Where does Margrito stand in the welterwieght divison

[eagle]

His fastest way to climb the rankings is to fight Judah. He would KO Judah in a few rounds imo and would be right back in the mix. It wont happen though so maybe he should fight Cintron again to remind people why he was a champion.

Yeah Judah would be the guy to fight but Zab wont fight Margarito.

[BoomBoom]

His fastest way to climb the rankings is to fight Judah. He would KO Judah in a few rounds imo and would be right back in the mix. It wont happen though so maybe he should fight Cintron again to remind people why he was a champion.

Yeah Judah would be the guy to fight but Zab wont fight Margarito.

Yeah I doubt it..but than again Zab aint afraid of taking a dangerous fight so maybe hell surprise us.

[Spicoli]

Tony Will Tko Cintron Late.He will def. have to come back as opponent and cause someone to relize there major mistake.clottey losses again,waywither,mosley beat tony now,williams Losses Imo.I dont think kleenex kermit is all that improved.Margarito has his # .

[El Gamo]

Margarito is easily still top 5,he holds wins over 7 RING top 10 ranked opponents and has beaten Cintron and Clottey who are both easily top 10. And he is facing Williams early in next year in a rematch Remember where you heard it first Although I'm HUGELY annoyed he is not more active,it's his biggest weakness. He should try and fght this year v Judah or another gatekeeper.

[CutMeMick]

This is how I see the Welters right now.

Cotto
SSM
Williams
Margarito
Cintron

[boozeboxer]

Margarito is easily still top 5,he holds wins over 7 RING top 10 ranked opponents and has beaten Cintron and Clottey who are both easily top 10. And he is facing Williams early in next year in a rematch Remember where you heard it first Although I'm HUGELY annoyed he is not more active,it's his biggest weakness. He should try and fght this year v Judah or another gatekeeper.

Valid points Game

[Mr140]

Thank you for the info on the rematch with Margarito and Williams that should be a very good match to watch

[El Gamo]

Margarito is easily still top 5,he holds wins over 7 RING top 10 ranked opponents and has beaten Cintron and Clottey who are both easily top 10. And he is facing Williams early in next year in a rematch Remember where you heard it first Although I'm HUGELY annoyed he is not more active,it's his biggest weakness. He should try and fght this year v Judah or another gatekeeper.

Valid points Game

Thanks bro

Thank you for the info on the rematch with Margarito and Williams that should be a very good match to watch

Always a pleasure I'm glad to see topics on Margarito,the guy is still a dangerman AND is pretty well known if you ask me.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Im not trying to cause offence here, i like Tony honestly i do, but in this era of great welters Antonio is second tier.
He's a good fighter, he's got a lotta power and for an opponent to take him lightly would be a mistake, but he's not a Terminator. A guy of his size at welterweight should equate to a guy who can sharply end fights, not grind out wins. I no he's got a lot of stoppages but they were mainly attritional or rough house Ko's. (Again im not tryin to offfend!)

So it becomes apparent that he is good but not great. Therein lies his problem, he is active in an era where there are a number of fighters who can potentially achieve greatness. Fighters such as PBF, Cotto, Mosely and even Williams, these popular talented fighters will overshadow Margarito and he will be forgotten in the wake of their legacies.

Furthermore, it have been scrutinising for some time as to why Tony stays at Welter. Surely bigger money is accessible at Light Middle, what with the publics natural attraction to bigger fighters and the somewhat easier climb to the top. (Since Winky vacated the building n Oscar is inactive LM also needs a top fighter.) And Tony because of his height n size should surely be able for 154

Well...My hypothesis is that Margarito and his camp feel that he does not have sufficient POWER to be KO the campaigners at 154 nor does he have the adequate boxing skills to compensate for this lack of power.
Think of Kassim Ouma, Corey Spinks...they took JT's punches, u think they couldn't take Antonio Margarito's?

Once agin, i'm not tryin to disrespect any of Margarito's loyal followers or Him either, thats jus my opinion.

