Sergio Mora & Alfonso Gomez make weight & are back in action Tuesday night.

[Wacko3205]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

I'll let you fish around on Youtube or wherever for video's. If you could'nt deduce from his attitude in the ring & outside of it during the Contender that "the Latin Snake" wasn't a total douche bag...well then your'e just to short to see the length of his ass-holish-ness.

The guy's a jerk...but I like him as a fighter...he's just an asshole.

Period. Besides his personality...I like the guy but when he was on the Contender the way that he acted was that of a total twot.

If you had to deal with him...no matter what you say...you'd think the same thing.

[CutMeMick]

I read thru some of the posts here not sure if this has been mentioned or maybe I'm just clarifying it here incase some people don't know.

The Gomez vs. Tackie fight will be shown on ESPN once that fight is over the telecast will continue on ESPNClassic.

[Kev]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

I'll let you fish around on Youtube or wherever for video's. If you could'nt deduce from his attitude in the ring & outside of it during the Contender that "the Latin Snake" wasn't a total douche bag...well then your'e just to short to see the length of his a**-holish-ness.

The guy's a jerk...but I like him as a fighter...he's just an asshole.

Period. Besides his personality...I like the guy but when he was on the Contender the way that he acted was that of a total twot.

If you had to deal with him...no matter what you say...you'd think the same thing.

Ok but give me an example then? He stayed out of the house arguments and got on with his thing. What did he say or do that pissed you off so much?

[Wacko3205]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

I'll let you fish around on Youtube or wherever for video's. If you could'nt deduce from his attitude in the ring & outside of it during the Contender that "the Latin Snake" wasn't a total douche bag...well then your'e just to short to see the length of his a**-holish-ness.

The guy's a jerk...but I like him as a fighter...he's just an asshole.

Period. Besides his personality...I like the guy but when he was on the Contender the way that he acted was that of a total twot.

If you had to deal with him...no matter what you say...you'd think the same thing.

Ok but give me an example then? He stayed out of the house arguments and got on with his thing. What did he say or do that pissed you off so much?

It would be tuff on me to back through the Contender & bring out every little thing that he said that bothered me...if I did that...tried to fish around for things that he said out of the way...randomly...I'd have a hard time pulling it out of the air...just because we don't agree on the fact that they guy's an asshole & we don't like the same fighter...I need to bring up the exact thing that he said to give myself cred or back up?

I can't just dislike the guy on the basis that I think he acts like a tool on a general basis? If it were a fighter that you disliked also...would I still need to back my feelings up with a quote or a video clip?

You know that the guy acted like a tool on the show...I aint the only one that feels this way.

I like him as a fighter...but his attitude in the ring...the mouthing off...the show boating bullshit...I don't like. I don't feel like I have to provide just cause for this...not just for you. I that were the case I'd have to back up everything that I said about Floyd, Hopkins, & many others that I like...some that are my favorites.

[Kev]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

I'll let you fish around on Youtube or wherever for video's. If you could'nt deduce from his attitude in the ring & outside of it during the Contender that "the Latin Snake" wasn't a total douche bag...well then your'e just to short to see the length of his a**-holish-ness.

The guy's a jerk...but I like him as a fighter...he's just an asshole.

Period. Besides his personality...I like the guy but when he was on the Contender the way that he acted was that of a total twot.

If you had to deal with him...no matter what you say...you'd think the same thing.

Ok but give me an example then? He stayed out of the house arguments and got on with his thing. What did he say or do that pissed you off so much?

It would be tuff on me to back through the Contender & bring out every little thing that he said that bothered me...if I did that...tried to fish around for things that he said out of the way...randomly...I'd have a hard time pulling it out of the air...just because we don't agree on the fact that they guy's an asshole & we don't like the same fighter...I need to bring up the exact thing that he said to give myself cred or back up?

