Tyson VS Clifford Etienne. Staged?

[Zilla]

I'd say the fight wasn't staged from Tyson's perspective. But Etienne. The guy has gone on to show he is of low moral character, is it impossible to conceive he took a dive? He waited for a legit punch to happen and sure, he almost ripped his own leg off in the process, but I say he could have gotten up and chose not to. Just like Bruce 'the happiest man to ever get KO'd' Seldon, I don't think it was Tyson who set anything up. If anything, it was Don King promising a couple extra bucks, the highest payday for either guy I'd guess. If one punch takes you out like that, it should take longer for you to recover. I can imagine if a guy is taking punishment over several rounds and is KO'd with an accumulation of blows, but you don't just pop up ready to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

If I'm not mistaken, this was the fight Mike had after he 'broke his back'. Anyone ever figure out what that meant? This was also the fight where I found it disturbing how easily Mike was cut over his eyes. It wasn't even one round and Etienne didn't land anything significant, but Mike was slashed.

[Violent Demise]

Like Tyson really needed the fight to be fixed to beat Etienne

[JonesJrMayweather]

I remember that like yesterday, because I was in Memphis, Tennessee the entire time during the build up..It wasn't staged but here are some factors that lead to the obvious flop by Clifford..

1) Tyson was acting very strange during the promotion, he wanted to cancel then said he wanted to fight, then canceled again because he went out and got a fucking tattoo on his face, then said nevermind okay i'll do it

2)Cliff responded by saying that tyson didn't want to fight and the constant off and on behavior was hurting his preparation so he then backed out.

3) People started saying that he was to earn a million for the fight and he was stupid for backing out..

4)Just days before the fight, ESPN reported that Cliff made phone call back home to his wife during which she some how convinced him to go through with it..Many, including the ESPN anchor speculated that she said something in the area of "Man you'd better not blow the hugest purse of your career are you stupid or something like that"

5)On the night of the fight people in the arena where saying that if they were cliff, because of tyson's antics they'd just go down off the first solid punch, stay down, then take the money..which is exactly what he did....I don't think he was hurt at all, yeah it was a good punch but he immediately got up after the count, even told tyson to stop bullshitting so much....

So, not staged but definitely not a 100% performance..

[Master]

Tyson did not need a fix for Clifford, but he may well have stayed down for the pay day, but he would not be the first tyson opponent to do that, Seldon was the best example, at least Spinks took the licks.

[J_Undisputed]

Etienne was had poor balance and was beyond chinny. Didn't Oquendo knock his @$$ down like 8 times? Etienne was there to be caught anytime of the day.

For a guy like Seldon, he just plain soiled himself. He never got hit that hard and when he was boxing circles and literally spinning away from punches from Joe hipp, he never thought he'd be that vulnerable. He practically fainted when he saw Tyson charging toward him as the bell rang. He got up from that little grazing shot. His legs seemed steady, the ref asked him if he was ok... and was ready to send him back out there...then Seldon realizing he could get hit solid next time, started doing the weak kneed stumble and glazed look to convince the ref to save him.

[JonesJrMayweather]

actually if anyone remebers..tyson was playing chicken...making as if he was going to back out of the fight and then changin his mind, then he went and had the tattoo placed on his face so etienne said he didn't want to be a part of the freak show. Then after a phone call with his wife he decided to go ahead and take the 1mill for a short night of work..So he fell and stayed down with the first punch that landed...

[ICB]

No it wasn't fixed but Seldon vs Tyson was a fix.

[Trainer Monkey]

Cocaine,theres a good idea

[BoxingGorilla]

Cocaine,theres a good idea

LOL Keep up the good work?

[Trainer Monkey]

Cocaine,theres a good idea

LOL Keep up the good work?

Guy got paid a million bucks to get his head handed to him by Tyson,and is going to spend the rest of his life in jail for getting high,and vicking 2 grand from a check cashing place
I think Ill put out a new movie
"Dumbass,Cliffords Tale"

[Tysonbruno]

No it wasn't fixed but Seldon vs Tyson was a fix.

I don't think it was a fix i just think Seldon shit himself and wanted out

[ICB]

No it wasn't fixed but Seldon vs Tyson was a fix.

I don't think it was a fix i just think Seldon S*** himself and wanted out

Seldon was knocked down twice.
Many feel Seldon took took a dive {lost on purpose}. Replays show Seldon was pushed down by Tyson in what was credited as th first knockdown. Seconds later Bruce was knocked out.


None of the punches actually landed when i see it either it was a dive i don't understand why he did because Tyson would of won anyway but he still took a dive imo.

[JohnnyKickAss]

All I know is that I paid money to see this fight and that there was a network-breakdown,
just when Mike knocked Etienne out...,when the picture returned the fight was over and
me furious...

[Gandalf]

No it wasn't fixed but Seldon vs Tyson was a fix.

With all due respect Ice, you shouldnt bandy such opinions about without substantiating them. I dont believe either the Ettiene nor the Seldon fight were fixed.

You can question a fighters heart, but to say a fight is fixed so forthrightly is too much....

[ICB]

No it wasn't fixed but Seldon vs Tyson was a fix.

With all due respect Ice, you shouldnt bandy such opinions about without substantiating them. I dont believe either the Ettiene nor the Seldon fight were fixed.

You can question a fighters heart, but to say a fight is fixed so forthrightly is too much....

Miles i just gave you an article didn't the boxing board even think it was i thought thats why they stripped Tyson of the title ?? theres nothing wrong with thinking that because we all know soemtimes there are some dirty dealings in boxing but the thing that puzzles me is that Seldon would of lost anyway so why take a dive imo it was.