirely different thing to discredit them entirely based off of how big they are. I'm dumbfounded Bilbo I really am.

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by amat
    Well then I don't know what to say. Honestly, I don't rank to many of the lower weights to high with the exception of fighters like Rafael Marquez who have been through multiple divisions because the individual divisions are quite shallow sometimes, so it takes multiple divisions to be P4P. But...

    What does Israel Vazquez have to do with anything? No one is saying he is a top 10 fighter right now, but to say you enjoy watching him fight like you do a bum is...I don't know what to say Bilbo. Have you seen him take on Jhonny Gonzalez? I mean that was no less impressive then any win by Cotto, Hatton or Castillo who all have the same stalking styles? I don't get it.

    It's one thing to say you don't want to watch them because the lower weights don't appeal to you, but it's an entirely different thing to discredit them entirely based off of how big they are. I'm dumbfounded Bilbo I really am.
    Ok maybe I was being a bit harsh. I don't mean to say they are talentless. What I mean is that because they are small people seem to value it more when they have a real tear up, you know the commentator will say how brave they are and what a fantastic show they are putting on etc in a way that they just don't with bigger fighters.

    The bumfight comment was over the top I admit it and apologise but the reference to women's MMA or women's boxing for that matter isn't at all.

    There are people on this thread who are lambasting me for being a fool and a heretic for daring to speak negatively about the little guys but I'm sure a healthy proportion of you all, and maybe some who have posted on this thread would be only to glad to denounce women's boxing as a travesty.

    I know many of you hate woman's boxing but what makes them less deserving? Do they not show the same commitment? Do they not give 100% also?

    So why the discrimination?

    Why criticise me for saying that the real small guys fighting is something of a sideshow, a circus act if you will, whilst you could happily say the very same thing about women's boxing?

    I'm sure there are women fighters out there who are extrememely talented and the bigger ones I have no doubt could beat some of the lower ranked men.

    Should they be on the p4p list too and if not why not?

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Damn I always thought the Ring rankings were at least credible. This is bullshat.

    How has Winky fallen so far to be demoted, considering he's not lost a fight for years and most people thought he beat Taylor?

    It seems the Ring have shown what they felt about Taylor's decisions by dropping him below Hopkins who he beat twice in a row and has lost 2 of his last 3

    But it's the absurdity of sticking R Marquez at number 3 jthat really pisses me off.

    I know El Gamo practically feeds off of Marquez's 'milk' but come on, number 3, you gotta be kidding me?

    Personally I don't think it should even be possible for a fighter below featherweight to even make the top 10 no matter how good his resume.

    If your p4p one of the best fighters in the whole entire world you should be able to pound out any 130 lb man in the world imo.

    People love these puny little guys for some reason that is beyond me. I know Gamo will come on here now and bash me for my stupidity and hating citing that R Marquez has beaten more ring top 10 guys than anyone else but it's really meaningless.

    He beat top ranked ring guys in the bantamweight divisions, for which read less than 9 st F****** pgymy men.

    They are virtually all little phillipino fishermen or poor south american 'coca' growers because they are the only kind of people small and impoverished enough to make that weight.

    I'm sure there are heavyweights out there who have beaten loads of Ring top 10 ranked fights in the heavyweight division but we all disregard them because we know the heavyweights all suck.

    The difference with the little weights is that you just don't ever see these little guys fights. Sure you watch the top guys like R Marquez and Israel Vasquez, but the vast majority of their Ring top 10 ranked 'opponents' are all part timers who train in between harvesting their crops or hauling in a big catch on some shitty little raft cobbled together with a few sheets of bamboo.

    Ok so they are in the top ten of the pissants division but they could still be beaten up by virtually any professional athlete from football, track and field and rugby so who cares?

    Hell if Laila Ali or Ann Wolfe were to fight R Marquez's past opponents my money would be on the girls to butcher them all so why don't they make the p4p list?

    If you can't discriminate against a male boxer based on the fact that he's a F****** 5 ft 3 in 115 lb runt then surely someone who could kick their asses whilst having the handicap of being born female should be rated even higher?

    Anyway I feel better now I've got it off my chest.

    Rant over, sad click away if it makes you feel better but you guys know what I'm saying is the truth.
    first of its filipino not phillipino, shows how ignorant you are. this whole thread is crap and bilbo ur talking out of ur a**.

