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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Valero-natural at the weight,crude raw power coming from weird angles and good bodhyshots.

    Guzman-defensive artist. I've sold his short in the past but he is a tremendous talent. Would have to work hard v Manny and work ethic does not appear to be one of his skills but with Floyd senior by his side now,he'd have a chance for sure.

    JMM-Arguably won the first fight with Manny and although skill has declined slightly since that meeting,he would not make the mistake of brawling straight away and getting knocked down early.

    I'd give them all a chance but an equal chance that Manny beats them too. I'll probably re-assess after tha MAB fight,a fight Manny should win and win well.
    If Manny wins over Barrera this October, it would be difficult to find someone who will be able to beat Manny.

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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    Agreed with Bruce there.
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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Valero-natural at the weight,crude raw power coming from weird angles and good bodhyshots.

    Guzman-defensive artist. I've sold his short in the past but he is a tremendous talent. Would have to work hard v Manny and work ethic does not appear to be one of his skills but with Floyd senior by his side now,he'd have a chance for sure.

    JMM-Arguably won the first fight with Manny and although skill has declined slightly since that meeting,he would not make the mistake of brawling straight away and getting knocked down early.

    I'd give them all a chance but an equal chance that Manny beats them too. I'll probably re-assess after tha MAB fight,a fight Manny should win and win well.
    If Manny wins over Barrera this October, it would be difficult to find someone who will be able to beat Manny.
    even if pac beats barrera, which i'm certain he will, your statement would be true only if he is 100% prepared for his suceeding fights. those fighters el gamo mentioned are well capable of pulling an upset if manny comes in short of a hundred percent focused.

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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    ive been wondering who's gonna beet Pacquiao as well...
    cant wait to watch his next fight

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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    Quote Originally Posted by Headson
    jmm can beat pac
    JMM wouldnt last 7 rounds with this PACMAN
    And he lost to Chris John lets not forget that he is a nice boxer but over rated for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
    Quote Originally Posted by Headson
    jmm can beat pac
    JMM wouldnt last 7 rounds with this PACMAN
    And he lost to Chris John lets not forget that he is a nice boxer but over rated for me
    Why wouldn't he last 7 rounds ?? and he lost to Chris John yes but have you seen the fight ?? Marquez was robbed pure a simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KKisser
    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    Valero-natural at the weight,crude raw power coming from weird angles and good bodhyshots.

    Guzman-defensive artist. I've sold his short in the past but he is a tremendous talent. Would have to work hard v Manny and work ethic does not appear to be one of his skills but with Floyd senior by his side now,he'd have a chance for sure.

    JMM-Arguably won the first fight with Manny and although skill has declined slightly since that meeting,he would not make the mistake of brawling straight away and getting knocked down early.

    I'd give them all a chance but an equal chance that Manny beats them too. I'll probably re-assess after tha MAB fight,a fight Manny should win and win well.
    If Manny wins over Barrera this October, it would be difficult to find someone who will be able to beat Manny.
    even if pac beats barrera, which i'm certain he will, your statement would be true only if he is 100% prepared for his suceeding fights. those fighters el gamo mentioned are well capable of pulling an upset if manny comes in short of a hundred percent focused.
    Exactly KK. Nice to see a Pac fan who knows what he is talking about. What relevance does Pac beating MAB have to do with him beating all the aforementioned fighters.

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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    No one can beat manny...Pacquiao is stronger than guzman, faster than valero, and better than juan manuel marquez.

    Joan guzman is a good fighter, with a lot of skills. Compared to pacquiao however, his style would never work. He'll knock him down in the first round.
    The pacman has already proven that he can defeat a technical boxer when he defeated Erik morales. Erik is a defense specialist and had a granite chin. But this could not help him against pacquiao. It's noteworthy to say that before being floored by pacquiao, morales never ever tasted the canvass. Against pacquiao, he had a mouthful...Guzman is almost the same style as morales-only younger, he has skills but no power. How can he last against manny?

    Edwin Valero is a great fighter with lots of power. One thing I don't like about him though-is his defense. I've seen his videos in the net and he did not show much defense. Maybe because he didn't have the opportunity to do so or maybe he has none. No one he fought is recognized as a knockout artist, maybe that's why he could bully his way against them. If ever he gets the chance to fight pacquiao he'll surely need to do defense. With both of them hitting hard, the one who can evade punches is more likely to win.

    Juan Manuel Marquez is beyond pacman's league. How can he defend his belt with his glass chin? He had to go to distance against Barrera in a fight where the judges could go either way. Pacquiao however showed the world how Barrera should be beaten - to a Pulp! Pacman and marquez's last fight left more question than answers. The scoring of the 1st round became an object of debate, after one of the judge gave marquez a 9 instead of an automatic 8 points (which is given when there is a ko in the round). Even assuming that judges should be given wide discretion in their decision, they should also know when to give credit when it is due...that judge surely brought the draw in that fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pacland
    No one can beat manny...Pacquiao is stronger than guzman, faster than valero, and better than juan manuel marquez.

