Benn: Calzaghe far too good for Brit/Euro

[skel1983]

Haha the Calzaghe fanboys are out in force!!!! The point is in 50 years time when people look back they
ll see that Kessler travelled to take on top opposition and Joe did not. Hence Keesler will get more respect if they have similiar records. Also not one of the Calzaghe fans disagreed with me when i said Kessler could easily have Calzaghes record if he fought S*** opposition in his home country like joe has done.....

Grade A cock!

Go have a better look at Joes record he has beaton 6 World Champions.

[ICB]

Haha the Calzaghe fanboys are out in force!!!! The point is in 50 years time when people look back they
ll see that Kessler travelled to take on top opposition and Joe did not. Hence Keesler will get more respect if they have similiar records. Also not one of the Calzaghe fans disagreed with me when i said Kessler could easily have Calzaghes record if he fought S*** opposition in his home country like joe has done.....

In 50 years time nobody will be talking about either fighter.

Well lets change it to 20 years then, u still havent answered the question. Any fighter of decent skill with a title could fight 20 boxers that dont have near the talent of him at their home venue and have 20 wins. S*** even Sven Ottke could and all i hear is how bad he was yet Joe is some kinda star for doing the same thing. 20 odd defenses against bums is not worth 5 against top guys. Even a close loss to a guy like Hopkins or Jones would have done more for Joes legacy than his wins aginst Manfredo and othe assorted bums.

This is the problem with guys like you. If you weren't around to watch the Ottke era I'm betting the first Calzaghe fight you saw was Lacy, right? So now you look at Joes record and see names like Eubank, Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, Woodhall etc, and because these names don't mean anything to you, you mistakenly believe them to be bums. When in fact it's clear to see Calzaghe has beaten plenty of world class fighters, and must be an exceptional talent to have remained unbeaten over such a length of time.

Fighting Hopkins and Jones would have been great. But you can't fight them if they're not willing to face you.

And in 50 years time no-one will give a flying F*** about where the fight took place just who WON!!!

Reid, Brewer, Mitchell, Woodhall

Reid got outboxed by 42 year old Malinga and wern't consider that much of a threat at that time.

Woodhall had been floored 3 times by Beyer and his only notable win before the Calzaghe fight in 2 years was against a 43 year old Malinga Woodhall was a former champ and was considered washed up.

Byron Mitchell's only claim to fame at that time was losing controversial decision to Ottke but who didn't ?? he had few decent wins like Frankie Liles, but was also floored by a 15-3 fighter Manny Siaca and only just about winning a sd.

Charlers Brewer ?? this ain't same Brewer that before Calzaghe fight was stopped by Antwun Echols in 3 rounds and was floored 3 times by a feather fisted old Herol Graham face it Fenster most of Calzaghe's best win are against former world champions who wern't considered much of a threat or washed up i mean Woodhall and Brewer were considered threats ??

[Fenster]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. Fuck off.

Hope this helps.

[ICB]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. F*** off.

Hope this helps.

What because these names you mentioned that were considered *threats* i just proved you wrong so you act childish ?? wow very mature of you Fenster.

[yoitsdan]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. F*** off.

Hope this helps.

What because these names you mentioned that were considered *threats* i just proved you wrong so you act childish ?? wow very mature of you Fenster.

Mate what do you have against British fighters? Anyone would think you were French!

[ICB]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. F*** off.

Hope this helps.

What because these names you mentioned that were considered *threats* i just proved you wrong so you act childish ?? wow very mature of you Fenster.

Mate what do you have against British fighters? Anyone would think you were French!

Nothing at all im just giving out the facts thats all if Calzaghe was American, French, Spanish, or ect it wouldn't matter because all of his best wins were against former world champions who wern't considered much of a threat or washed up thats a fact.

By the way thanks for the sc Fenster

[Fenster]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. F*** off.

Hope this helps.

What because these names you mentioned that were considered *threats* i just proved you wrong so you act childish ?? wow very mature of you Fenster.

Just a joke son, don't take everything to heart.

You didn't prove me wrong. All you're doing is expressing an opinion. The guys listed were world class fighters. Fact. The very fact Calzaghe is able to outclass these types of guys is what sets him apart as an ELITE world class fighter.

[ICB]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. F*** off.

Hope this helps.

What because these names you mentioned that were considered *threats* i just proved you wrong so you act childish ?? wow very mature of you Fenster.

Just a joke son, don't take everything to heart.

You didn't prove me wrong. All you're doing is expressing an opinion. The guys listed were world class fighters. Fact. The very fact Calzaghe is able to outclass these types of guys is what sets him apart as an ELITE world class fighter.

Well i wouldn't call them world class i would call them step below world class people like Woodhall, and Brewer would come under that category but really and truthfully were Woodhall, Brewer, considered threats at all ?? most of the former world champions Calzaghe beat were past it or just not considered threats i mean did anyone think he would lose to Mitchell, Woodhall, or Brewer did anyone really considered these guys of a much threat ?? because fighters like Brewer, Wooldhall, Mitchell claim to fame was in losing efforts.