    I'm pretty sure Rmarquez can wip ur a** no matter how fat ur are now. you'll have a hard time hitting him while he hits u accurately thats why his p4p. i too don't agree his 3rd on the list but i highly doubt any average guy can wip guys like marquez. any body can throw a punch very few can actually hit and nearly noun of the average guy can duck a punch. but don't worry i'm not going to sd you, you've already made ur self look bad and i think thats enough.
    Actually it's First of all not first, sentences always begin with a capital letter. ur is not a word, unless you are text messaging and whip has a silent h in it.

    Again i should be I but well done on writing don't correctly you'll should be You'll and there should be no full stop after duck a punch. It's generally considered bad English to start a sentence with But especially a when you put a lowercase b, a simple comma would have been better.

    If you want more help use the spell checker but well done for trying.

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by amat
    Well then I don't know what to say. Honestly, I don't rank to many of the lower weights to high with the exception of fighters like Rafael Marquez who have been through multiple divisions because the individual divisions are quite shallow sometimes, so it takes multiple divisions to be P4P. But...

    What does Israel Vazquez have to do with anything? No one is saying he is a top 10 fighter right now, but to say you enjoy watching him fight like you do a bum is...I don't know what to say Bilbo. Have you seen him take on Jhonny Gonzalez? I mean that was no less impressive then any win by Cotto, Hatton or Castillo who all have the same stalking styles? I don't get it.

    It's one thing to say you don't want to watch them because the lower weights don't appeal to you, but it's an entirely different thing to discredit them entirely based off of how big they are. I'm dumbfounded Bilbo I really am.
    Ok maybe I was being a bit harsh. I don't mean to say they are talentless. What I mean is that because they are small people seem to value it more when they have a real tear up, you know the commentator will say how brave they are and what a fantastic show they are putting on etc in a way that they just don't with bigger fighters.

    The bumfight comment was over the top I admit it and apologise but the reference to women's MMA or women's boxing for that matter isn't at all.

    There are people on this thread who are lambasting me for being a fool and a heretic for daring to speak negatively about the little guys but I'm sure a healthy proportion of you all, and maybe some who have posted on this thread would be only to glad to denounce women's boxing as a travesty.

    I know many of you hate woman's boxing but what makes them less deserving? Do they not show the same commitment? Do they not give 100% also?

    So why the discrimination?

    Why criticise me for saying that the real small guys fighting is something of a sideshow, a circus act if you will, whilst you could happily say the very same thing about women's boxing?

    I'm sure there are women fighters out there who are extrememely talented and the bigger ones I have no doubt could beat some of the lower ranked men.

    Should they be on the p4p list too and if not why not?
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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by ono
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by amat
    Well then I don't know what to say. Honestly, I don't rank to many of the lower weights to high with the exception of fighters like Rafael Marquez who have been through multiple divisions because the individual divisions are quite shallow sometimes, so it takes multiple divisions to be P4P. But...

    What does Israel Vazquez have to do with anything? No one is saying he is a top 10 fighter right now, but to say you enjoy watching him fight like you do a bum is...I don't know what to say Bilbo. Have you seen him take on Jhonny Gonzalez? I mean that was no less impressive then any win by Cotto, Hatton or Castillo who all have the same stalking styles? I don't get it.

    It's one thing to say you don't want to watch them because the lower weights don't appeal to you, but it's an entirely different thing to discredit them entirely based off of how big they are. I'm dumbfounded Bilbo I really am.
    Ok maybe I was being a bit harsh. I don't mean to say they are talentless. What I mean is that because they are small people seem to value it more when they have a real tear up, you know the commentator will say how brave they are and what a fantastic show they are putting on etc in a way that they just don't with bigger fighters.

    The bumfight comment was over the top I admit it and apologise but the reference to women's MMA or women's boxing for that matter isn't at all.

    There are people on this thread who are lambasting me for being a fool and a heretic for daring to speak negatively about the little guys but I'm sure a healthy proportion of you all, and maybe some who have posted on this thread would be only to glad to denounce women's boxing as a travesty.

    I know many of you hate woman's boxing but what makes them less deserving? Do they not show the same commitment? Do they not give 100% also?

    So why the discrimination?

    Why criticise me for saying that the real small guys fighting is something of a sideshow, a circus act if you will, whilst you could happily say the very same thing about women's boxing?

    I'm sure there are women fighters out there who are extrememely talented and the bigger ones I have no doubt could beat some of the lower ranked men.

