Why didnt Taylor take a knee??

**jman** · 09-30-2007 06:47 PM

[quote=Danny_G ]
I loved seeing Taylor laying in that corner like a garbage bag. That was joy, joy, joy.

Well, it seems that you run wild on this board without very many checking your chin, so I will. referring to taylor as a garbage bag shows no class on your part, danny you've got a big mouth

**sweet science** · 09-30-2007 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

The fight was very close. Maybe JT felt he could weather the storm and wouldn't concede a 10-8 9or worse) round.

Taylor had just started going down when the ref stepped in, this is a championship fight, and Taylor was not getting brutalized before the knockdown. As a result of these three factors together, the ref shouldn't have stepped in when he did. He should have let Taylor fall--again, as Taylor was already beginning to do--and then take it from there. Lennox Lewis suggested the same thing, in his own words.

**getupkid2004** · 09-30-2007 07:02 PM

dude jermain was out smoger stepped in at the perfect time

**BoxingGorilla** · 09-30-2007 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by ThePlatinumBoy

just watched the fight again i think it was a bit closer than i first thought but it was 1 hell of a fight and i hope they have a rematch

I had Taylor winning the fight, but was keeping score in my head and can't recall what rounds I gave who at this point.

**El Gamo** · 09-30-2007 08:24 PM

Taylor didn't take a knee because he was getting hammered on the ropes. It's hard to take a knee in the middle of eating a 8 punch combination1 Man,the way he fell,I was worried for a second that something had happened. He just collpased in a sitting position,the dude didn't even try to get up!

**BoxingGorilla** · 09-30-2007 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Taylor didn't take a knee because he was getting hammered on the ropes. It's hard to take a knee in the middle of eating a 8 punch combination

LOL when you try to take a knee under those conditions you always end up taking two knees.

**El Gamo** · 09-30-2007 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Taylor didn't take a knee because he was getting hammered on the ropes. It's hard to take a knee in the middle of eating a 8 punch combination

LOL when you try to take a knee under those conditions you always end up taking two knees.

LMAO

True BG.

**LEGION** · 09-30-2007 08:30 PM

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Taylor didn't take a knee because he was getting hammered on the ropes. It's hard to take a knee in the middle of eating a 8 punch combination1 Man,the way he fell,I was worried for a second that something had happened. He just collpased in a sitting position,the dude didn't even try to get up!

I was worried also, as it looked like a puppet getting the strings cut out from under him. Just motionless and didn't even attempt to grab the ropes or anything. Good call, as he would of gotten hurt if he somehow even managed to get up.

**Majesty** · 09-30-2007 08:32 PM

Originally Posted by Danny_G

That is a great question but I think only Taylor knows the answer to that one but..
One can only speculate and say maybe it was pride?
Taylor beat Pavlik in the Olympic trials of 2001. Taylor thought he was all that because he beat the LION of lions B-Hop. (IMO he did not beat B-Hop) anyway.. Maybe he thought he was not that hurt and thought he could shake it off. Had Taylor taken a knee, he would have shown weakness in a fight were he was supposedly dominating Pavlik, had him hurt, queering, out on his feet and down on the canvas in the second round.
I think Pride played a big factor. I am sure if he had to do it all over again, he would have taken the knee, who knows. I loved seeing Taylor laying in that corner like a garbage bag. That was joy, joy, joy.

I wear a suit! That makes me more of a champion than Kelly Pavlik.
"Jermain Taylor"

Although Taylor showed some heart, Kelly Pavlik showed tremendous heart and then some.

If you watch the fight again, you will see that when Kelly sees Taylor is hurt, Kelly shifts gears and lands one of two upper cuts that would seal the deal. The window of opportunity that Taylor had to take a knee was not long enough.

Who said Kelly was slow?

Fast enough to knock you out

Kelly reminds me of Cotto. You can hurt him but he comes back and taxes and waxes that azz.

It's comments like that, which will make Pavlik fans or even fans in general want to see Kelly get knocked out now just to see you quieted.

