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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff Spicoli Surfs In 'Nawlins
    as far as pure long-term 154 fighters,where it was not a spring board for a couple of fights,Laugh it up but in the a few names pop up:
    Winky Wright
    Terry Norris
    Julio c. vasquez I Dont Think The Best But He Beat winky Wright (yes yrs ago I KNow)He put him down FIVE times,if you watch close 2 were clearly slips but in argentina they do some DIRTY stuff In Fights.He also beat Aaron davis,A Very Underrated jr.mid.IMO,again at home and split dec.
    It comes down to,ON Pure CONSISTENCY Winky Wright Or TerryNorris??
    Maybe even Gianfranco rosi LOL.
    As a Self Described "FanAddict" when it comes to boxing and a stickler for accuracy,turns out my memory faulters in my old age lol.maybe I should have checked the booksand tapes a little closer on this one.
    A.Davis won Title At Jr.Welt. vs. Mark breland.His weight was Not as consitent as I though and He spent alot of time at middle too,back and forth.I still think he was a very good fighter who recieves nearly no recognition.
    Vasquez W.12 W.Wright was in france,not Argentina.(They still do some dirty things in argentina bouts).
    It Comes Down To Terry norris and Ronald wright.Once I Get Past ,IMO His Stiff Legs,The China Chin,and his bad habit of smacking foes when there down,I Would say Terry norris as well.ONconcistency at 154,not for being the best to have ever fought there.He Could Have had the biggest heart there though.

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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by skyler
    I agree with most that it's either Norris or McCallum.
    I think Mike would have mopped the floor with Terry. Mike's 1st loss was @ 160, he was 31-0 @ 154 or lighter & was never stopped @ any weight.

    Terry has losses @ 154 to Laurent Boudouani (9 TKO), Keith Mullings (9 TKO), Simon Brown (4 KO) & Julian Jackson (2 TKO).

    Norris was too up & down for me & his biggest wins @ 154 were against shot fighters (Sugar Ray & Mugabi). He also seemed to feast on blown up welterweights.


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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    It may be Norris or McCallum, but if you matched one of them in their prime with Winky Wright, I'd have had him favourite against either man.
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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Norris was a good 154 , as was Winky , however Hearns that KOED Duran would beat them both.
    Mccallum was also a great 154 and would beat both Winky and Norris.
    HEARNS V MCCALLUM WELL WHO KNOWS WHO WINS THAT FIGHT.

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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    McCallum for me. Possibly had the worst luck, there were just no fights for him.

    He had a huge fight lined up with the pound for pound number 1 Donald Curry, and what does Curry do? Loses to an unknown named Lloyd Honneygan. Comes close to securing a Hagler bout many times, when he finally thinks he has it, Leonard comes out of his retirement. Then had some injury problems when he finally fought at 160, he came up a tad bit short against Sumbalay.

    Most of his real high profile bouts came at 160 after injury problems and well past his best years. Against Toney, you can tell he just didn't have any snap in his punch and he faded down the stretch but still made for a hell of a fight.

    IMO, he is the best 154 lber ever and peaked with his KO over Curry. Even though Curry wasn't P4P number 1, McCallum was spectacular that night.

    After him, Winky.

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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Id have to say Hearns is definitely up there.

    Nino Benvenutti was great at Lm
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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Agree with Amat. McCallum, Hearns, Norris and then Winky
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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    ive benn thinking for this for a couple of week ,but knda in tournament styles
    154 is a odd weight it had some good 1 time champs like mugabi

    also harry simon was a force

    imo it was mccallum

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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Floyd will obvisouly claims it's him

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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I was watching Terry Norris just now and it got me thinking,who was the best 154 pounder ever? The division is in a bit of a slumber but it's had some great champions. Let me know your thoughts,I want to see what you knowledgeable guys think.
    Terry Norris had thrill factor.. very strong physically and very explosive , Norris had that warrior mentality win lose or draw he came to fight. he took on all comers.. Terry was very confident in his abilities and was very inspiring to be around in the gym . people like Holyfield and Norris make others around them want to work out harder , make others want to raise their level of performance and so on,

    Terry Norris was one of those fighters that was good for the sport.
    Best Jr Middleweight ever . hell why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I was watching Terry Norris just now and it got me thinking,who was the best 154 pounder ever? The division is in a bit of a slumber but it's had some great champions. Let me know your thoughts,I want to see what you knowledgeable guys think.
    Terry Norris had thrill factor.. very strong physically and very explosive , Norris had that warrior mentality win lose or draw he came to fight. he took on all comers.. Terry was very confident in his abilities and was very inspiring to be around in the gym . people like Holyfield and Norris make others around them want to work out harder , make others want to raise their level of performance and so on,

