REMATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[leftylee]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

Taylor never got the KO because he never had the Power and Pavlik did.

[Julius Rain]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

eric, this is what im saying too. why do fans have to bad mouth the one that lost, honestly they both can k.o eachother and they showed that last night. fortunetly for pavlik his the bigger stronger fighter. i remember castillo chico too, its both guys having power that can end the fight at any moment.

[Julius Rain]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

Taylor never got the KO because he never had the Power and Pavlik did.

so it wasn't power that got pavlik hurt and almost out in the second round?

[LEGION]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

eric, this is what im saying too. why do fans have to bad mouth the one that lost, honestly they both can k.o eachother and they showed that last night. fortunetly for pavlik his the bigger stronger fighter. i remember castillo chico too, its both guys having power that can end the fight at any moment.

I agree, and these are the type fights we beg for. I am a fan of both fighters and respect to both. But I wonder how it would have been had Kelly lost. I know a couple of b#tches on here that never would have shut up about it had PavMan lost last night. So I guess some want to rub it in cause' they can.

[leftylee]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

Taylor never got the KO because he never had the Power and Pavlik did.

so it wasn't power that got pavlik hurt and almost out in the second round?

bro ALMOST you said obviousley he's got power but not KO power Kelly was out of it and one big shot and he would of been knocked out but Taylor hasn't got the ability to do deliver that like he could not against Cory Spinks a light-middle who Zab destroyed and kelly has like agaist Miranda, that was the difference.

[ElTerribleMorales]

i'm gonna say this the nicest way possible lee...........you're talking out your ass, Taylor didn't finish him off cause of wasting punches, not cause he didn't have the power to do so, see it's people like you and Danny that make people get annoyed with certain outcomes of fights, and i wasn't even really going for either fighter

[leftylee]

i'm gonna say this the nicest way possible lee...........you're talking out your a**, Taylor didn't finish him off cause of wasting punches, not cause he didn't have the power to do so, see it's people like you and Danny that make people get annoyed with certain outcomes of fights, and i wasn't even really going for either fighter

wasting punches. HE HASN'T GOT THE KO POWER GOSH WATCH THE FIGHT AGAIN AND WHAT WAS THE MAIN DIFFERENCE IN THE 2ND ROUND AND THE 7TH, PAVLIK HAD THE POWER AND JERMAIN NEVER

[Mad_Dog]

I do not think Taylor was a disgrace. I thought the fight was pretty even going into the 7th. PLus I felt that Taylor had a bit of the edge on the power. He was explosive. I think, when you have two guys so evenly matched like that, it takes one little thing to make all the difference in the fight. THat difference in my opinion was Pavlik's discipline and poise. Taylor went crazy when he had Pavlik hurt, he did not land as solid to put him away. Pavlik on the other hand kept his cool and finished the fight in dramatic fashion.

[Mad_Dog]

lefty, if taylor did not have the power, then how in the heck did he manage to hurt Pavlik so badly? He has the combination of power and speed, he just does not have the discipline I think. He gets to sloppy sometimes IMO.

[ElTerribleMorales]

you know you're not helping Pavlik either, well if Taylor has no power, Pavlik has a shitty chin because he looked like a baby crawling on the floor when he was battered in the 2nd, and i don't even think that, Taylor had Pavlik OUT, and cause of being too anxious he didn't finish him off, a rematch is a sure thing

[Majesty]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

Taylor never got the KO because he never had the Power and Pavlik did.

so it wasn't power that got pavlik hurt and almost out in the second round?

bro ALMOST you said obviousley he's got power but not KO power Kelly was out of it and one big shot and he would of been knocked out but Taylor hasn't got the ability to do deliver that like he could not against Cory Spinks a light-middle who Zab destroyed and kelly has like agaist Miranda, that was the difference.

He had the knockout power, just not the patience or craft. I think Taylor was right in his assessment after the fight that if he hadn't been wild and was throwing uppercuts instead that he would have stopped him.

Pavlik is open for uppercuts whenever he corners someone. But I don't think I've ever seen Taylor throw an uppercut in his career, just jab left hook right hook and right hand never an uppercut, maybe once in the fight with Ouma.

But if Taylor wants to win the rematch the uppercut and jab are key.

But Pavlik's gameplan seemed to be to walk Taylor down once he faded(which is what happened) he can't depend on Taylor shooting hos load in the rematch, especially after he just knocked him out, if anything Taylor would be less reckless.
Pavlik was open for uppercuts whenever he cornered Taylor, but I don't think UI

[SigmaMu]

i'm gonna say this the nicest way possible lee...........you're talking out your ass, Taylor didn't finish him off cause of wasting punches, not cause he didn't have the power to do so, see it's people like you and Danny that make people get annoyed with certain outcomes of fights, and i wasn't even really going for either fighter

If you get annoyed that is on you.

I guess what Lee is saying does make some sense to a certain degree.