But you don't annoy me THAT much, but you're not helping Pavlik with comments like that

**El Gamo** · 09-30-2007 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by Danny_G

That is a great question but I think only Taylor knows the answer to that one but..
One can only speculate and say maybe it was pride?
Taylor beat Pavlik in the Olympic trials of 2001. Taylor thought he was all that because he beat the LION of lions B-Hop. (IMO he did not beat B-Hop) anyway.. Maybe he thought he was not that hurt and thought he could shake it off. Had Taylor taken a knee, he would have shown weakness in a fight were he was supposedly dominating Pavlik, had him hurt, queering, out on his feet and down on the canvas in the second round.
I think Pride played a big factor. I am sure if he had to do it all over again, he would have taken the knee, who knows. I loved seeing Taylor laying in that corner like a garbage bag. That was joy, joy, joy.

I wear a suit! That makes me more of a champion than Kelly Pavlik.
"Jermain Taylor"

Although Taylor showed some heart, Kelly Pavlik showed tremendous heart and then some.

If you watch the fight again, you will see that when Kelly sees Taylor is hurt, Kelly shifts gears and lands one of two upper cuts that would seal the deal. The window of opportunity that Taylor had to take a knee was not long enough.

Who said Kelly was slow?

Fast enough to knock you out

Kelly reminds me of Cotto. You can hurt him but he comes back and taxes and waxes that azz.

It's comments like that, which will make Pavlik fans or even fans in general want to see Kelly get knocked out now just to see you quieted.

But you don't annoy me THAT much, but you're not helping Pavlik with comments like that

I think people that chose Pavlik have a right to gloat in light of remarks along these lines from Taylor and his camp:

Pavlik is average.
We beat him in the amateurs,it will be easy.
This is an easy fight
And the best one(amongst amny I didn't mention)-Steward:"this will be a tough fight....for 1 round"

When a guy and his camp make claims such as those and get KTFO by a humble,strong as an on kid,of course his fans are going to gloat. If you're going to open your mouth,back it up.JT didn't.

**slk123** · 09-30-2007 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by sweet science

Originally Posted by Sugar_Shaw

The fight was very close. Maybe JT felt he could weather the storm and wouldn't concede a 10-8 9or worse) round.

Taylor had just started going down when the ref stepped in, this is a championship fight, and Taylor was not getting brutalized before the knockdown. As a result of these three factors together, the ref shouldn't have stepped in when he did. He should have let Taylor fall--again, as Taylor was already beginning to do--and then take it from there. Lennox Lewis suggested the same thing, in his own words.

Smoger stepped in not as he started to go down, but only when Taylor's hands and his head dropped significantly. Rewatch the fight in slow-mo, right before the ultimate end. A left cross gets JT to start to wilt and Smoger gets in close but doesn't stop it, then, Pavlik lands another left hook and Taylors hands just drop along with his head.

I have rewound and watched Taylor's reaction when the camera is on him and he is still on the floor. I could swear he says "did I get knocked out?" Smoger did the right thing.

**Majesty** · 09-30-2007 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by Danny_G

That is a great question but I think only Taylor knows the answer to that one but..
One can only speculate and say maybe it was pride?
Taylor beat Pavlik in the Olympic trials of 2001. Taylor thought he was all that because he beat the LION of lions B-Hop. (IMO he did not beat B-Hop) anyway.. Maybe he thought he was not that hurt and thought he could shake it off. Had Taylor taken a knee, he would have shown weakness in a fight were he was supposedly dominating Pavlik, had him hurt, queering, out on his feet and down on the canvas in the second round.
I think Pride played a big factor. I am sure if he had to do it all over again, he would have taken the knee, who knows. I loved seeing Taylor laying in that corner like a garbage bag. That was joy, joy, joy.

I wear a suit! That makes me more of a champion than Kelly Pavlik.
"Jermain Taylor"

Although Taylor showed some heart, Kelly Pavlik showed tremendous heart and then some.

