Tito vs Hearns at Welterweight

[Baby-Faced-Assassin]

hearns would have tito in trouble early but i think tito would come back to win with a late KO

[Tito BHB]

The arguement about shuler bieng a slow starter is a strange one..

The way i see it is thus..

Shuler was a slow starter.. and by no means a big name.. but also by no means a less then worthy opponent.

Shuler was a slow starter, But you'll notice in the fight he doesnt actually start slow.. Whether this is due to the occasion or the nerves he actually gets on his toes a bit and starts putting the jab out there and getting into the action..

Whereas tito was at times a slow starter, and could be dropped early in fights.. but tito was always in my opinion very composed and the first couple of rounds were always always spent studying his foe, just giving them some moves and seeing how they react.. seeing what in fact after all the build up and talk before the fight they would actually offer him come crunch time..

and to be a slow starter and to not be particularly effective in early rounds to tito trinidad is not specifically to loose the rounds.. he didnt always give them away.. he just didnt get busy and put the real magic on his opponent till a couple rounds in..

And sorry if this is quite a late estimation of the subject

[match]

Trinidad NEVER fought anyone with a fraction of the power Hearns had. I loved watching Felix fight, but he'd get decapitated in this one.

[kelseym]

Hearnes would win by KO. Tito is very overrated IMO. Still a good fighter, but by no mean a Tommy Hearnes.

[ICB]

Hearns was a beast at Welterweight i see him stopping Tito inside of 5.

Yeah and TITO was a pussy cat

Tito @ WW had one of the Fastest left hooks with incredible Power and great timing and not to MEntion Tito in the smaina area one of the Best there has been.

I say all this the way people rule him out so easily, like if they where judging him of his fights at 160

Tito took too long to get started and he got hit too much i would be surprised if he made it past 5.

[DaxxKahn]

Hearns was a beast at Welterweight i see him stopping Tito inside of 5.

Yeah and TITO was a pussy cat

Tito @ WW had one of the Fastest left hooks with incredible Power and great timing and not to MEntion Tito in the smaina area one of the Best there has been.

I say all this the way people rule him out so easily, like if they where judging him of his fights at 160

Tito took too long to get started and he got hit too much i would be surprised if he made it past 5.

I have to whole heartedly agree with you on that...IMO it would be Trinidads biggest downfall in the fight......and Hearns hit damn hard with all his shots atWW not just the straight right....the right was just plain murderous

[bcollins]

I'd give Gatti a better shot at beating Mayweather in a rematch than Tito beating Hearns. Tito's a great fighter, no doubt. But Hearns was GREAT. There's not a WW out there today who could beat prime Hearns at that weight, IMO...Mayweather included. But that's the great thing about hypothetical matchups - we'll never know

[donnydarkoIRL]

Hearns was a guy that could be hurt, but he was hurt by fighters of a better pedigree in my opinion. He fought as far North as cruiser (a division in which he didn get ko'd!)

Hearns was an incredibly accurate puncher who started fights at pace (boxing or brawling he always left the blocks quick) His height coupled with that straight right hand was an incredibly efficient set up at welter and it would see him sweep aside many welters including trinidad

[Manju]

Hearns was significantly more powerful than Titio at welterweight, possesing a more imposing physique and reach. He was also a superior boxer, even to the point of being able to out box SRL. Tito in contrast was a one-trick pony, unable toc hange styles when needed...thus he was exposed by ODLH, and Hopkins followed that blueprint to its conclusion. But Tito was a well-schooled conventional forward fighter with great power. Hearn's chin would be the X factor.

People forget just how imposing Hearns was at welterweight up until he met Leonard. Since Leonard was the golden boy, people assume he was favored in that fight. He was not. Boxing experts were picking Hearns and the Vegas betting odds turned to Hearns as the fight approached. Due to his power, he had an aura of invincibility that only great punchers (like Tyson) take on until they are...well...beaten. At that point, his frail chin was not known, and he was so feared that people accused Leonard of dodging him.

This pretext makes SRL's victory all the more impressive.

[WelshDevilRob]

Hearns speed, power and reach would be the perfect foil to beat Trinidad. Hearns would be all wrong for Tito and stop him in the 4th.

[El Gamo]

I can see Tito hurting Hearns and then Hearns coming back to KTFO Tito. BOTH were legends at 147. Ridiculously powerful,good jabs,I just feel Hearns was the more powerful,faster fighter. One thing though,Tito had Round 2 knockdown syndrome,except,if Hearns put him down in Round 2,there would be NO WAY he would survive.

[WelshDevilRob]

I can see Tito hurting Hearns and then Hearns coming back to KTFO Tito. BOTH were legends at 147. Ridiculously powerful,good jabs,I just feel Hearns was the more powerful,faster fighter. One thing though,Tito had Round 2 knockdown syndrome,except,if Hearns put him down in Round 2,there would be NO WAY he would survive.

Good call El Gamo. I said round 4 which seems early for a fighter of Tito's ability but he always had that dodgy round where he switched off and got caught - no one could afford to do that against Hearns.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I'm quite fond of Trinidad and I do agree with the oucome Gamo, but I actually don't see Trinidad being too succesful at all.
I feel in Trinidad wright (past his prime i know) Tito was kept off balance and unco-ordinated by Winky's jab all night. Tommy had a fantastic long jab that i feel would have done the same i.e. putting Tito off balance and lowering his punch output consideerably.
In short Hearns would use his reach and skills to prevent engaging Trinida keep him at arms reach and set him up for the right cross.

So i essence I agree with all you said apart from Trindad having his own successes

[Puya]

no one would KO Tito @ WW. It would be a hard fight but that would be it. They will both respect each other.

Tito's fall went to test waters out of his league(160) and even so he did pretty good.

Tommy is one of the great but at WW so was TITO.



ANd Tell me how would Tommy would have done against a prime ODLH?

[donnydarkoIRL]

no one would KO Tito @ WW. It would be a hard fight but that would be it. They will both respect each other.

Tito's fall went to test waters out of his league(160) and even so he did pretty good.

Tommy is one of the great but at WW so was TITO.



ANd Tell me how would Tommy would have done against a prime ODLH?

Puya i never questioned Tito's greatness, but to say that he couldn't be stopped at Welter is not only inaccurate it's biased and just a result of wishful thinking. A great fighter no doubt but certainly not infallible.