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    Default Re: The Greatest Fight Ever

    yeah , ali would always get back up

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    Quote Originally Posted by liquid
    Tyson was very frustratable and who was the master of frustration? Ali. He would have moved and constantly popped Tyson with that flash jab. Tyson would have gone significant amounts of time without throwing a shot because he would have had no target to throw at. He would have become desperate in the late rounds and begun leaping in, to which Ali would have shown counterpunch mastery with hard right hooks. Tyson would have gone all 12, but it would have been severely lopsided.

    Only way Tyson wins is if Ali is off his game for an instant and Mike crowns him with a huge shot. But even then, Ali had great recuperative abilities and might have been able to shake it off.
    You make some very good points.
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    Anyway, all are just speculations about how a fighter is supposed to counter and strike. People were also saying before that Spinks, flashy like Ali and unbeaten, will be going to give boxing lessons to Tyson. Spinks later on turned to be a frustration when he was knocked down early in the fight.

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    ali will frustrate him and end him by the 9th round. Nobody can move and frustrate oppenents better than Ali. I don't think prime tyson can ever beat prime ali.

    Now if it was 86 tyson vs 74 ali, well tyson has a punchers chance but 86 tyson had no experience past the first half thats were veteran 74 ali will drown him, around 7th, 8th, 9th etc.

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    Default Re: The Greatest Fight Ever

    tyson u must be joking, ali size skill and biggest heart and great skill would completey dominate iron mike.

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    I would never go against the great ALI. He would find a way to box Tyson smartly and keep him off of him. Tyson would tire out after 5-6 rounds and then ALI would show off his great footwork. Tyson was a monster at that time but ALI is no bum. He would of hung in there until Tyson would tire out. Just like he did with Foreman.

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    I can not believe you guys thinking that Tyson would beat the 74 Ali. Ok. Let’s break it down. It 1974 Ali beat a peak Foreman. In 95, a 45 year old Foreman wins the world heavy weight champions. He then fights other top contenders eg Holyfield suffering a points defeat. Now Foreman at the age of 45, won the world heavyweight title and fights other top guys of that era and beats them. Basically a 45 year old man holds his own against guys who are at least 15 years his junior and supposedly the best fighters in the world. Now the question has to be asked is, if was good enough to do this at the age of 45, then how good must have been when he was 25 ? He was 25 when he lost Ali, and Ali was 32 so how good must have Ali been when he was 25 ?

    Tyson did not harder than Foreman. He was a Frazier without Smokin Joe's heart. Tyson was a GREAT 'on top' fighter. When he could bully his opponent he looked sensational but ANYTIME Tyson got taken into the trenches, and had to dig deep. When he had to fight against an opponent in a close fight. He lost EVERYTIME. B.Douglas, L.Lewis, E.Hoyfield. K.McBride, D.Williams. Tyson has NEVER won a REALLY hard fight. A fight where he was cut or hard to pick himself up from the floor. He was never involved in a Thriller in Manila. Ali would take Tyson into deep waters and drown him. Remember Ali biggest weapon was chin and his amazing ability to take a punch. His ability to be able to recuperate his senses quicker than most fighters. There is no way in hell Tyson would knock out Ali, even a 74 Ali (Who was slightly past his best by then) would beat Tyson, but a 67 Ali, the man who fought Cleveland Williams, if he fought Tyson then he would beat Tyson easily. I am a Tyson fan but if Tyson had the heart of a Holyfield then I think it would be a 50/50 match up

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    Quote Originally Posted by denilson200
    I can not believe you guys thinking that Tyson would beat the 74 Ali. Ok. Let’s break it down. It 1974 Ali beat a peak Foreman. In 95, a 45 year old Foreman wins the world heavy weight champions. He then fights other top contenders eg Holyfield suffering a points defeat. Now Foreman at the age of 45, won the world heavyweight title and fights other top guys of that era and beats them. Basically a 45 year old man holds his own against guys who are at least 15 years his junior and supposedly the best fighters in the world. Now the question has to be asked is, if was good enough to do this at the age of 45, then how good must have been when he was 25 ? He was 25 when he lost Ali, and Ali was 32 so how good must have Ali been when he was 25 ?

    Tyson did not harder than Foreman. He was a Frazier without Smokin Joe's heart. Tyson was a GREAT 'on top' fighter. When he could bully his opponent he looked sensational but ANYTIME Tyson got taken into the trenches, and had to dig deep. When he had to fight against an opponent in a close fight. He lost EVERYTIME. B.Douglas, L.Lewis, E.Hoyfield. K.McBride, D.Williams. Tyson has NEVER won a REALLY hard fight. A fight where he was cut or hard to pick himself up from the floor. He was never involved in a Thriller in Manila. Ali would take Tyson into deep waters and drown him. Remember Ali biggest weapon was chin and his amazing ability to take a punch. His ability to be able to recuperate his senses quicker than most fighters. There is no way in hell Tyson would knock out Ali, even a 74 Ali (Who was slightly past his best by then) would beat Tyson, but a 67 Ali, the man who fought Cleveland Williams, if he fought Tyson then he would beat Tyson easily. I am a Tyson fan but if Tyson had the heart of a Holyfield then I think it would be a 50/50 match up
    Good point.

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    Ali would have had far too much of everything for a by comparison one dimensional Tyson..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikefields
    Who would win between the 1986 Mike Tyson Vs he 1974 Muhammad Ali?
    Lemme know what you think (detailed)

    I would say Tyson , round 4 KO
    I'd Say ali TKO 10 Or W.u 12.if Tyrell Biggs And Pinklon Thomas Can,For A Short Time At Least,jab And Bobble Head You Around,I Really Think Tyson Would Get Schooled Major And Flunk.Tyson ALWAys Has A Chance But Ali Way To MUch For 86' Tyson,I Think.

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