GOD IS SO MUCH BIGGER THAN ANY ONE RELIGION

[Kev]

Lyle your god

...if I was created in God's image then yes I suppose I am

So basically what your saying is that God's an ugly inbred hick?

....well if that was true the "Holyland" would be located somewhere in Wales

Wales wouldn't have been suitable for the Holyland Lyle, there's plenty of shephards and barns for sure but no wise men have ever lived there so the nativity scene wouldn't have worked out.

Plus the Welsh lived in dung heaps back then and hadn't invented wood so Jesus wouldn't have been able to follow his father into the carpentry business.

Finally instead of going into the desert for 40 days and nights Jesus would have had to climb Mount Snowdon and Moses already did the coming down from the mountain thing. Jesus wouldn't want to steal his thunder.

[Andre]

It's all a bunch of crap. Most people who are religious are such for very ponderous reasons as they have witnessed just as much lacking proof of a "god" as anybody else has. They believe their must be some almighty being because it "helped" them get over a drinking problem/divorce/depression. While they struggle with their "challenges" in life that are avoidable by simply having some mental toughness, millions suffer because of things that really are out of their control. You can blame that on "non-believers" but truth be told, there are more religious (in some capacity) people in the world than there are non-religious people. If the majority of the world believes in a righteous power, then why isn't the world a better place? Might be because they have to argue amongst themselves who is more holy and right but because they are all close to "god" whatever means they use to "prove" this rightness is acceptable.

The afterlife won't be anything like most people imagine it. First off, you will not have any of your senses as they are all matters of the brain so it won't look like anything. You won't be human shaped because your body is physical and your physical existance has ended. You won't see people who you know or from history because once again the brain and eyes are the only thing that permit you the sense of seeing. It's not a place because then it would have to exist physically, instead it would have to be a state of perception not by the senses but by the most complicated aspect of existance (Knowing you must exist but having no proof aside from your self-perceived ability to exist). A sense deprivation chamber could give you a sample of what that's like.

There are things brought about in the human mind that bring into consideration a great deal the possibility of a soul. Emotions are caused by chemicals in the body so that's simply part of the body's anatomy. Courage can't be taught or induced with a chemical. You can psychologically develope faith or morality from your upbringing but courage comes all on its own. Knowing you won't get the best of a situation and being there anyway is counter intuitive on the part of the human brain and is therefor not a function of it.

Some truths in that if you stand in one spot only.

I think 90% of Religion and its people suck too .

But the Creator or the creative forces of life is something different totally.

The void cannot be experienced by thought or words, its the only place you can feel the whole from without any preconcieved notions.

Perspective changes things. Frequency changes things on all our scales measured.

The rules are not fixed like single thoughts can be.

"Total free will" for both the religious and the non religious is the real answer to why things are as they are, instead of perfect by some invented perfect being as some director of all the life traffic.

Its one thing being all knowing and another being all controlling.

IT shows a misinterpretation of the Creative forces and the intent behind it all.

Or is it blind chaos?

Love is the missing word in your own clever analogy.

Some choose to live for themselves some choose to live for others, both religious and non religious people stand on both sides of that same fence so there's no difference (except judgment of others which leads all of them astray).

They make excuses and place blame outside of themselves onto others mainly because; mentally the ego has to be correct if that is what is allowed to rule any one life.

On the other hand there are others both religious and not who choose love and they see and feel from a perspective that others cannot see or feel.
All due to that same free choice which makes it all possible in 'opposites firstly' and then after that, the next point of view available .