Kelly has the power. Kelly landed two right hands the first right hand sent Taylor back and to the ropes. The second right hand sent Taylor to the corner and Kelly shifted a gear walked in and began to take his time finding his money shots.

Taylor wasted everything he had and was still unable to knock out Pavlik. How many times did Taylor hit Pavlik? More than 6? At least and all power shots and the knock out still did not come so therefore, Lee is right about saying Taylor did not have the power. Not only did he not have the power, he did not have the patience and either way, Pavlik would have got away and survived if Taylor would have taken his time because Taylor did not have enough power. So Lee's point makes sense.

How do you like them apples little terrible morales person. lol

La pequena Morales

[leftylee]

you know you're not helping Pavlik either, well if Taylor has no power, Pavlik has a shitty chin because he looked like a baby crawling on the floor when he was battered in the 2nd, and i don't even think that, Taylor had Pavlik OUT, and cause of being too anxious he didn't finish him off, a rematch is a sure thing

Bro Pavlik got up immediately he took like a 1 count, and he couldn't of had him OUT because he never finished him off he allowed Pavlik back into the fight and ultimately to KO him and how's that a shitty chin he got dropped yeh but came back to KO him in a magnificant fashion and he easily took the 3rd round after getting dropped in the previous round so that does not seem like a shitty chin to me. IMO I don't think he was too anxious as why would he be too anxious when one clean shot and your opponent would be out, you would go all guns blazing as ultimately if that happened the Ref would have to stop the fight as Taylor would throw punches in bunches and they were connecting with Pavlik and he was throwing nothing back.

Hopefully there is a rematch so Pavlik will prove me right AGAIN and if there is a rematch ElTerribleMorrales me an you can have a personal bet with the loser having to mention the winner on the personal text saying he was spot on or something.

You up for it??

By the Way Mad-Dog he couldn't of hurt him that bad as he got up IMMEDIATELY and stayed on his feet for the rest of the round which was a good minute and a half if I can remember correctly. But you are right Taylor is sloppy and any other half-decent fighter would have put Pavlik to sleep.

But aren't you happy for Kelly a determined, hungry exciting new champ instead of boring Taylor which probbably is correct in saying boring

[Julius Rain]

simply put, great fight between the divisions best, and one outworked the other in the end, imo Pavlik earned his win, but the stoppage was a little early, again i don't see why the ref couldn't have issued a standing 8 count?, seriously Taylor didn't look all that hurt after the fight, i'm not saying Pavlik wouldn't have stopped him but you never know if Taylor could have come back and won it also, in a rematch i'd say again it's a 50/50 scenario because they already both proved that they're both vulnerable to each others power, Taylor didn't get his KO basically the same way that Castillo didn't get his KO over Corrales, he got too anxious and let his chance slip, Castillo was careless and got caught, Taylor was too eager and used too much energy and let the moment go, both can beat each other, so both deserve equal respect

Taylor never got the KO because he never had the Power and Pavlik did.

so it wasn't power that got pavlik hurt and almost out in the second round?

bro ALMOST you said obviousley he's got power but not KO power Kelly was out of it and one big shot and he would of been knocked out but Taylor hasn't got the ability to do deliver that like he could not against Cory Spinks a light-middle who Zab destroyed and kelly has like agaist Miranda, that was the difference.

I won't argue, pavlik beat the best j.t we haven't seen for a long while. But you have to understand, if j.t would of just uppercut pavlik it could of been over. it isn't a debate about if he had k.o power its a matter of the punches he threw. Pavlik threw the right punches to finish it and j.t didn't, the point is both of them has the power to k.o eachother.

[southakron314]

SO i was wrong, I thought j.t would win a u.d but i had told people that this fight should of been build up a lot more becuase i knew this was going to be a GREAT ONE. And it turned out one of my favorite middleweight fights.

I couldn't believe the "bad intention" came out of j.t from the get go, he had pavlik hurt bad and almost out. Then I couldn't believe, pavlik caught j.t with a huge punch. There has got to be a rematch, pavlik i think beat the j.t we have all been waiting for. After the six I said out load that j.t was back the bad intention has come back out of him, but the following round pavlik caught and stopped him.

If pavlik can k.o j.t he can k.o anyone. I hope we seen a rematch right away becuase i think these two may make a GREAT MIDDLEWEIGHT TRILOGY. I just hope its not up in 168lbs, pavlik is already too big and strong for j.t so moving up wouldn't be a good idea for the rematch.

I wonder how they will be treating j.t in little rock after this fight, hopefully j.t will be ok and come back stronger.

Pavlik hydrated and with food in his belly is not such a good idea. I cant wait till a few years when Pavlik moves up and puts on 8-12 pounds of muscle. That is scary. Im a pretty big guy and I can bench 305. In his video he was flipping 615lb tires over and over. He might be the tallest skinniest strong guy I have ever scene in the ring if he can flip those tires like that. J>T would be better fighting him at 160 again.