I can't just dislike the guy on the basis that I think he acts like a tool on a general basis? If it were a fighter that you disliked also...would I still need to back my feelings up with a quote or a video clip?

You know that the guy acted like a tool on the show...I aint the only one that feels this way.

I like him as a fighter...but his attitude in the ring...the mouthing off...the show boating bullshit...I don't like. I don't feel like I have to provide just cause for this...not just for you. I that were the case I'd have to back up everything that I said about Floyd, Hopkins, & many others that I like...some that are my favorites.

I'm not trying to argue with you for the sake of arguing but I could give examples for any fighter I dislike. Take Zab Judah for example, the mouth on him is unbelievable, and everyone could bring up numerous examples of bad behaviour inside and outside the ring, same thing with Floyd Mayweather, James Toney, Ricardo Mayorga etc.

But Mora to my knowledge at least hasn't done anything like that. I think people just dislike him because they don't like the way he looks or something

[Julius Rain]

Mora carries himself around like his bigger then anyone just becuase he won the first contender doesn't make him a legend. People thinks he doesn't know that becuase yea he acts like his in the same level as Leonard just cause he hangs with him. In Realtiy mora isn't any good, so is gomez. Its all fine and dandy to have dreams of being the best but they appear to carry themselves like they've already achieve something great but really they haven't done shyt.

[SigmaMu]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

There are no videos of Sergio talking shiet. Those that have gotten to know me, know I appreciate Sergio.
Anyone who hates Sergio was a fan of some other Contender on the show. That's the truth nothing more and nothing less. What is so funny is that I think El Gamo has never even seen the Contender and he does not like Sergio Mora. (How can you not like some one you don't even know anything about?) Sergio is nothing like Malignaggi in the rude, big mouth dept. Sergio has always tried to be respectful and the only time he might talk shiet is when some one talks shiet to him first. That Manfredo Sr incindent in the corner was Manfredo Sr and Cousin Robbie's fault. They kept talking shiet to Sergio while they were in the corner calling Sergio a punk etc. And Sergio just told them watch this! And he laid the smack down on Manfredo Jr.
I repeat, any one who hates Mora, hates him because he beat Manfredo Jr. 3 times. If you hate Mora, you are a Manfredo fan. Cut and dry plain and simple!... or unless you are just a hater with out any foundation. Sort of odd people who don't know him, don't like him.? Sounds like closet Contender fans to me.

Sergio was smart not fighting Jermain. I hate to say it but no one can get a win over Jermain unless you knock him out. The judges all had Jermain Taylor ahead on their score cards vs Pavlik. I had the fight very close and if anything, I had Pavlik up by one.

Manfredo might get credit for going all the way to Wales to face Calzaghe but that is all he did. (Where is the honor in this? Did not deserve this title shot niether) Notice I said face because he never faught. Manfredo threw about 15 punches in totality in the entire 3 rounds. That was not a fight. He did not go to win. He just went to try and survive and then later just be able to say that he was in the ring with a great fighter such as Calzaghe. I hate Manfredo and his fans. Manfredo Jr is a bigger hypocrite and even a bigger hater than I am. So are his fans. Manfredo is a nasty yuk mouth yellow tooth islander

[SigmaMu]

Gomez, Mora make weight!

Monday, October 15 2007
http://www.fightnews.com/fightnews_2...EkVuwGuEJ.html

Alfonso Gomez 148 vs Ben Tackie 148
Sergio Mora 160 vs Elvin Ayala 159.25
Freddy Curiel 151.5 vs Fontaine Cabell 152
Ernest Johnson 140 vs Arthur Brambila 140


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Venue: Home Depot Center, Carson, California
Promoter: The Contender
TV: ESPN Classic 9PM/ESPN 10PM
Tickets: Available at www.Ticketmaster.com or at the Home Depot Center Box Office

For the Record Wacky, Wacky.

And this sucks and it makes no sense.