    Joan guzman is a good fighter, with a lot of skills. Compared to pacquiao however, his style would never work. He'll knock him down in the first round.
    The pacman has already proven that he can defeat a technical boxer when he defeated Erik morales. Erik is a defense specialist and had a granite chin. But this could not help him against pacquiao. It's noteworthy to say that before being floored by pacquiao, morales never ever tasted the canvass. Against pacquiao, he had a mouthful...Guzman is almost the same style as morales-only younger, he has skills but no power. How can he last against manny?

    Edwin Valero is a great fighter with lots of power. One thing I don't like about him though-is his defense. I've seen his videos in the net and he did not show much defense. Maybe because he didn't have the opportunity to do so or maybe he has none. No one he fought is recognized as a knockout artist, maybe that's why he could bully his way against them. If ever he gets the chance to fight pacquiao he'll surely need to do defense. With both of them hitting hard, the one who can evade punches is more likely to win.

    Juan Manuel Marquez is beyond pacman's league. How can he defend his belt with his glass chin? He had to go to distance against Barrera in a fight where the judges could go either way. Pacquiao however showed the world how Barrera should be beaten - to a Pulp! Pacman and marquez's last fight left more question than answers. The scoring of the 1st round became an object of debate, after one of the judge gave marquez a 9 instead of an automatic 8 points (which is given when there is a ko in the round). Even assuming that judges should be given wide discretion in their decision, they should also know when to give credit when it is due...that judge surely brought the draw in that fight.
    Joan guzman is a good fighter, with a lot of skills. Compared to pacquiao however, his style would never work. He'll knock him down in the first round.
    The pacman has already proven that he can defeat a technical boxer when he defeated Erik morales. Erik is a defense specialist and had a granite chin. But this could not help him against pacquiao. It's noteworthy to say that before being floored by pacquiao, morales never ever tasted the canvass. Against pacquiao, he had a mouthful...Guzman is almost the same style as morales-only younger, he has skills but no power. How can he last against manny?


    Why do you say that ?? in fact Guzman's style would work very well against Pacquiao, he is fast has good upper body movement, good outside skills.

    Morales has good boxing skills but come on how often does he use them ?? he always gets into toe to toe battles im not saying thats bad thing but against someone like Pacquiao it was totally wrong thing to do.

    Juan Manuel Marquez is beyond pacman's league. How can he defend his belt with his glass chin?

    Don't be ridiculous how can Marquez have glass chin when he has never been stopped ?? well if thats the case then Pacquiao must not have much power, if he can't stop a *Glass chin* Marquez as you put it.

    to a Pulp! Pacman and marquez's last fight left more question than answers.

    And Pacquiao hasn't ?? your not going to honestly tell me Pacquiao has been impressive in his last two fights are you ??

    The scoring of the 1st round became an object of debate, after one of the judge gave marquez a 9 instead of an automatic 8 points (which is given when there is a ko in the round). Even assuming that judges should be given wide discretion in their decision, they should also know when to give credit when it is due...that judge surely brought the draw in that fight.

    Yes that was bad mistake by the Judge but it doesn't matter, i still think draw was fair result i had Marquez winning by 1 point.


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    Default Re: whos boxer for now can beat manny pacquaio??

    This fight coming up I believe Pac-man will.In his last 2 outings against I believe it was Solis and Barrera.Were very sub-par performances and if he continues to fight like that Marquez will counter-punch the hell out of him.I believe Marquez will stop Pacquiao in 10 rounds in March.

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    Pac has a lot to prove in his upcoming fight. Should he beat JMM (convincingly) he will catapult himself upward in my estimation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny
    Pac has a lot to prove in his upcoming fight. Should he beat JMM (convincingly) he will catapult himself upward in my estimation.
    You see what i mean with Pacquiao fans ?? saying Marquez has glass chin is the most ridiculous statement i've ever heard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
    Quote Originally Posted by hitmandonny
    Pac has a lot to prove in his upcoming fight. Should he beat JMM (convincingly) he will catapult himself upward in my estimation.
    You see what i mean with Pacquiao fans ?? saying Marquez has glass chin is the most ridiculous statement i've ever heard.
    For me thats wishful thinking...
    They will know for certain on fight night that they were wrong.

    Marquez was the best counterpuncher in the game therer for a number of years and although he's more aggresive now, Pac may still find himself penalised if he over commits to his shots like he did against Morales and Barrera.

    Fight night will answer a lot of Questions.
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