    Terry Norris was one of those fighters that was good for the sport.
    Best Jr Middleweight ever . hell why not?
    Norris is one of the most exciting fighters i've ever seen shame he had his demons and suspect chin i would of loved to have seen him fight Hearns that would be Hagler vs Hearns with knockdowns his fight with Waters was one of best 3 rounds ever his fight with Mugabi was brutal did you see his left hook he landed on Mugabi that made him do the Judah dance ?? that was brutal left hook and a brutal finish and his knockout loss to Jackson was brutal aswell man what a punch it was Jackson hit like a truck when you watched Norris you was always guaranteed an action packed fight Norris is best JR Middleweight ever for what he achieved and the excitement he brung.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I was watching Terry Norris just now and it got me thinking,who was the best 154 pounder ever? The division is in a bit of a slumber but it's had some great champions. Let me know your thoughts,I want to see what you knowledgeable guys think.
    Terry Norris had thrill factor.. very strong physically and very explosive , Norris had that warrior mentality win lose or draw he came to fight. he took on all comers.. Terry was very confident in his abilities and was very inspiring to be around in the gym . people like Holyfield and Norris make others around them want to work out harder , make others want to raise their level of performance and so on,

    Terry Norris was one of those fighters that was good for the sport.
    Best Jr Middleweight ever . hell why not?
    Norris is one of the most exciting fighters i've ever seen shame he had his demons and suspect chin i would of loved to have seen him fight Hearns that would be Hagler vs Hearns with knockdowns his fight with Waters was one of best 3 rounds ever his fight with Mugabi was brutal did you see his left hook he landed on Mugabi that made him do the Judah dance ?? that was brutal left hook and a brutal finish and his knockout loss to Jackson was brutal aswell man what a punch it was Jackson hit like a truck when you watched Norris you was always guaranteed an action packed fight Norris is best JR Middleweight ever for what he achieved and the excitement he brung.
    these are my thoughts exactly.. cc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I was watching Terry Norris just now and it got me thinking,who was the best 154 pounder ever? The division is in a bit of a slumber but it's had some great champions. Let me know your thoughts,I want to see what you knowledgeable guys think.
    Terry Norris had thrill factor.. very strong physically and very explosive , Norris had that warrior mentality win lose or draw he came to fight. he took on all comers.. Terry was very confident in his abilities and was very inspiring to be around in the gym . people like Holyfield and Norris make others around them want to work out harder , make others want to raise their level of performance and so on,

    Terry Norris was one of those fighters that was good for the sport.
    Best Jr Middleweight ever . hell why not?
    Norris is one of the most exciting fighters i've ever seen shame he had his demons and suspect chin i would of loved to have seen him fight Hearns that would be Hagler vs Hearns with knockdowns his fight with Waters was one of best 3 rounds ever his fight with Mugabi was brutal did you see his left hook he landed on Mugabi that made him do the Judah dance ?? that was brutal left hook and a brutal finish and his knockout loss to Jackson was brutal aswell man what a punch it was Jackson hit like a truck when you watched Norris you was always guaranteed an action packed fight Norris is best JR Middleweight ever for what he achieved and the excitement he brung.
    these are my thoughts exactly.. cc
    LG shame your not on much anymore your one of the top posters here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
    Quote Originally Posted by Lords Gym
    Quote Originally Posted by El Gamo
    I was watching Terry Norris just now and it got me thinking,who was the best 154 pounder ever? The division is in a bit of a slumber but it's had some great champions. Let me know your thoughts,I want to see what you knowledgeable guys think.
    Terry Norris had thrill factor.. very strong physically and very explosive , Norris had that warrior mentality win lose or draw he came to fight. he took on all comers.. Terry was very confident in his abilities and was very inspiring to be around in the gym . people like Holyfield and Norris make others around them want to work out harder , make others want to raise their level of performance and so on,

    Terry Norris was one of those fighters that was good for the sport.
    Best Jr Middleweight ever . hell why not?
    Norris is one of the most exciting fighters i've ever seen shame he had his demons and suspect chin i would of loved to have seen him fight Hearns that would be Hagler vs Hearns with knockdowns his fight with Waters was one of best 3 rounds ever his fight with Mugabi was brutal did you see his left hook he landed on Mugabi that made him do the Judah dance ?? that was brutal left hook and a brutal finish and his knockout loss to Jackson was brutal aswell man what a punch it was Jackson hit like a truck when you watched Norris you was always guaranteed an action packed fight Norris is best JR Middleweight ever for what he achieved and the excitement he brung.
    these are my thoughts exactly.. cc
    LG shame your not on much anymore your one of the top posters here.
    .Thanks for the kind words mate. . the feeling is mutual .

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    Default Re: Who is the best 154 pounder of all time and why?

    Hearns, McCallum then maybe Benitez...
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