Sugar Ray Robinson 169 Vs Rocky Marciano 188

[Mr140]

I don't think SSR would school Marciano because of his size over him and power.

[El Kabong]

SRR would have a chance of stopping rocky on cuts

Well Rocky wins this hands down IMO....let's not forget Joey Maxim handed a beat down to Ray at light heavyweight, and Ray never truly fought over 160 pounds, hell he started as a lightweight it's like saying Floyd Mayweather Jr vs Roy Jones Jr....it's a problem of how much weight the fighter could carry and still be effective.

Rocky had a great work ethic and Ray couldn't take his power.

I only say Rocky would win because 169 is simply WAAAAAY too heavy for Ray and he couldn't hurt Rocky

lmao at this guy being devastated that people actually compare a welterweight to his idol, with the sad fact being that Robinson would school him as well

....oh so in this case size doesn't matter?

You never add anything to the conversation you just try to pick on Rocky Marciano.....were you raped by an Italian or something?

[Mr140]

Now come on people i wanted some answers not bashing the boxers.

[X]

Well, what about Jimmy Wilde versus Sonny Liston?

[IamInuit]

Rock would wear him down late on. like Maxim did but much more brutal.

Maxim never wore him out the 110 degree weather did. Shit they even changed refs do to heat exposure.

[El Kabong]

Rock would wear him down late on. like Maxim did but much more brutal.

Marciano never wore him out the 110 degree weather did. Shit they even changed refs do to heat exposure.

#1 You mean "Maxim never wore him out" and #2 It ain't exactly like Maxim had an A/C unit strapped to his back

[IamInuit]

Rock would wear him down late on. like Maxim did but much more brutal.

Marciano never wore him out the 110 degree weather did. Shit they even changed refs do to heat exposure.

#1 You mean "Maxim never wore him out" and #2 It ain't exactly like Maxim had an A/C unit strapped to his back

Yeah I corrected it. I just got up.

[Master]

Rocky would have battered SRR into submission.

[IamInuit]

I don’t think he batters Ray at all and would probably think he was fighting a crowd. The speed difference would be out of this world. Marciano was 5 11 with a 67 inch reach. Robinson was 5 11 with a 73 inch reach. I’m not convinced Marciano would be able to lay a glove on him. Greb beat Tunney arguably twice along with several contending heavyweights. Greb was not a big middleweight. Ketchel was giving Johnson all he could handle and was outweighed by about 40 pounds. And what of Langford? He made a living out of fighting guys twice his size.

[El Kabong]

I don’t think he batters Ray at all and would probably think he was fighting a crowd. The speed difference would be out of this world. Marciano was 5 11 with a 67 inch reach. Robinson was 5 11 with a 73 inch reach. I’m not convinced Marciano would be able to lay a glove on him. Greb beat Tunney arguably twice along with several contending heavyweights. Greb was not a big middleweight. Ketchel was giving Johnson all he could handle and was outweighed by about 40 pounds. And what of Langford? He made a living out of fighting guys twice his size.

If a smaller more agile guy was going to beat Rocky wouldn't Ezzard Charles have done it? Plus Gene Tunney was a light heavyweight and he beat Greb and Ketchel & Johnson had a deal to go X number of rounds because of film rights or some such nonsense at the time. When Ketchel blasted Johnson and Johnson got back up, Ketchel got decked and eventually woke back up minus a few teeth so let's not get carried away here

[IamInuit]

I don’t think he batters Ray at all and would probably think he was fighting a crowd. The speed difference would be out of this world. Marciano was 5 11 with a 67 inch reach. Robinson was 5 11 with a 73 inch reach. I’m not convinced Marciano would be able to lay a glove on him. Greb beat Tunney arguably twice along with several contending heavyweights. Greb was not a big middleweight. Ketchel was giving Johnson all he could handle and was outweighed by about 40 pounds. And what of Langford? He made a living out of fighting guys twice his size.

If a smaller more agile guy was going to beat Rocky wouldn't Ezzard Charles have done it? Plus Gene Tunney was a light heavyweight and he beat Greb and Ketchel & Johnson had a deal to go X number of rounds because of film rights or some such nonsense at the time. When Ketchel blasted Johnson and Johnson got back up, Ketchel got decked and eventually woke back up minus a few teeth so let's not get carried away here

Who's getting carried away. I simply said that Marciano beating Ray is not a forgone conclusion. Charles did pound him splitting his nose in two and Ray was leaner and faster then Charles. That film right claim is bogus. Greb fought Tunney 5 times and the point about Ketchel was to show that much smaller men fought much larger men all the time and especially in the original 8. P4p actually meant something in those days. Whats getting carried away is the suggestion that Robinson would not have a chance when the exact same thing involving other fighters has played out numerous times over history and ftr Marciano was no bigger then Tunney

[El Kabong]

Carmen Basilio beat Ray Robinson and narrowly lost to him as well....would that not add support to the "Marciano would demolish Robinson" argument?

[IamInuit]

Pender beat Robinson and so did Turpin. Lamotta beat him the first time they fought. These fights have little or nothing to do with a Marciano match-up

[Master]

It is true if Ezzard Charles could not do it SRR could not either. It is simple genetics. SRR struggled at light heavy, he is naturally smaller. He would not be able to take Rocky;s punches for too long.

[El Kabong]

Pender beat Robinson and so did Turpin. Lamotta beat him the first time they fought. These fights have little or nothing to do with a Marciano match-up

They have plenty to do with it because Basillio was small for a middleweight and he out hustled and out muscled the bigger stronger Robinson....granted Gene Fullmer was felled by SRR and he was more of a bruiser, but Rocky was bigger & stronger and punched a hell of a lot harder 49 wins 43 KO's 100% of them at heavyweight. Now if we said Spinks vs Rokcy or Bob Foster or Dick Tiger or Holyfield or Qawi or Bert Cooper then it's on more even terms for a matchup with Rocky, but Robinson?!?!? COME ON MAN!