Iran Drawing Up Plans to Strike European Nuclear Sites, Analyst Says

[Punisher136]

Nobody want's to see any terrorist getting a chanche to do the things they do and they have to be taken out.
but how are you going to decide which people helped and which don't ?
Innocent people are going to get hurt, just like extremist do when they bomb places
If you are dead sure you have got the responsible ones, waste them but if you take out innocent people everybody will jump up and crucify you guys.
I don't see the USA as the bad guys but others do.

They are antagonizing us now. We could take out bin laden, stabalize iraq, and take out iran's regime and we will still be the worst evil in the eye's of the world. I don't see anybody else leading an attack to fix the terrorism problem in the world. The world can hate us as much as they want to but when we succeed in ending this terrorism problem and make the world a better place, we're not expecting their thanks. Wether people like us or hate us, we're gonna do the right thing. The right thing is taking out indivduals who wanna kill others (and by others i mean everybody who isn't a muslim extremist) based on the fact that they don't believe what terrorists do. We don't care if people are behind us or not, we're gonna do it because nobody else will and because it needs to be done.

[Punisher136]

I'm watching a history channel program thats describing the whole war on terror since back in the cold war days. They just showed the 9/11 attacks and replayed the images of thousands of middle eastern people dancing in the streets burning american flags and flags with two towers drawn on them so now would not be a good time to push my buttons.

[DarkDestroyer]

That's part of the problem there.
You don't care about it.
No way you ever catch Bin Laden, stabalize Iraq and take out the Iran regime on your own and you will never end terrorism. islamic or right wing fot that matter
In contrary what you think you need other party's participating in such a task.
After lying about weapons off mass destruction to get into Iraq for now other purpose because Saddam once made the daddy of the current pres look a bit bad now Iran is the new center of attention. About things like Al Quiada and terrorism we agree but USA as police officer for the whole world is a bit much
Please don't get this the wrong way cause i am sympathetic to what you say but slap on the breaks once in a while

[DarkDestroyer]

There were also millions who disagreed with 9/11 from muslim country but that's not wat sells thew papers and get's the high ratings buddy. I ain't pushing any buttons. I'm giving you another view

[Punisher136]

There were also millions who disagreed with 9/11 from muslim country but that's not wat sells thew papers and get's the high ratings buddy. I ain't pushing any buttons. I'm giving you another view

Yeah the peaceful muslims didn't agree with 9/11 but guess what the peaceful muslims aren't the ones with power around the world.

That's part of the problem there.
You don't care about it.
No way you ever catch Bin Laden, stabalize Iraq and take out the Iran regime on your own and you will never end terrorism. islamic or right wing fot that matter
In contrary what you think you need other party's participating in such a task.
After lying about weapons off mass destruction to get into Iraq for now other purpose because Saddam once made the daddy of the current pres look a bit bad now Iran is the new center of attention. About things like Al Quiada and terrorism we agree but USA as police officer for the whole world is a bit much
Please don't get this the wrong way cause i am sympathetic to what you say but slap on the breaks once in a while

You're right we went after saddam because he made our presidents father look bad, it has nothing to do with the fact that he killed and tortured several thousands of his own people . I don't see anybody else trying to fix things. Everyone else just lays down and gives the terrorists what they want. Iran wants to blow up european nuclear sites. I dunno what country you're from, but you're probably in harm's way. We don't care what people think about our policies because we don't see them doing anything about it themselves. People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. We're going to fix the problem. If people wanna help, fine. If they don't, we're not expecting them to thank us when we succeed.

[DarkDestroyer]

There are a lot of country's where the leaders are animals and are killing there own but i don't see you stepping up against Zimbabwe or other African nations.
Is that because off the economical gain that is the middle east oil ?
I live in Holland, Europe and i believe we will be struck by some kind of attack by some group.
Off course there will be retaliation of some sort, that is your give right but don't go out and think that you can do this all on your own.

[Punisher136]

There are a lot of country's where the leaders are animals and are killing there own but i don't see you stepping up against Zimbabwe or other African nations.
Is that because off the economical gain that is the middle east oil ?
I live in Holland, Europe and i believe we will be struck by some kind of attack by some group.
Off course there will be retaliation of some sort, that is your give right but don't go out and think that you can do this all on your own.