Both Mora and Gomez are fighting on the same card, right? Right!
Both fights are in the same venue, right? Right!
Both fights will not be on the same channel.
Mora's fight will be shown first on ESPN Classic at 7 on the west coast and then instead of showing the Contender 3 episode 7 on ESPN, they are going to show the Alfonso Gomez fight right after. Does this make sense? The Contender people are about as dumb as a bag of rocks. They are always screwing shiet up. The word is, they can not even give away tickects to this event. How embarrassing!

[Kev]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

There are no videos of Sergio talking shiet. Those that have gotten to know me, know I appreciate Sergio.
Anyone who hates Sergio was a fan of some other Contender on the show. That's the truth nothing more and nothing less. What is so funny is that I think El Gamo has never even seen the Contender and he does not like Sergio Mora. (How can you not like some one you don't even know anything about?) Sergio is nothing like Malignaggi in the rude, big mouth dept. Sergio has always tried to be respectful and the only time he might talk shiet is when some one talks shiet to him first. That Manfredo Sr incindent in the corner was Manfredo Sr and Cousin Robbie's fault. They kept talking shiet to Sergio while they were in the corner calling Sergio a punk etc. And Sergio just told them watch this! And he laid the smack down on Manfredo Jr.
I repeat, any one who hates Mora, hates him because he beat Manfredo Jr. 3 times. If you hate Mora, you are a Manfredo fan. Cut and dry plain and simple!... or unless you are just a hater with out any foundation. Sort of odd people who don't know him, don't like him.? Sounds like closet Contender fans to me.

Sergio was smart not fighting Jermain. I hate to say it but no one can get a win over Jermain unless you knock him out. The judges all had Jermain Taylor ahead on their score cards vs Pavlik. I had the fight very close and if anything, I had Pavlik up by one.

Manfredo might get credit for going all the way to Wales to face Calzaghe but that is all he did. (Where is the honor in this? Did not deserve this title shot niether) Notice I said face because he never faught. Manfredo threw about 15 punches in totality in the entire 3 rounds. That was not a fight. He did not go to win. He just went to try and survive and then later just be able to say that he was in the ring with a great fighter such as Calzaghe. I hate Manfredo and his fans. Manfredo Jr is a bigger hypocrite and even a bigger hater than I am. So are his fans. Manfredo is a nasty yuk mouth yellow tooth islander

buddy it's you and me against the world baby!

I'm not against Manfredo though, I do like the kid, he's a tryer you know, fight anyone anywhere kind of fighter. Plus he's a quiet goofy kid with a gorgeous little girl and a cute wife whose his rock. I think it's easier to relate to Manfredo as he's the classic boy next door. I also think that as a result of that he was given preference on the original show and certainly afterwards by the Contender people who clearly recognised that along with Alfonso Gomez he is the most marketable of all the Contenders.

On that point has it suprised people how much they have tried their best to just act as if the second series never existed?

In this third series Mora is next to Leonard at virtually every fight, both he, Alfonso and Peter have made guest appearances on the show, as they did on the second series but the 2nd round fighters have just been treated as if they don't exist!

Only Forbes has been seen, to promote his fight with Bojado, Grady Brewer seems to have done a Lord Lucan a disappeared off the face of the earth!

I get the feeling that the Contender people themselves feel (probably along with many fans) that the first series is the ONLY real Contender series and always will be.

All subsequent series have been and doubtless will be nothing more than spin offs, like Angel was to Buffy or Joey was to Friends.

[SigmaMu]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

I'll let you fish around on Youtube or wherever for video's. If you could'nt deduce from his attitude in the ring & outside of it during the Contender that "the Latin Snake" wasn't a total douche bag...well then your'e just to short to see the length of his a**-holish-ness.

The guy's a jerk...but I like him as a fighter...he's just an asshole.

Period. Besides his personality...I like the guy but when he was on the Contender the way that he acted was that of a total twot.

If you had to deal with him...no matter what you say...you'd think the same thing.