[Hughesd]

That loss to Williams did him a lot of damage IMO. None of the top fighters will bother with him unless he wins the rematch. Cotto, Mosely, Mayweather and Hatton (not strictly a welterweight I know) are way above him.

[El Gamo]

That loss to Williams did him a lot of damage IMO. None of the top fighters will bother with him unless he wins the rematch. Cotto, Mosely, Mayweather and Hatton (not strictly a welterweight I know) are way above him.

If you're saying Hatton is above Margarito'your points have lost all significance.

Im not trying to cause offence here, i like Tony honestly i do, but in this era of great welters Antonio is second tier.
He's a good fighter, he's got a lotta power and for an opponent to take him lightly would be a mistake, but he's not a Terminator. A guy of his size at welterweight should equate to a guy who can sharply end fights, not grind out wins. I no he's got a lot of stoppages but they were mainly attritional or rough house Ko's. (Again im not tryin to offfend!)

So it becomes apparent that he is good but not great. Therein lies his problem, he is active in an era where there are a number of fighters who can potentially achieve greatness. Fighters such as PBF, Cotto, Mosely and even Williams, these popular talented fighters will overshadow Margarito and he will be forgotten in the wake of their legacies.

Furthermore, it have been scrutinising for some time as to why Tony stays at Welter. Surely bigger money is accessible at Light Middle, what with the publics natural attraction to bigger fighters and the somewhat easier climb to the top. (Since Winky vacated the building n Oscar is inactive LM also needs a top fighter.) And Tony because of his height n size should surely be able for 154

Well...My hypothesis is that Margarito and his camp feel that he does not have sufficient POWER to be KO the campaigners at 154 nor does he have the adequate boxing skills to compensate for this lack of power.
Think of Kassim Ouma, Corey Spinks...they took JT's punches, u think they couldn't take Antonio Margarito's?

Once agin, i'm not tryin to disrespect any of Margarito's loyal followers or Him either, thats jus my opinion.

You can have your opinion but the going to 154 is a silly point.A really silly point. First all the big fights are at 147 and second what is he going to do at 154 when the better fighter are at 147?

Also,he earned his biggest payday thus far v Williams($1.25million if I remember correctly) and has become a draw of sorts where he fights.

Finally,what relevance does Ouma taking JT's punches have to do with anything? Ouma was stopped by Karmazin? Spinks was KTFO by Zab, a blown up 140 pounder? I'm not seeing the relevance.

And at first I thought it would be hard for him to find fights BUT hypothetically speaking,IF Cotto loses to Mosley,you can guarantee a Cotto-Margarito fight will happen at some point. If not,he can rematch Cintron,Judah etc. I really really really don't see why the heck he would or should move to 154.

No offence.

[Hughesd]

That loss to Williams did him a lot of damage IMO. None of the top fighters will bother with him unless he wins the rematch. Cotto, Mosely, Mayweather and Hatton (not strictly a welterweight I know) are way above him.

If you're saying Hatton is above Margarito'your points have lost all significance.

Im not trying to cause offence here, i like Tony honestly i do, but in this era of great welters Antonio is second tier.
He's a good fighter, he's got a lotta power and for an opponent to take him lightly would be a mistake, but he's not a Terminator. A guy of his size at welterweight should equate to a guy who can sharply end fights, not grind out wins. I no he's got a lot of stoppages but they were mainly attritional or rough house Ko's. (Again im not tryin to offfend!)

So it becomes apparent that he is good but not great. Therein lies his problem, he is active in an era where there are a number of fighters who can potentially achieve greatness. Fighters such as PBF, Cotto, Mosely and even Williams, these popular talented fighters will overshadow Margarito and he will be forgotten in the wake of their legacies.

