FRANK WARREN BREAKS DOWN MAYWEATHER-HATTON.

[gally]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

[Bomp]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

I think Frank is just regurgitating some stuff he reads when he tries to put an analysis on these fights. You're right, he did pick Castillo to give Hatton a rough night, it's just sour grapes. I doubt it he wants Ricky to win by the tone of his article.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Rumour had it a short time ago they had reconciled somewhat, however i feel that they're business in the future may be limited to letting Ricky fight in Manchester for his last hurrah

[Fenster]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

Whether you like Warren or not he knows boxing. It's silly/naive to think otherwise.Forget the crap he writes in papers, ALL managers/promotors are biased towards their guys.. that's how it goes.

I believe he started by promoting unlicensed shows over 30 years ago.. No disrespect, but long before you were even born

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

Whether you like Warren or not he knows boxing. It's silly/naive to think otherwise.Forget the crap he writes in papers, ALL managers/promotors are biased towards their guys.. that's how it goes.

I believe he started by promoting unlicensed shows over 30 years ago.. No disrespect, but long before you were even born

Exactly he started by promoting.
He's never been a boxer and as such is limited to an outside view.
Warren is biased towards his guys, but at the end of the day, how much confidence does he actually have in them?


No disrespect in turn but iv been in a boxing gym every day for the past ten years and i no that fighters like Ricky Hatton, Calzaghe and Naseem Hamed deserved better opposition than Warren allowed them to face. This was a result of his lack of confidence

[Fenster]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

Whether you like Warren or not he knows boxing. It's silly/naive to think otherwise. Forget the crap he writes in papers, ALL managers/promotors are biased towards their guys.. that's how it goes.

I believe he started by promoting unlicensed shows over 30 years ago.. No disrespect, but long before you were even born

Exactly he started by promoting.
He's never been a boxer and as such is limited to an outside view.
Warren is biased towards his guys, but at the end of the day, how much confidence does he actually have in them?

No disrespect in turn but iv been in a boxing gym every day for the past ten years and i no that fighters like Ricky Hatton, Calzaghe and Naseem Hamed deserved better opposition than Warren allowed them to face. This was a result of his lack of confidence

I'll go with you for the sake of it.

1. Naz never lost under Warren - packed houses both sides of the Atlantic earning MILLIONS of pounds.

2. Hatton never lost under Warren - packed houses in the UK, became the undisputed champ at 140, earning millions of pounds.

3. Calzaghe has never lost under Warren - packed houses in the UK, currently hailed as the greatest ever supermiddle, earning millions of pounds.


What's the problem? If you like you can NAME all these fighters Warren dodged on behalf of Hatton, Calzaghe and Naz?

[Trainer Monkey]

Youd think Frank was a Ewe looking for its lamb the way he bleats on about Hatton

[Dark Lord Al]

Frank Warren Breaks Down Mayweather-Hatton


By Mark Vester

In his recent FRANKLY SPEAKING column, promoter Frank Warren seemed to lean towards Floyd Mayweather Jr., giving the opinion that Ricky Hatton is at a disadvantage on Dec. 8 in Las Vegas. Although he wants Hatton to pull it off, he sees a lot of hurdles for Hatton to overcome in the fight.

Warren took a look at Hatton's two biggest wins, over Kostya Tszyu and Jose Luis Castillo, and felt neither of them were going to beat Hatton in the first place. In Tszyu, Warren saw an ageing fighter who there for the taking, and Castillo was a shot fighter looking for an exit.

"Hatton scalped Kostya Tszyu to confirm he belongs with the best, but I always fancied him to win because I felt the Aussie was there to be beaten. Injury prone, ageing and inactive, Tszyu was always vulnerable against a fighter who could fight on the inside with a high work rate. He was made for Hatton," Warren said. "That was probably Hatton's last really good showing, Ricky himself said prior to the Castillo fight his performances were well below par as he failed to look the part when he beat Juan Urango, Luis Collazo and Carlos Maussa in three consecutive world title fights for three different belts. And while everyone is raving about his last win, over former world lightweight champion Jose Luis Castillo, he was a shot fighter. Hatton caught him with a great body shot, but Castillo definitely looked for a way out."

Warren says Mayweather is the first world class fighter, currently in their prime, that Hatton has faced in his entire career. If Hatton is not up in the fight by the sixth-round, Warren says he'll be in trouble.

"The Hitman won't find things so easy against Mayweather, the first world class fighter in his "prime" that he has faced. Unless he has a lot of movement when he comes forward, he'll get picked off by the Pretty Boy, who is an excellent sharp-shooter with lightning fast hands and footwork. And I've noticed recently that Hatton tends to hit and hold when he's on the inside, rather than really let the punches go as he used to," Warren said. "Will that work against Mayweather? Unless he jumps on him in the first three or four rounds and really dominates, he'll find himself being out-boxed and completely out of the fight. This isn't a contest that Hatton will come into late on - if he isn't on top by the sixth, he's in trouble."

Hatton is ready to work Mayweather's body, but Warren feels Hatton is the one who is more prone to body punishment and thinks the welterweight limit of 147 will come into play. If not for the big payday, Warren doesn't think Hatton would have moved up to 147.