Ok but give me an example then? He stayed out of the house arguments and got on with his thing. What did he say or do that pissed you off so much?

It would be tuff on me to back through the Contender & bring out every little thing that he said that bothered me...if I did that...tried to fish around for things that he said out of the way...randomly...I'd have a hard time pulling it out of the air...just because we don't agree on the fact that they guy's an asshole & we don't like the same fighter...I need to bring up the exact thing that he said to give myself cred or back up?

I can't just dislike the guy on the basis that I think he acts like a tool on a general basis? If it were a fighter that you disliked also...would I still need to back my feelings up with a quote or a video clip?

You know that the guy acted like a tool on the show...I aint the only one that feels this way.

I like him as a fighter...but his attitude in the ring...the mouthing off...the show boating bullshit...I don't like. I don't feel like I have to provide just cause for this...not just for you. I that were the case I'd have to back up everything that I said about Floyd, Hopkins, & many others that I like...some that are my favorites.

I'm not trying to argue with you for the sake of arguing but I could give examples for any fighter I dislike. Take Zab Judah for example, the mouth on him is unbelievable, and everyone could bring up numerous examples of bad behaviour inside and outside the ring, same thing with Floyd Mayweather, James Toney, Ricardo Mayorga etc.

But Mora to my knowledge at least hasn't done anything like that. I think people just dislike him because they don't like the way he looks or something

LMAO!

I guess you told him.
Now he is fumbling around saying he would have to look for something etc that he does not remember why he hates him blah blah blah.
HAHAHA!
Sit down Wacky!
BTW great examples Bilbo of people who we know are ass holes and we can post a grip of videos of them talking out the side of their arse and or doing something stupid or acting in a way that is inappropriate. But when it comes to Mora, they suddenly get selective Amnesia. How convenient. lol

[SigmaMu]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

There are no videos of Sergio talking shiet. Those that have gotten to know me, know I appreciate Sergio.
Anyone who hates Sergio was a fan of some other Contender on the show. That's the truth nothing more and nothing less. What is so funny is that I think El Gamo has never even seen the Contender and he does not like Sergio Mora. (How can you not like some one you don't even know anything about?) Sergio is nothing like Malignaggi in the rude, big mouth dept. Sergio has always tried to be respectful and the only time he might talk shiet is when some one talks shiet to him first. That Manfredo Sr incindent in the corner was Manfredo Sr and Cousin Robbie's fault. They kept talking shiet to Sergio while they were in the corner calling Sergio a punk etc. And Sergio just told them watch this! And he laid the smack down on Manfredo Jr.
I repeat, any one who hates Mora, hates him because he beat Manfredo Jr. 3 times. If you hate Mora, you are a Manfredo fan. Cut and dry plain and simple!... or unless you are just a hater with out any foundation. Sort of odd people who don't know him, don't like him.? Sounds like closet Contender fans to me.

Sergio was smart not fighting Jermain. I hate to say it but no one can get a win over Jermain unless you knock him out. The judges all had Jermain Taylor ahead on their score cards vs Pavlik. I had the fight very close and if anything, I had Pavlik up by one.

Manfredo might get credit for going all the way to Wales to face Calzaghe but that is all he did. (Where is the honor in this? Did not deserve this title shot niether) Notice I said face because he never faught. Manfredo threw about 15 punches in totality in the entire 3 rounds. That was not a fight. He did not go to win. He just went to try and survive and then later just be able to say that he was in the ring with a great fighter such as Calzaghe. I hate Manfredo and his fans. Manfredo Jr is a bigger hypocrite and even a bigger hater than I am. So are his fans. Manfredo is a nasty yuk mouth yellow tooth islander

buddy it's you and me against the world baby!