Furthermore, it have been scrutinising for some time as to why Tony stays at Welter. Surely bigger money is accessible at Light Middle, what with the publics natural attraction to bigger fighters and the somewhat easier climb to the top. (Since Winky vacated the building n Oscar is inactive LM also needs a top fighter.) And Tony because of his height n size should surely be able for 154

Well...My hypothesis is that Margarito and his camp feel that he does not have sufficient POWER to be KO the campaigners at 154 nor does he have the adequate boxing skills to compensate for this lack of power.
Think of Kassim Ouma, Corey Spinks...they took JT's punches, u think they couldn't take Antonio Margarito's?

Once agin, i'm not tryin to disrespect any of Margarito's loyal followers or Him either, thats jus my opinion.

You can have your opinion but the going to 154 is a silly point.A really silly point. First all the big fights are at 147 and second what is he going to do at 154 when the better fighter are at 147?

Also,he earned his biggest payday thus far v Williams($1.25million if I remember correctly) and has become a draw of sorts where he fights.

Finally,what relevance does Ouma taking JT's punches have to do with anything? Ouma was stopped by Karmazin? Spinks was KTFO by Zab, a blown up 140 pounder? I'm not seeing the relevance.

And at first I thought it would be hard for him to find fights BUT hypothetically speaking,IF Cotto loses to Mosley,you can guarantee a Cotto-Margarito fight will happen at some point. If not,he can rematch Cintron,Judah etc. I really really really don't see why the heck he would or should move to 154.

No offence.

I meant Hatton is more of a draw than Margerito. Hatton is the one fighting Mayweather in a blockbuster fight while Tony will be sitting at home.

[donnydarkoIRL]

What i was referring to was the fact that Margarito at this stage of his career will never reach the upper echelon of the welterweight division again. The WW's is a hotbed of talent right now and there are plenty of those fighters capable of easily beating margarito. Yes he could make money but he would be making money getting beaten.

This would suggest that a move of division would be a good idea. And as there is no way in hell 5'10'' margarito is gonna make light welter Lm is the natural move. However, a move to LM.

The reason Kassim ouma and Corey spinks were mentioned in my post is because they are commonly viewed as LM's no? (Actually Spinks seems to be ranked in a few divisions at the moment!) These guys took a middleweights punches, Margarito hits them, they're not gonna get knocked out, Margarito can't hurt you then he's not likely to win as it doesn't take a boxing analyst to dewtermine Tony doesn't have the greatest skills in prizefighting. I was speaking hypothetically, under the context that Margarito were active in the LM's

[El Gamo]

What i was referring to was the fact that Margarito at this stage of his career will never reach the upper echelon of the welterweight division again. The WW's is a hotbed of talent right now and there are plenty of those fighters capable of easily beating margarito. Yes he could make money but he would be making money getting beaten.

This would suggest that a move of division would be a good idea. And as there is no way in hell 5'10'' margarito is gonna make light welter Lm is the natural move. However, a move to LM.

The reason Kassim ouma and Corey spinks were mentioned in my post is because they are commonly viewed as LM's no? (Actually Spinks seems to be ranked in a few divisions at the moment!) These guys took a middleweights punches, Margarito hits them, they're not gonna get knocked out, Margarito can't hurt you then he's not likely to win as it doesn't take a boxing analyst to dewtermine Tony doesn't have the greatest skills in prizefighting. I was speaking hypothetically, under the context that Margarito were active in the LM's

I'm not dealing with hypothetical situations here firstly and secondly,Margarito not beating the elite is your opinion. He has the style to beat Williams,and to give my other boy Cotto nightmares.He would beat Zab and would probably beat Kermit in a rematch. Mayweather is the only one I'd choose as a HOT favourite over Margarito. I question the amount of Margarito fights you've seen.

He's already beaten Cintron and Clottey who are top 10. He has the style to give anyone nightmares(tall,strong,superbly tough,powerful with great stamina). Like I said,I have zero idea where you are going with this.

[Mr140]

Hell i think Margarito has a good chance against Cotto because i don't think Cotto can knock Margarito out and Margarito i think can knock him out so i think he could beat Cotto and also beat Hatton Williams i would count margarito out but i think Mosley and Mayweather would win over him