Thats exactly what i said aswell if you scroll up Clottey was mile ahead on scorecards before he got DQ he would of won i don't even think Baldomir deep down thinks thats proper victory.Originally Posted by El Gamo
Thats exactly what i said aswell if you scroll up Clottey was mile ahead on scorecards before he got DQ he would of won i don't even think Baldomir deep down thinks thats proper victory.Originally Posted by El Gamo
Originally Posted by El Gamo
Sorry if I ruffle your feathers ladies, but................................
It doesn't really matter who WAS winning the fight, what matters is who WON the fight
All these Margarito lovers are out of their minds. The guy lost to Daniel Santos.
Santos is not a terrible fighter, but he isn't exactly a world class fighter. He's mediocre at best.
World class fighters (like some people think that Margarito is) do not lose to guys like Daniel Santos while they are in their supposed prime.
What's most funny about the Margarito lovers, is that before the Williams fight these same people were rambling on about how Paul Williams was just a prospect and hadn't done anything to deserve a shot at the great Antonio Margarito. Williams soundly beats Margarito and now these same people are saying that Williams is a world class fighter and Margarito put on a championship performance but lost to the future of the welterweight division. Face it, Margarito lost to a prospect (a pretty good one, though) Margarito was never a "champion," because he never fought a champion to get his WBO belt, he fought for it in a title eliminator. He defended it once against a decent opponent (Clottey) who was well on his way to beating Margarito before he broke his hand on Margarito's face (see Gamo, you can say that Clottey was beating Baldomir until the fight was stopped but it's the same thing as saying that Clottey was beating Margarito until he broke his hand on Colttey's face, so I guess you're theory works against you too...... unless you realize that it's more important who actually WON the fight)
As far as his big win over Cintron...............
If Cintron is so great, how come Judah is STILL ranked higher than him in the welterweight division
And Gamo, you're 115-113 scoring of the Williams fight is just as absurd as your thinking that Margarito is a world class fighter and only exposes how extremely biased you are when it comes to Margarito. That's almost as bad as the scoring in the Steve Forbes robbery.
How Zab is even ranked above anyone is what's really confusing. It will be funny if Zab gets in the ring with Margarito, then we'll see a severe beating. Maybe Tony isn't a world beater, but I'll bet anything he'll beat Zab like a schoolgirl. Hell, Baldomir even beat him. Margarito is Zab's worst nightmare, as Tony has intestinal fortitude and keeps coming; whereas Zab just freezes up and ends up being an Everlast punching bag. I am in agreement about Margarito/Clottey. Tony was getting owned up until Clottey broke his hand, but whether Clottey could have kept doing it the whole fight with constant pressure from Tony is something we won't ever know unless they rematch. Tony is known for being willing to take a pounding but winning fights just by wearing his opponents down. As far as Cintron, I can't stand the guy after watching him quit with Margarito. Losing is one thing, quitting is another. I'd like to see Cintron/Judah. Maybe after 5 rounds they'll just stand there and look at each other and both get dq'd.
Here's a futuristic RBR of Margarito/Judah, just for fun.
Rd.1 Zab takes the initiative
Rd.2 Zab still doing it
Rd.3 Zab takes a break to look at the crowd and taunt Tony
Rd.4 Zab isn't liking that Tony is still plodding forward and starts to get distressed, but still works off his great speed every now and then![]()
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Rd.5 Well here we go again with Zaband here comes Tony
In Zab's corner in between rounds
Rd.6 All Tony![]()
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In Zab's corner again
Rd.7 Zab's not feeling it anymorebut Tony is still
Rd.8 and it doesn't bode well for Judah, as the elevator seemed to get stuck between floorsbut Tony is still doing his thing
In Zab's corner Noel is getting peeved
Not to fear, as Rd. 9 brings this travesty to a halt. Tony laying hands down big time![]()
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Zab in la la landbut says he'll be back to fight again and be the true champ. He couldn't concentrate because Tony cheated by having his mariachi band play before the fight and it got in his head.
TKO in the 9th. This is just my attempt at predicting this fight, no offense intended. Please feel free to correct my prediction.
Originally Posted by LEGION
Here you go...............
http://www.thering-online.com/ringpages/ratings2.html
Unless you think that your rating system is superior to Ring Magazine's.........
I'll even admit that as of right now, Margarito should be ranked higher (one spot is fair) than Judah because Zab's lost so many fights lately. This will all change soon though, because Zab is coming back huge where as Margarito is well on his way out. But the ratings I just posted kind of shed some light on Margarito's epic victory over the world class Kermit Cintron, doesn't it?
I tell you Frozen, you have to be the most dedicated Judah fan in the world, amazing!! That man should hire you in some capacity for his camp. I hope you're right and he can come back strong, for yours and his sake. And hell, mine too, as I was a huge fan up until a couple of years ago. CC again for being a devoted dude.Originally Posted by frozensolid_702
cant waie to see zab again, him and mosley would be a great fight
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Its good to see Zab back.Zab can be a really good fighter but he will have to stay focus and don't worry about thing that don't contain to boxing. He really needs a better manager also a trainer.
You have to admire his willingness to get back into the fray, he obviously thinks he can get one more shot at it. Be it Margarito or whoever, i suspect it will be another chump though.
It's a shame that Oscar isn't as active as these long layoffs are hurting him at his age.
dude frozen, clean Judah's nut milk out of your eyes and see he's just an average fighter, who's always failed at the top level
Zab should fight Margarito on the Cotto Mosely undercard. That would make sense to me.
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