    Should they be on the p4p list too and if not why not?
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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Women's boxing hasn't had a significant fight in years, actually the most significant was probably made tonight with Holm earning the right to face Mary Jo. But women's boxing has a very long way to go to achieve any sort of legitimacy.

    You can speak negatively about the little guys, hell, I did not start following under 125 until probably about a year ago and am still behind the curve so to speak. But I don't think they are given favorable treatment at all and this is where I completely lose you.

    Who says the little guys get favorable treatment? Before Marquez (who I think should be at 4 not 3, if that matters), who was the last little guy to garner any sort of acclaim? And if anyone earned it, it's Rapha.

    You can say the little guys boxing is a side show of sorts, that's fine even though I don't agree, a lot of people share that view. But you've been slighting the talent of the guys and I don't get that.

    If you look at the best boxers under 125, you have some very good boxers. I mean, Fernando Monteil is a real smooth boxer. Always calm and fluid in the ring. Israel Vazquez is a very good stalking fighter with a very high workrate and serious pop. Raphael Marquez is one of the more complete fighters in all of the game. Sure they are small, but their skills are serious and if you watched you could see that.

    The other guys who are stars, Jorge Arce and Vic Darchynian (I'll agree, he is a sideshow ) are very exciting to watch. They aren't saying those two are exciting or the other guy's have skills because they are small, it's because it's true.

    Sure the lower divisions are shallow. That is a fair criticism but I don't think that's what you're getting at at all.

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by amat
    Women's boxing hasn't had a significant fight in years, actually the most significant was probably made tonight with Holm earning the right to face Mary Jo. But women's boxing has a very long way to go to achieve any sort of legitimacy.

    You can speak negatively about the little guys, hell, I did not start following under 125 until probably about a year ago and am still behind the curve so to speak. But I don't think they are given favorable treatment at all and this is where I completely lose you.

    Who says the little guys get favorable treatment? Before Marquez (who I think should be at 4 not 3, if that matters), who was the last little guy to garner any sort of acclaim? And if anyone earned it, it's Rapha.

    You can say the little guys boxing is a side show of sorts, that's fine even though I don't agree, a lot of people share that view. But you've been slighting the talent of the guys and I don't get that.

    If you look at the best boxers under 125, you have some very good boxers. I mean, Fernando Monteil is a real smooth boxer. Always calm and fluid in the ring. Israel Vazquez is a very good stalking fighter with a very high workrate and serious pop. Raphael Marquez is one of the more complete fighters in all of the game. Sure they are small, but their skills are serious and if you watched you could see that.

    The other guys who are stars, Jorge Arce and Vic Darchynian (I'll agree, he is a sideshow ) are very exciting to watch. They aren't saying those two are exciting or the other guy's have skills because they are small, it's because it's true.

    Sure the lower divisions are shallow. That is a fair criticism but I don't think that's what you're getting at at all.
    Actually I'm glad you mentioed Arce. Arce is another little guy being built up by HBO to be one of the future superstars and a potential p4p star and what happens? He gets an absolute beatdown from a guy who nobody had ever heard of and even worse is the spitting image of that geeky kid from Road Trip.

    Don't believe me check for yourself...........






























    Sorry but any guy who gets busted up by someone who looks like that don't deserve to be anywhere near the top 10 p4p.

    Face it Arce wasn't a big star because he has an abundance of talent, it's because he's a tiny Mexican cowboy with a lollipop act who gets in scraps. Circus entertainment. If he weighed 147 what you think Cotto or Floyd would do to him? Exactly.

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Damn I always thought the Ring rankings were at least credible. This is bullshat.

    How has Winky fallen so far to be demoted, considering he's not lost a fight for years and most people thought he beat Taylor?

    It seems the Ring have shown what they felt about Taylor's decisions by dropping him below Hopkins who he beat twice in a row and has lost 2 of his last 3

    But it's the absurdity of sticking R Marquez at number 3 jthat really pisses me off.

    I know El Gamo practically feeds off of Marquez's 'milk' but come on, number 3, you gotta be kidding me?

    Personally I don't think it should even be possible for a fighter below featherweight to even make the top 10 no matter how good his resume.

    If your p4p one of the best fighters in the whole entire world you should be able to pound out any 130 lb man in the world imo.

    People love these puny little guys for some reason that is beyond me. I know Gamo will come on here now and bash me for my stupidity and hating citing that R Marquez has beaten more ring top 10 guys than anyone else but it's really meaningless.

    He beat top ranked ring guys in the bantamweight divisions, for which read less than 9 st F****** pgymy men.

