Good for boxing.......... Bad for boxing

**Mar** · 07-25-2007 05:21 PM

This is a good topic....i wish i had a better opinion it's hard to look from a casual boxing fans point of view. Everyone i know regular fan or not loved the pbf/odh fight. It's hard to please people......they hate the skill and defense of the pbf/odh fight but i also remember how much the casual fan would bitch about buying a tyson ppv just to have him win in 90 seconds or whatever and felt ripped off....

**The Rookie Fan** · 07-25-2007 07:18 PM

I'm gonna add one.

Marquez - Vazquez was a great fight while it lasted and anyone who saw it is defenately goint to call his friends up and tell them "you gotta see the rematch, the first fight was awesome".

As for the DLH - PBF fight, it was a very entertaining fight which unfortunatelly was put in the possition of being impossible to live up to the hype. It was not the fighter's fault (check that DLH was the promoter so it was partially his fault) but this fight I'm sure did not win over too many casual fans.

**Kev** · 07-25-2007 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

I'm gonna add one.

Marquez - Vazquez was a great fight while it lasted and anyone who saw it is defenately goint to call his friends up and tell them "you gotta see the rematch, the first fight was awesome".

As for the DLH - PBF fight, it was a very entertaining fight which unfortunatelly was put in the possition of being impossible to live up to the hype. It was not the fighter's fault (check that DLH was the promoter so it was partially his fault) but this fight I'm sure did not win over too many casual fans.

To be honest I'd be more excited to see Floyd and Oscar go at it again than I am about the Vasquez Marquez rematch.

Marquez will just give Vaszquez another beatdown, at least another Oscar Floyd fight would be close.

**The Rookie Fan** · 07-25-2007 08:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

I'm gonna add one.

Marquez - Vazquez was a great fight while it lasted and anyone who saw it is defenately goint to call his friends up and tell them "you gotta see the rematch, the first fight was awesome".

As for the DLH - PBF fight, it was a very entertaining fight which unfortunatelly was put in the possition of being impossible to live up to the hype. It was not the fighter's fault (check that DLH was the promoter so it was partially his fault) but this fight I'm sure did not win over too many casual fans.

To be honest I'd be more excited to see Floyd and Oscar go at it again than I am about the Vasquez Marquez rematch.

Marquez will just give Vaszquez another beatdown, at least another Oscar Floyd fight would be close.

You have got to be kidding...

Vazquez knocked down Marquez and had the momentum prior to the stop. It was not a one sided beatdown

**the phenom** · 07-25-2007 08:45 PM

Originally Posted by bcollins

Originally Posted by NotGuilty136

Same thing with wright and hopkins, you know how they fight. So maybe hopkins and wright don't let their hands go as much as the more "exciting" fighters do, thats probably why they still have consistent speech and know where the hell they are in the twilight of their careers.

Nicely said! So many fans appreciate only one style of fighting, and everything else is crap, in their opinion. CC

Originally Posted by Bilbo

It annoys the crap out of me to be honest to hear people on hear saying in retrospect, 'Floyd won easily, I scored it 116-112' as if you watched the fight live with no sense of excitement of emotion, just a flatline heart response, knowing from round 1 that Floyd was in control.
That wasn't how it was at all, it was a nip and tuck fight in which Oscar came within a whisker of beating of Floyd.

Me too! No way was that a shutout. Not even close. CC

now im a big floyd fan, but i agree with ya fellas, i was at the edge of my seat and all the way into the fight, and thought floyd mite be in trouble of losing, and i was proud of delhoya for putin up a good fight, floyd did win convincgly but it was a close fight

**Kev** · 07-25-2007 09:16 PM

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by The Rookie Fan

I'm gonna add one.

Marquez - Vazquez was a great fight while it lasted and anyone who saw it is defenately goint to call his friends up and tell them "you gotta see the rematch, the first fight was awesome".

As for the DLH - PBF fight, it was a very entertaining fight which unfortunatelly was put in the possition of being impossible to live up to the hype. It was not the fighter's fault (check that DLH was the promoter so it was partially his fault) but this fight I'm sure did not win over too many casual fans.

To be honest I'd be more excited to see Floyd and Oscar go at it again than I am about the Vasquez Marquez rematch.

Marquez will just give Vaszquez another beatdown, at least another Oscar Floyd fight would be close.

You have got to be kidding...

Vazquez knocked down Marquez and had the momentum prior to the stop. It was not a one sided beatdown

Vazquez won about 30 seconds of the round he knocked Marquez down and apart from that just got battered.

Watch it again, he had less chance than Miranda did against Pavlik. Marqez will knock him out again next time around, the only question is what injury will he quit with this time.

**TitoFan** · 07-26-2007 02:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Actually three of my non boxing friends to my suprisement all watched the De La Hoya Mayweather fight and all of them thought it was a good fight.

They didn't catch all the hype that we did, the 24/7 show and following the press conferences on the internet.

They all felt it was an enjyable fight.

I don't know why so many of you guys hate on that fight either, I really enjoyed it, it completely gripped me watching it live as Oscar was in the fight right up to the final bell.

He lost a SPLIT DECISION people!!!

It annoys the crap out of me to be honest to hear people on hear saying in retrospect, 'Floyd won easily, I scored it 116-112' as if you watched the fight live with no sense of excitement of emotion, just a flatline heart response, knowing from round 1 that Floyd was in control.

That wasn't how it was at all, it was a nip and tuck fight in which Oscar came within a whisker of beating of Floyd.

I think it's just hating in the extreme to put a fight like that in the 'loses fans' category

It was the BIGGEST PPV OF ALL TIME!!! How the hell did it lose fans

Read my post again. I said it probably turned off the marginal boxing fans. The fact that it was the biggest PPV of all time has no bearing on my point. The people that paid in droves to see the fight were already either hardcore fans or marginal boxing fans. There was broad-based interest. It is AFTER the fight that matters. What did the results of the fight do for boxing? Did it attract more fans? Did the marginal fans become hardcore fans because of the grand spectacle they witnessed? IMO, no. Matter of fact, many marginal fans probably got turned off by the perceived lack of action and may decide not to shell out another $50 for another PPV fight.