I'm not against Manfredo though, I do like the kid, he's a tryer you know, fight anyone anywhere kind of fighter. Plus he's a quiet goofy kid with a gorgeous little girl and a cute wife whose his rock. I think it's easier to relate to Manfredo as he's the classic boy next door. I also think that as a result of that he was given preference on the original show and certainly afterwards by the Contender people who clearly recognised that along with Alfonso Gomez he is the most marketable of all the Contenders.

On that point has it suprised people how much they have tried their best to just act as if the second series never existed?

In this third series Mora is next to Leonard at virtually every fight, both he, Alfonso and Peter have made guest appearances on the show, as they did on the second series but the 2nd round fighters have just been treated as if they don't exist!

Only Forbes has been seen, to promote his fight with Bojado, Grady Brewer seems to have done a Lord Lucan a disappeared off the face of the earth!

I get the feeling that the Contender people themselves feel (probably along with many fans) that the first series is the ONLY real Contender series and always will be.

All subsequent series have been and doubtless will be nothing more than spin offs, like Angel was to Buffy or Joey was to Friends.

I can't argue with a lot of what you said. You touched on way too many issues.
I don't like Manfredo because he did not accept to fight Mora for a third time in Rhode Island. At the post fight conference Mora told Peter that if he felt so strong about the whole thing, that he would fight him again in Rhode Island and Peter did not know what to say. Freddie Roach had to lean into his ear and tell him what to say. And what was his reponse? Of all things he tells Sergio to kiss him while Sergio is phuking him, because Peter said he loved being kissed when some one was phuking him. What kind of response is that? You cry, cry, cry, saying you got robbed, you get a chance to fight him again to try and redeem your self and what do you do? You pee. There was an article posted today in which Manfredo is still talking shiet about that fight. All he had to do was say sure, I will fight you again in Rhode Island and that might have settled things a little better. IMO. I think even B-Hop has moved on and I think he was robbed twice. I am not saying Manfredo was robbed, I say Manfredo robbed himself by not destroying the soft hitter from LA.

[Kev]

I really like Gomez he is very exciting fighter i wish him the best.

See...now I'm just the opposite.

I like Mora (not as a person) in the ring. He's got game & he can put his punches together...but he needs to be humbled.

He got 1million dollars and a fake title for beating 4 journeymen(i really hesitate to put this slash but i suppose it is necessary)/fringe "contenders" . There's people in legit title matches against legit opposition that don't make that much. How can you be down to earth after that?

Who said I wanted him to be down to earth? I know plenty of people with money that aren't assholes. I just think that a loss would bring him "down to earth" in terms of his attitude inside the ring...he can be a total douche bag outside of the ring once he get's his a** handed to him...if it changes him inside the ring & brings him closer to focus...I'll be just fine with that.

What attitude? Post a vid or a quote from him showing us all what an arrogant asshole he is?

He's no different from any fighter, actually much nicer than most. He gave Manfredo massive props when he fought Scott Pemberton at which he was ringside saying that Manfredo fought like King Kong that night. Contrast that with Peter Mafrendo who guest commentated on ESPN when Mora fought Regan and Manfredo just kept putting Sergio down.

But like I say, if you think he's arrogant or needs humbling post a vid of him at his arrogant worst

I'll let you fish around on Youtube or wherever for video's. If you could'nt deduce from his attitude in the ring & outside of it during the Contender that "the Latin Snake" wasn't a total douche bag...well then your'e just to short to see the length of his a**-holish-ness.

The guy's a jerk...but I like him as a fighter...he's just an asshole.

Period. Besides his personality...I like the guy but when he was on the Contender the way that he acted was that of a total twot.

If you had to deal with him...no matter what you say...you'd think the same thing.

Ok but give me an example then? He stayed out of the house arguments and got on with his thing. What did he say or do that pissed you off so much?

It would be tuff on me to back through the Contender & bring out every little thing that he said that bothered me...if I did that...tried to fish around for things that he said out of the way...randomly...I'd have a hard time pulling it out of the air...just because we don't agree on the fact that they guy's an asshole & we don't like the same fighter...I need to bring up the exact thing that he said to give myself cred or back up?