[Fenster]

By the way thanks for the sc Fenster

Ive never ever ever sad clicked you. I couldn't give a shit about CC/SC. Have a cool click to make you feel better.

You just don't get my sense of humour.

[ICB]

By the way thanks for the sc Fenster

Ive never ever ever sad clicked you. I couldn't give a S*** about CC/SC. Have a cool click to make you feel better.

You just don't get my sense of humour.

Just been having few shitty days lately Fenster not really in joking mood mate

But have back.

[Fenster]

ICB, I mean this in the nicest possible way. F*** off.

Hope this helps.

What because these names you mentioned that were considered *threats* i just proved you wrong so you act childish ?? wow very mature of you Fenster.

Just a joke son, don't take everything to heart.

You didn't prove me wrong. All you're doing is expressing an opinion. The guys listed were world class fighters. Fact. The very fact Calzaghe is able to outclass these types of guys is what sets him apart as an ELITE world class fighter.

Well i wouldn't call them world class i would call them step below world class people like Woodhall, and Brewer would come under that category but really and truthfully were Woodhall, Brewer, considered threats at all ?? most of the former world champions Calzaghe beat were past it or just not considered threats i mean did anyone think he would lose to Mitchell, Woodhall, or Brewer did anyone really considered these guys of a much threat ?? because fighters like Brewer, Wooldhall, Mitchell claim to fame was in losing efforts.

Of course those guys were threats, they were all proven quality performers, just cause Calzaghe started favourite, and won, doesn't mean they were shit fighters. It's what sets Calzaghe apart as the ELITE supermiddle of his time. I think you're confusing world class fighters with the very ELITE world class (Hopkins, Jones etc). He tried for fights with Hopkins/Jones but they didn't come off.

It's unfair to bust apart fighters records and it can be done to just about anyone.

[eagle]

Haha the Calzaghe fanboys are out in force!!!! The point is in 50 years time when people look back they
ll see that Kessler travelled to take on top opposition and Joe did not. Hence Keesler will get more respect if they have similiar records. Also not one of the Calzaghe fans disagreed with me when i said Kessler could easily have Calzaghes record if he fought S*** opposition in his home country like joe has done.....

Grade A cock!

Go have a better look at Joes record he has beaton 6 World Champions.

Anyone who'd call another guy a Cock on a chat line has issues. U completely prove my point. Anytime poor Joe gets some criticism u go off your lid. GROW UP. Why is it everytime i somehow criticize Joe my sad clicks go up but any other fight fans can take the criticism. Dont be stupid. If Roy Jones had fought the low level opponents Joe has u'd bag him Kessler could fight the same fighters Joe has and have 20 defenses. Robin Reid is not great, Brewer had 8 losses when he fought Joe and had been easily beat by echols not long before. Keith Holmes beat Woodhall easier than Joe, and Byron Mitchell kd Joe and he'd already lost to Ottke and Bruno Girard who were hardly great fighters. Lacy is the biggest win of Joes career. Hardly an outstanding legacy. I have no doubt about Joes ability but my point is he has not fought a great level of opponent for a champ who has had 20 defenses and that cannot be denied.
I think that is some good logic for a Grade A cock....

[Tins06]

I think its been said previusly in this thread its easy to pick a fighters record apart you could do it to anyone if you looked into them enough you could find enough bad points about any fighter to make it seem like he was nothing after the fight.....

[skel1983]

Haha the Calzaghe fanboys are out in force!!!! The point is in 50 years time when people look back they
ll see that Kessler travelled to take on top opposition and Joe did not. Hence Keesler will get more respect if they have similiar records. Also not one of the Calzaghe fans disagreed with me when i said Kessler could easily have Calzaghes record if he fought S*** opposition in his home country like joe has done.....

Grade A cock!

Go have a better look at Joes record he has beaton 6 World Champions.

Anyone who'd call another guy a Cock on a chat line has issues. U completely prove my point. Anytime poor Joe gets some criticism u go off your lid. GROW UP. Why is it everytime i somehow criticize Joe my sad clicks go up but any other fight fans can take the criticism. Dont be stupid. If Roy Jones had fought the low level opponents Joe has u'd bag him Kessler could fight the same fighters Joe has and have 20 defenses. Robin Reid is not great, Brewer had 8 losses when he fought Joe and had been easily beat by echols not long before. Keith Holmes beat Woodhall easier than Joe, and Byron Mitchell kd Joe and he'd already lost to Ottke and Bruno Girard who were hardly great fighters. Lacy is the biggest win of Joes career. Hardly an outstanding legacy. I have no doubt about Joes ability but my point is he has not fought a great level of opponent for a champ who has had 20 defenses and that cannot be denied.
I think that is some good logic for a Grade A cock....

Ok some good points, but the thing is you could do the same with almost every figther, them guys you mention were top 5 guys in the division at the time Joe beat them. He is now taking on the number 1 fighter in the division twice within 18 months.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Jangeorg you need to calm urself down.