    They are virtually all little phillipino fishermen or poor south american 'coca' growers because they are the only kind of people small and impoverished enough to make that weight.

    I'm sure there are heavyweights out there who have beaten loads of Ring top 10 ranked fights in the heavyweight division but we all disregard them because we know the heavyweights all suck.

    The difference with the little weights is that you just don't ever see these little guys fights. Sure you watch the top guys like R Marquez and Israel Vasquez, but the vast majority of their Ring top 10 ranked 'opponents' are all part timers who train in between harvesting their crops or hauling in a big catch on some shitty little raft cobbled together with a few sheets of bamboo.

    Ok so they are in the top ten of the pissants division but they could still be beaten up by virtually any professional athlete from football, track and field and rugby so who cares?

    Hell if Laila Ali or Ann Wolfe were to fight R Marquez's past opponents my money would be on the girls to butcher them all so why don't they make the p4p list?

    If you can't discriminate against a male boxer based on the fact that he's a F****** 5 ft 3 in 115 lb runt then surely someone who could kick their asses whilst having the handicap of being born female should be rated even higher?

    Anyway I feel better now I've got it off my chest.

    Rant over, sad click away if it makes you feel better but you guys know what I'm saying is the truth.
    first of its filipino not phillipino, shows how ignorant you are. this whole thread is crap and bilbo ur talking out of ur a**.

    I'm pretty sure Rmarquez can wip ur a** no matter how fat ur are now. you'll have a hard time hitting him while he hits u accurately thats why his p4p. i too don't agree his 3rd on the list but i highly doubt any average guy can wip guys like marquez. any body can throw a punch very few can actually hit and nearly noun of the average guy can duck a punch. but don't worry i'm not going to sd you, you've already made ur self look bad and i think thats enough.
    Actually it's First of all not first, sentences always begin with a capital letter. ur is not a word, unless you are text messaging and whip has a silent h in it.

    Again i should be I but well done on writing don't correctly you'll should be You'll and there should be no full stop after duck a punch. It's generally considered bad English to start a sentence with But especially a when you put a lowercase b, a simple comma would have been better.

    If you want more help use the spell checker but well done for trying.
    wow u respond with that hmm thats pretty sad....great job ur very smart :P

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Damn I always thought the Ring rankings were at least credible. This is bullshat.

    How has Winky fallen so far to be demoted, considering he's not lost a fight for years and most people thought he beat Taylor?

    It seems the Ring have shown what they felt about Taylor's decisions by dropping him below Hopkins who he beat twice in a row and has lost 2 of his last 3

    But it's the absurdity of sticking R Marquez at number 3 jthat really pisses me off.

    I know El Gamo practically feeds off of Marquez's 'milk' but come on, number 3, you gotta be kidding me?

    Personally I don't think it should even be possible for a fighter below featherweight to even make the top 10 no matter how good his resume.

    If your p4p one of the best fighters in the whole entire world you should be able to pound out any 130 lb man in the world imo.

    People love these puny little guys for some reason that is beyond me. I know Gamo will come on here now and bash me for my stupidity and hating citing that R Marquez has beaten more ring top 10 guys than anyone else but it's really meaningless.

    He beat top ranked ring guys in the bantamweight divisions, for which read less than 9 st F****** pgymy men.

    They are virtually all little phillipino fishermen or poor south american 'coca' growers because they are the only kind of people small and impoverished enough to make that weight.

    I'm sure there are heavyweights out there who have beaten loads of Ring top 10 ranked fights in the heavyweight division but we all disregard them because we know the heavyweights all suck.

    The difference with the little weights is that you just don't ever see these little guys fights. Sure you watch the top guys like R Marquez and Israel Vasquez, but the vast majority of their Ring top 10 ranked 'opponents' are all part timers who train in between harvesting their crops or hauling in a big catch on some shitty little raft cobbled together with a few sheets of bamboo.

    Ok so they are in the top ten of the pissants division but they could still be beaten up by virtually any professional athlete from football, track and field and rugby so who cares?

    Hell if Laila Ali or Ann Wolfe were to fight R Marquez's past opponents my money would be on the girls to butcher them all so why don't they make the p4p list?

    If you can't discriminate against a male boxer based on the fact that he's a F****** 5 ft 3 in 115 lb runt then surely someone who could kick their asses whilst having the handicap of being born female should be rated even higher?

    Anyway I feel better now I've got it off my chest.

