if a modern fighter fought 27 fights in 2 years would you say he's fighting bums

[Tysonbruno]

I watched it live i know what i saw and that was Holyfield holding and he did same in 2nd fight if he had stud toe to toe he would have been ko'd

[JonesJrMayweather]

you should watch how holy used his right arm to tie up tyson's left arm to keep him from throwing his big left hook on the inside..he also used the clinches to walk tyson around the ring and push tyson back because mike stood with his feet side by side and by pushing mike he took mike's leverage so he couldn't fight going backwards...it's called strategy...not to mention tyson landed flush in the first fight and holy just took a step back and kept coming...and by round six tyson was the one holding to holyfield...

[spanky-banky]

Prime for Prime Holyfield in his prime was dropped by Cooper went 12 with Foreman and Holmes and was then beat easy really by Bowe no way does Holyfield beat prime Tyson and when they did meet he held him for 11 rounds and in second fight also he could'nt stand and trade with Tyson

so when holyfield chose to tie tyson up so that he couldn't use his inside left hook that wasn't strategy? didn't holyfield stop bert cooper? and if that's relevent to their fight..then how's this holyfield dropped prime mike tyson while sparring..and that's with head gear on...and this after he beat berbik...

holy never dropped mike in sparring. yes they sparred as amatures and tyson used one hand to even up the wight handicap, pretty soon both hands were going at it and they had to be broken up. true story. holy and tyson were close at the olimpic trials cause they were the 2 loner outcasts