Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

[Baby-Faced-Assassin]

Norris for me

[DaxxKahn]

A hard list to make...Mainly because so many great fighters have been there at one point or another...Be it a start off point or passing point on the way to MW....Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Trinidad, etc...Terry Norris might be the number one because thats when he was "Terrible" Terry but others that could make a case for is...

Mike McCallum- The Body Snatcher was a bad man who beat other greats like McCrory, Jackson and Curry at 154 while WBA champion...He was never KO'd and 3 of his 5 losses came way past his best days and were at higher weights...2 of his 5 losses were to James Toney and 1 to RJJ..No shame there

Koichi Wajima- In the He held one version or another of this title. Pretty much for 7 or 8 yrs Wajima was always the man to fight in 154..It was not until the last couple of years of his career his chin started getting soft...He would lose one version of the title in one fight and pick up a defferent version the fight after that...

Fernando Vargas- The youngest JMW champion ever..Beat Wright and Quartey as champion won title from Yori Boy Campas when Yori Boy was only beaten by Trinidad and Lopez up until that point...

[CutMeMick]

My vote goes to Terry followed by Mike.
Due to longevity and being that Terry lived at 154.... While others were there for a short period.

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i think possibley harry greb(in his middleweight time) wood because i think he was one of the best 154 pounder he could fight the best out there with only one eye, mr greb takes all men twice his size and eats them for breakfastonly man to beat gene tunney just dont mention kid norfolk he makes my eyes water.

I always wonder why people comment on Greb. I mean how do you really know he was a great fighter?

[Master]

Forgot about Tito he was awesome at the weight and beat Vargas who beat all the guys Daxx mentioned and Reid too. Although he would have lost to McCallum.

[p4pking]

Yeah Norris probably achieved most at 154, maybe.. I would pick Hearns or McCallum at their best to beat him though, wouldn't even consider those pick em's whatsoever. As for McCallum vs Hearns, that would have been one HELL of a fight. They sparred together all the time at Kronk, apparently Hearns gave McCallum his nickname "the bodysnatcher".

[chantelle]

My vote goes to Terry followed by Mike.
Due to longevity and being that Terry lived at 154.... While others were there for a short period.



I always wonder why people comment on Greb. I mean how do you really know he was a great fighter?

though reading about him , and highlights on you tube i have seen but your right i dont have much to go by, but i agree its terry norris i just wanted to be different and the book i read on harry greb really sold him as a good fighter. i wish i could watch his fights , does anyone know why they werent recoreded fully?

[the wiz]

For me this is easy, Thomas "Hit Man" Hearns. Devestating at 154. To all the Norris being the greatest at this weight, didn't he get KTFO by Jullian Jackson at 154?

[Scrap]

There was a time when nobody wanted to know Mike none of the big guns wanted to know when he was at his peak which was 154 he was a machine, Funny the shot that Kod Curry that people talk about was a fluke.

[Spicoli]

as far as pure long-term 154 fighters,where it was not a spring board for a couple of fights,Laugh it up but in the a few names pop up:
Winky Wright
Terry Norris
Julio c. vasquez I Dont Think The Best But He Beat winky Wright (yes yrs ago I KNow)He put him down FIVE times,if you watch close 2 were clearly slips but in argentina they do some DIRTY stuff In Fights.He also beat Aaron davis,A Very Underrated jr.mid.IMO,again at home and split dec.
It comes down to,ON Pure CONSISTENCY Winky Wright Or TerryNorris??
Maybe even Gianfranco rosi LOL.

As a Self Described "FanAddict" when it comes to boxing and a stickler for accuracy,turns out my memory faulters in my old age lol.maybe I should have checked the booksand tapes a little closer on this one.
A.Davis won Title At Jr.Welt. vs. Mark breland.His weight was Not as consitent as I though and He spent alot of time at middle too,back and forth.I still think he was a very good fighter who recieves nearly no recognition.
Vasquez W.12 W.Wright was in france,not Argentina.(They still do some dirty things in argentina bouts).
It Comes Down To Terry norris and Ronald wright.Once I Get Past ,IMO His Stiff Legs,The China Chin,and his bad habit of smacking foes when there down,I Would say Terry norris as well.ONconcistency at 154,not for being the best to have ever fought there.He Could Have had the biggest heart there though.

[BlackRazor]

I agree with most that it's either Norris or McCallum.

I think Mike would have mopped the floor with Terry. Mike's 1st loss was @ 160, he was 31-0 @ 154 or lighter & was never stopped @ any weight.

Terry has losses @ 154 to Laurent Boudouani (9 TKO), Keith Mullings (9 TKO), Simon Brown (4 KO) & Julian Jackson (2 TKO).

Norris was too up & down for me & his biggest wins @ 154 were against shot fighters (Sugar Ray & Mugabi). He also seemed to feast on blown up welterweights.

[yoitsdan]

It may be Norris or McCallum, but if you matched one of them in their prime with Winky Wright, I'd have had him favourite against either man.

[Dark Lord Al]

Norris was a good 154 , as was Winky , however Hearns that KOED Duran would beat them both.
Mccallum was also a great 154 and would beat both Winky and Norris.
HEARNS V MCCALLUM WELL WHO KNOWS WHO WINS THAT FIGHT.

[amat]

McCallum for me. Possibly had the worst luck, there were just no fights for him.

He had a huge fight lined up with the pound for pound number 1 Donald Curry, and what does Curry do? Loses to an unknown named Lloyd Honneygan. Comes close to securing a Hagler bout many times, when he finally thinks he has it, Leonard comes out of his retirement. Then had some injury problems when he finally fought at 160, he came up a tad bit short against Sumbalay.

Most of his real high profile bouts came at 160 after injury problems and well past his best years. Against Toney, you can tell he just didn't have any snap in his punch and he faded down the stretch but still made for a hell of a fight.

IMO, he is the best 154 lber ever and peaked with his KO over Curry. Even though Curry wasn't P4P number 1, McCallum was spectacular that night.

After him, Winky.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Id have to say Hearns is definitely up there.

Nino Benvenutti was great at Lm

[Master]

Agree with Amat. McCallum, Hearns, Norris and then Winky