    Rant over, sad click away if it makes you feel better but you guys know what I'm saying is the truth.
    first of its filipino not phillipino, shows how ignorant you are. this whole thread is crap and bilbo ur talking out of ur a**.

    I'm pretty sure Rmarquez can wip ur a** no matter how fat ur are now. you'll have a hard time hitting him while he hits u accurately thats why his p4p. i too don't agree his 3rd on the list but i highly doubt any average guy can wip guys like marquez. any body can throw a punch very few can actually hit and nearly noun of the average guy can duck a punch. but don't worry i'm not going to sd you, you've already made ur self look bad and i think thats enough.
    Actually it's First of all not first, sentences always begin with a capital letter. ur is not a word, unless you are text messaging and whip has a silent h in it.

    Again i should be I but well done on writing don't correctly you'll should be You'll and there should be no full stop after duck a punch. It's generally considered bad English to start a sentence with But especially a when you put a lowercase b, a simple comma would have been better.

    If you want more help use the spell checker but well done for trying.
    wow u respond with that hmm thats pretty sad....great job ur very smart ;p
    I would have written something cleverer but you wouldn't have understood it.

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Damn I always thought the Ring rankings were at least credible. This is bullshat.

    How has Winky fallen so far to be demoted, considering he's not lost a fight for years and most people thought he beat Taylor?

    It seems the Ring have shown what they felt about Taylor's decisions by dropping him below Hopkins who he beat twice in a row and has lost 2 of his last 3

    But it's the absurdity of sticking R Marquez at number 3 jthat really pisses me off.

    I know El Gamo practically feeds off of Marquez's 'milk' but come on, number 3, you gotta be kidding me?

    Personally I don't think it should even be possible for a fighter below featherweight to even make the top 10 no matter how good his resume.

    If your p4p one of the best fighters in the whole entire world you should be able to pound out any 130 lb man in the world imo.

    People love these puny little guys for some reason that is beyond me. I know Gamo will come on here now and bash me for my stupidity and hating citing that R Marquez has beaten more ring top 10 guys than anyone else but it's really meaningless.

    He beat top ranked ring guys in the bantamweight divisions, for which read less than 9 st F****** pgymy men.

    They are virtually all little phillipino fishermen or poor south american 'coca' growers because they are the only kind of people small and impoverished enough to make that weight.

    I'm sure there are heavyweights out there who have beaten loads of Ring top 10 ranked fights in the heavyweight division but we all disregard them because we know the heavyweights all suck.

    The difference with the little weights is that you just don't ever see these little guys fights. Sure you watch the top guys like R Marquez and Israel Vasquez, but the vast majority of their Ring top 10 ranked 'opponents' are all part timers who train in between harvesting their crops or hauling in a big catch on some shitty little raft cobbled together with a few sheets of bamboo.

    Ok so they are in the top ten of the pissants division but they could still be beaten up by virtually any professional athlete from football, track and field and rugby so who cares?

    Hell if Laila Ali or Ann Wolfe were to fight R Marquez's past opponents my money would be on the girls to butcher them all so why don't they make the p4p list?

    If you can't discriminate against a male boxer based on the fact that he's a F****** 5 ft 3 in 115 lb runt then surely someone who could kick their asses whilst having the handicap of being born female should be rated even higher?

    Anyway I feel better now I've got it off my chest.

    Rant over, sad click away if it makes you feel better but you guys know what I'm saying is the truth.
    first of its filipino not phillipino, shows how ignorant you are. this whole thread is crap and bilbo ur talking out of ur a**.

    I'm pretty sure Rmarquez can wip ur a** no matter how fat ur are now. you'll have a hard time hitting him while he hits u accurately thats why his p4p. i too don't agree his 3rd on the list but i highly doubt any average guy can wip guys like marquez. any body can throw a punch very few can actually hit and nearly noun of the average guy can duck a punch. but don't worry i'm not going to sd you, you've already made ur self look bad and i think thats enough.
    Actually it's First of all not first, sentences always begin with a capital letter. ur is not a word, unless you are text messaging and whip has a silent h in it.

    Again i should be I but well done on writing don't correctly you'll should be You'll and there should be no full stop after duck a punch. It's generally considered bad English to start a sentence with But especially a when you put a lowercase b, a simple comma would have been better.

    If you want more help use the spell checker but well done for trying.
    wow u respond with that hmm thats pretty sad....great job ur very smart ;p
    I would have written something cleverer but you wouldn't have understood it.
    I wouldn't have read it, now i know reading ur post is a waste of time

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    Default Re: The new ring rankings suck, and here's why!