I can't just dislike the guy on the basis that I think he acts like a tool on a general basis? If it were a fighter that you disliked also...would I still need to back my feelings up with a quote or a video clip?

You know that the guy acted like a tool on the show...I aint the only one that feels this way.

I like him as a fighter...but his attitude in the ring...the mouthing off...the show boating bullshit...I don't like. I don't feel like I have to provide just cause for this...not just for you. I that were the case I'd have to back up everything that I said about Floyd, Hopkins, & many others that I like...some that are my favorites.

I'm not trying to argue with you for the sake of arguing but I could give examples for any fighter I dislike. Take Zab Judah for example, the mouth on him is unbelievable, and everyone could bring up numerous examples of bad behaviour inside and outside the ring, same thing with Floyd Mayweather, James Toney, Ricardo Mayorga etc.

But Mora to my knowledge at least hasn't done anything like that. I think people just dislike him because they don't like the way he looks or something

LMAO!

I guess you told him.
Now he is fumbling around saying he would have to look for something etc that he does not remember why he hates him blah blah blah.
HAHAHA!
Sit down Wacky!
BTW great examples Bilbo of people who we know are a** holes and we can post a grip of videos of them talking out the side of their a*** and or doing something stupid or acting in a way that is inappropriate. But when it comes to Mora, they suddenly get selective Amnesia. How convenient. lol

I think it's a herd thing, some fighters are just not cool to like.

[Wacko3205]

Oh no...please don't gang up on poor Wacko...not the two of you...please...I might not be able to handle it. :P

Anyways...as I was saying...I don't like the guy for his personality...his abilities I like.

I watched the show & developed that opinion...just because we don't agree doesn't make one more wrong than the other.

Danny...one day you will realize that it's not always about one poster gettin the upper hand on the other...until then...keep posting videos & crying over Floyd Mayweather beating everyone that he's faced...that will get you pretty far in life...when you run out of things there...start another thread about Zab Judah's shortcomings...everyone will laugh...again.

Bilbo...again...you'll just have to learn to stomach the fact that I don't like the guy because he does indeed act like a tool.

Thanks for showing me the error of my wicked ways.

[Kev]

Oh no...please don't gang up on poor Wacko...not the two of you...please...I might not be able to handle it. :P

Anyways...as I was saying...I don't like the guy for his personality...his abilities I like.

I watched the show & developed that opinion...just because we don't agree doesn't make one more wrong than the other.

Danny...one day you will realize that it's not always about one poster gettin the upper hand on the other...until then...keep posting videos & crying over Floyd Mayweather beating everyone that he's faced...that will get you pretty far in life...when you run out of things there...start another thread about Zab Judah's shortcomings...everyone will laugh...again.

Bilbo...again...you'll just have to learn to stomach the fact that I don't like the guy because he does indeed act like a tool.

Thanks for showing me the error of my wicked ways.

Ah Wacko we're not ganging up on you I just find it bizarre that practically everyone on here says the same about Mora that you do and yet none of you can really give a reason other than you just don't like him.

I'm not saying you can't hold that opinion so don't get defensive it's just that as I said in an earlier post reasons can be given for hating any other but him. It's not just you it's everybody.

If I held made a thread and said post evidence to support your view that Sergio is a tool I bet I'd get dozens of replies saying what a knob Sergio is but no examples.

He's just fundamentally unlikeable it seems........poor lad

[Kev]

Here's some lengthy Q & A interviews with Sergio.

I think he comes across as quite likeable, not big headed and a friendly guy.

Watch them, I'm sure you'll hate everything he has to say but see if you can think of why. Just so you can explain it to me.

Don't get defensive about it I'm not at all trying to change your view I'm jusr curious to know what it is about his demenour that people hate

http://sergiomora.net/smf/index.php/topic,40.0.html