If you watch the fight again, you will see that when Kelly sees Taylor is hurt, Kelly shifts gears and lands one of two upper cuts that would seal the deal. The window of opportunity that Taylor had to take a knee was not long enough.

Who said Kelly was slow?

Fast enough to knock you out

Kelly reminds me of Cotto. You can hurt him but he comes back and taxes and waxes that azz.

It's comments like that, which will make Pavlik fans or even fans in general want to see Kelly get knocked out now just to see you quieted.

But you don't annoy me THAT much, but you're not helping Pavlik with comments like that

I think people that chose Pavlik have a right to gloat in light of remarks along these lines from Taylor and his camp:

Pavlik is average.
We beat him in the amateurs,it will be easy.
This is an easy fight
And the best one(amongst amny I didn't mention)-Steward:"this will be a tough fight....for 1 round"

When a guy and his camp make claims such as those and get KTFO by a humble,strong as an on kid,of course his fans are going to gloat. If you're going to open your mouth,back it up.JT didn't.

Oh I don't have a problem with gloating.

But let's not forget Danny_G was the one who posted the Pavlik "Don't believe the hype" picture

Pavlik now beats Taylor and he's all over him. Remember that Jetson?

**getupkid2004** · 09-30-2007 08:41 PM

geez I'm gonna rewatch it and look for it... he looked real bad when he was slouched in the corner

**El Gamo** · 09-30-2007 08:42 PM

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by El Gamo

Originally Posted by Majesty

Originally Posted by Danny_G

That is a great question but I think only Taylor knows the answer to that one but..
One can only speculate and say maybe it was pride?
Taylor beat Pavlik in the Olympic trials of 2001. Taylor thought he was all that because he beat the LION of lions B-Hop. (IMO he did not beat B-Hop) anyway.. Maybe he thought he was not that hurt and thought he could shake it off. Had Taylor taken a knee, he would have shown weakness in a fight were he was supposedly dominating Pavlik, had him hurt, queering, out on his feet and down on the canvas in the second round.
I think Pride played a big factor. I am sure if he had to do it all over again, he would have taken the knee, who knows. I loved seeing Taylor laying in that corner like a garbage bag. That was joy, joy, joy.

I wear a suit! That makes me more of a champion than Kelly Pavlik.
"Jermain Taylor"

Although Taylor showed some heart, Kelly Pavlik showed tremendous heart and then some.

If you watch the fight again, you will see that when Kelly sees Taylor is hurt, Kelly shifts gears and lands one of two upper cuts that would seal the deal. The window of opportunity that Taylor had to take a knee was not long enough.

Who said Kelly was slow?

Fast enough to knock you out

Kelly reminds me of Cotto. You can hurt him but he comes back and taxes and waxes that azz.

It's comments like that, which will make Pavlik fans or even fans in general want to see Kelly get knocked out now just to see you quieted.

But you don't annoy me THAT much, but you're not helping Pavlik with comments like that

I think people that chose Pavlik have a right to gloat in light of remarks along these lines from Taylor and his camp:

Pavlik is average.
We beat him in the amateurs,it will be easy.
This is an easy fight
And the best one(amongst amny I didn't mention)-Steward:"this will be a tough fight....for 1 round"

When a guy and his camp make claims such as those and get KTFO by a humble,strong as an on kid,of course his fans are going to gloat. If you're going to open your mouth,back it up.JT didn't.

Oh I don't have a problem with gloating.

But let's not forget Danny_G was the one who posted the Pavlik "Don't believe the hype" picture

Pavlik now beats Taylor and he's all over him. Remember that Jetson?

Hmmmm....I do recall Danny was not too hot on Kelly UNTIL Kelly wiped the floor with Edison, if I remember correctly.Hey,usually,I would not gloat either,it's not my style BUT JT had a big mouth before this fight. Although this is far as I go,no vids for me!

**Majesty** · 09-30-2007 08:44 PM