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
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    Damn I always thought the Ring rankings were at least credible. This is bullshat.

    How has Winky fallen so far to be demoted, considering he's not lost a fight for years and most people thought he beat Taylor?

    It seems the Ring have shown what they felt about Taylor's decisions by dropping him below Hopkins who he beat twice in a row and has lost 2 of his last 3

    But it's the absurdity of sticking R Marquez at number 3 jthat really pisses me off.

    I know El Gamo practically feeds off of Marquez's 'milk' but come on, number 3, you gotta be kidding me?

    Personally I don't think it should even be possible for a fighter below featherweight to even make the top 10 no matter how good his resume.

    If your p4p one of the best fighters in the whole entire world you should be able to pound out any 130 lb man in the world imo.

    People love these puny little guys for some reason that is beyond me. I know Gamo will come on here now and bash me for my stupidity and hating citing that R Marquez has beaten more ring top 10 guys than anyone else but it's really meaningless.

    He beat top ranked ring guys in the bantamweight divisions, for which read less than 9 st F****** pgymy men.

    They are virtually all little phillipino fishermen or poor south american 'coca' growers because they are the only kind of people small and impoverished enough to make that weight.

    I'm sure there are heavyweights out there who have beaten loads of Ring top 10 ranked fights in the heavyweight division but we all disregard them because we know the heavyweights all suck.

    The difference with the little weights is that you just don't ever see these little guys fights. Sure you watch the top guys like R Marquez and Israel Vasquez, but the vast majority of their Ring top 10 ranked 'opponents' are all part timers who train in between harvesting their crops or hauling in a big catch on some shitty little raft cobbled together with a few sheets of bamboo.

    Ok so they are in the top ten of the pissants division but they could still be beaten up by virtually any professional athlete from football, track and field and rugby so who cares?

    Hell if Laila Ali or Ann Wolfe were to fight R Marquez's past opponents my money would be on the girls to butcher them all so why don't they make the p4p list?

    If you can't discriminate against a male boxer based on the fact that he's a F****** 5 ft 3 in 115 lb runt then surely someone who could kick their asses whilst having the handicap of being born female should be rated even higher?

    Anyway I feel better now I've got it off my chest.

    Rant over, sad click away if it makes you feel better but you guys know what I'm saying is the truth.
    first of its filipino not phillipino, shows how ignorant you are. this whole thread is crap and bilbo ur talking out of ur a**.

    I'm pretty sure Rmarquez can wip ur a** no matter how fat ur are now. you'll have a hard time hitting him while he hits u accurately thats why his p4p. i too don't agree his 3rd on the list but i highly doubt any average guy can wip guys like marquez. any body can throw a punch very few can actually hit and nearly noun of the average guy can duck a punch. but don't worry i'm not going to sd you, you've already made ur self look bad and i think thats enough.
    Actually it's First of all not first, sentences always begin with a capital letter. ur is not a word, unless you are text messaging and whip has a silent h in it.

    Again i should be I but well done on writing don't correctly you'll should be You'll and there should be no full stop after duck a punch. It's generally considered bad English to start a sentence with But especially a when you put a lowercase b, a simple comma would have been better.

    If you want more help use the spell checker but well done for trying.
    wow u respond with that hmm thats pretty sad....great job ur very smart ;p
    I would have written something cleverer but you wouldn't have understood it.
    I wouldn't have read it, now i know reading ur post is a waste of time
    hehe good comeback, have a cc

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    thanks +793 back at u, but hey really didn't appreciate some of the stuff you mentioned about mexicans and filipinos that was not cool

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    thanks +793 back at u, but hey really didn't appreciate some of the stuff you mentioned about mexicans and filipinos that was not cool
    Don't worry buddy once you get to know me you'll realise to take some of the more extremist things I say with a pinch of salt.

    I have a heavy dose of sarcasm built into my personality that some people can relate to and others can't.

    I always figure if your going to put an opinion out there you may as well be wholehearted about it, after all I know I'm right even if the rest of the world is too dull to realise it

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    In the actor bios of the Road Trip DVD it says that the geeky boy is a model in his country. Anyone know if this is accurate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla
    In the actor bios of the Road Trip DVD it says that the geeky boy is a model in his country. Anyone know if this is accurate?
    Well if he's part Mexican or phillfilipino to them he probably looks pretty rugged :P

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