Is anybody else helping out africa? We've just put sanctions on sudan in an effort to stop the killing there. Is anybody else doing something? I'll admit we can't stop everything and we need help but i don't exactly see a bunch of countries lining up to do the right thing. We can't stop everything and we need help, but nobody else is gonna be man enough to step up and do what needs to be done.

[DarkDestroyer]

That a load of rubbish. Do you really think that sanctions is gonna stop the killing in Sudan ?
And to think that the USA is the only one(or as you called it; man enough) is insane and an idiot statement
Don't you know that people from other country's gave their lives also for the freedom and safety off others ?
Don't disrespect those who gave it all but were not from the USA

[Punisher136]

That a load of rubbish. Do you really think that sanctions is gonna stop the killing in Sudan ?
And to think that the USA is the only one(or as you called it; man enough) is insane and an idiot statement
Don't you know that people from other country's gave their lives also for the freedom and safety off others ?
Don't disrespect those who gave it all but were not from the USA

You said what about africa and i'm asking you who else is trying to do anything with africa? Ok since our sanctions wont work how about a different country leads a war to fix africa? I'm aware that theres other countries working with us in iraq and other places but there is no doubt that we are leading the charge. I don't see any other countries (with allied help or not) leading attacks on these bad places. And again i'll ask you: Who else is trying to do anything with africa?

[DarkDestroyer]

Why do you think a war is the answer to "fix"anything ?
Europe tries other ways to do something in other country's, and so does NATO
Maybe not to your liking but mostly without war and violence
A saw a peace on US soldiers in Irak raiding a house in search of terrorist elements.
Don't you think that not all people in the whole world speak english ?
They screamed at mothers with children and old men and no one took a step back and thought;
wait a minute, maybe those people don't understand us
It was shamefull to be honest

[Punisher136]

Why do you think a war is the answer to "fix"anything ?Europe tries other ways to do something in other country's, and so does NATO
Maybe not to your liking but mostly without war and violence
A saw a peace on US soldiers in Irak raiding a house in search of terrorist elements.
Don't you think that not all people in the whole world speak english ?
They screamed at mothers with children and old men and no one took a step back and thought;
wait a minute, maybe those people don't understand us
It was shamefull to be honest

Because these people are unreasonable. They are willing to die for their belief that every westerner needs to be killed and they will go to heaven in the process. They're gonna die anyway and it might as well be in a way so that they haven't inflicted harm to anybody. They think they go the heaven if they kill people that don't believe what they do. Shameful is rolling over and not doing anything about something that is a threat to everybody. You, me, every non muslim, and every peaceful muslim. It's shameful that there's countries out there trying to seek a peaceful resolution with these scum. The terrorists need to be killed. They will not honor any peace treaty or cease fire. Do you uderstand that. You cannot reach peace with these people unless you surrender your way of life and live under their extremists views. That is their goal. They will not settle for part of the world being under an extremist rule, the want the whole thing. Thats the only way you'll get a "peaceful" resolution with these people. So for those that don't want to fight them go ahead and convert to extremist islam and follow their rule because thats the only way its gonna happen.

[DarkDestroyer]

Gave you a CC anyway for the spirited discussion
Even if we don't share the same thought its nice to see a discussion being fought with respect for the view of other
I think we can debate for years on but we won't get somewhere.
I respect your believes and even to a degree i can support that but not all

[Punisher136]

Gave you a CC anyway for the spirited discussion
Even if we don't share the same thought its nice to see a discussion being fought with respect for the view of other
I think we can debate for years on but we won't get somewhere.
I respect your believes and even to a degree i can support that but not all

as well. It is a complex issue thats need a world wide solution. I'm not expecting it to go away overnight but believing that it can be overcome is part of the solution.

[LUCKY_13]

You know in all this. All the crap that happens in the world now days.
Terrorism, Global Warming, Weapons of Mass Destruction, Dictatorships etc.

There's no real point worrying aye?

I use to be sh*t scared of death, nowdays though, best you can do...is get on with life...and when death comes around.
Stand tall and be like...
"You can kill me, but I'm standing here, against it. This way everyone knows, I never surrendered to it."

[Punisher136]

On a side note tho the history channel has been showing stuff about iraq and terrorism all day.