"The American has been a welterweight for the last two years, and is comfortable at 147 pounds, so much so that he even went up to light-middleweight to tackle Oscar De La Hoya. And despite Hatton's struggle to make 140 pounds, he is only really a light-welterweight. Those extra seven pounds could make a hell of a difference. I offered to make Hatton-Mayweather when Floyd was still a light-welterweight and Ricky was promoted by me, but it was turned down," Warren said. "After the Collazo fight Hatton's trainer, Billy Graham, said he was against the fight and has always said that he would never allow Hatton to fight against a genuine welterweight, but is happy to let him face Mayweather because he started out at 130 pounds. But let's get real, how can you compare Collazo with Mayweather? And Mayweather's not been a super-featherweight for six years, and he's boxed at welterweight since stopping Sharmba Mitchell in November 2005. Win, lose or draw, Hatton is still a light-welter."

"The real reason he's stepping up? Because he's going to get paid big money, the same reason why he was prepared to walk away from promoter Dennis Hobson and allow De La Hoya's Golden Boy to promote the fight. Mayweather is a hurtful puncher who can also take a good shot, and although both boxers have been down before, I think Hatton may be the more vulnerable of the two, especially to the body."

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This is priceless FRANK WARREN saying Mayweather is the only world class fighter in his prime Ricky has met !!!!
althought this is true ( and by the way Mayweather is p4pking ) Frank Warrens has lots of so called WORLD champions , and THEY NEVER MEET WORLD CLASS FIGHTERS IN THERE PRIME , LET ALONE P4P KINGS.
Sour grapes from WARREN WHO IS TOTAL AND UTTER SCUM , AND I HATE HIM .

[WelshDevilRob]

What a bitter, bitter man old Frank is.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

Whether you like Warren or not he knows boxing. It's silly/naive to think otherwise. Forget the crap he writes in papers, ALL managers/promotors are biased towards their guys.. that's how it goes.

I believe he started by promoting unlicensed shows over 30 years ago.. No disrespect, but long before you were even born

Exactly he started by promoting.
He's never been a boxer and as such is limited to an outside view.
Warren is biased towards his guys, but at the end of the day, how much confidence does he actually have in them?

No disrespect in turn but iv been in a boxing gym every day for the past ten years and i no that fighters like Ricky Hatton, Calzaghe and Naseem Hamed deserved better opposition than Warren allowed them to face. This was a result of his lack of confidence

I'll go with you for the sake of it.

1. Naz never lost under Warren - packed houses both sides of the Atlantic earning MILLIONS of pounds.

2. Hatton never lost under Warren - packed houses in the UK, became the undisputed champ at 140, earning millions of pounds.

3. Calzaghe has never lost under Warren - packed houses in the UK, currently hailed as the greatest ever supermiddle, earning millions of pounds.


What's the problem? If you like you can NAME all these fighters Warren dodged on behalf of Hatton, Calzaghe and Naz?

Sorry i forgot you were frank's biggest fan on saddo's.

Ricky had been looking for Kostya for 2 years before Warren got him
Naseem didn fight Morales or Barrera until he left Warren
Calzaghe was served up fighters like Robin Reid, Salem and Bika

Now my questions:

How come Hatton left warren if he was doing such a good job?
Why did Calzaghe express interest in leaving Warren in order to get the fights he wanted?
Why did Naz leave him?

[Fenster]

Yes he is a buisness man, but he does know the boxing game, and he is stating the obvious and speaking the truth. (I still want Ricky to K O floyd just cant see it happening.)

I'm not actually convinced Frank does no the boxing game all that well. He (as a business man) spotted a gap in the market, got into boxing filled that niche, surrounded himself with advisors and "experts" and confers with them on all decisions. Stiill with that advice he plays it very carefully, highlighting his lack of confidence in his field.

Whether you like Warren or not he knows boxing. It's silly/naive to think otherwise. Forget the crap he writes in papers, ALL managers/promotors are biased towards their guys.. that's how it goes.

I believe he started by promoting unlicensed shows over 30 years ago.. No disrespect, but long before you were even born

Exactly he started by promoting.
He's never been a boxer and as such is limited to an outside view.
Warren is biased towards his guys, but at the end of the day, how much confidence does he actually have in them?

No disrespect in turn but iv been in a boxing gym every day for the past ten years and i no that fighters like Ricky Hatton, Calzaghe and Naseem Hamed deserved better opposition than Warren allowed them to face. This was a result of his lack of confidence

I'll go with you for the sake of it.

1. Naz never lost under Warren - packed houses both sides of the Atlantic earning MILLIONS of pounds.

2. Hatton never lost under Warren - packed houses in the UK, became the undisputed champ at 140, earning millions of pounds.

3. Calzaghe has never lost under Warren - packed houses in the UK, currently hailed as the greatest ever supermiddle, earning millions of pounds.


What's the problem? If you like you can NAME all these fighters Warren dodged on behalf of Hatton, Calzaghe and Naz?

Sorry i forgot you were frank's biggest fan on saddo's.

Ricky had been looking for Kostya for 2 years before Warren got him
Naseem didn fight Morales or Barrera until he left Warren
Calzaghe was served up fighters like Robin Reid, Salem and Bika

Now my questions:

How come Hatton left warren if he was doing such a good job?
Why did Calzaghe express interest in leaving Warren in order to get the fights he wanted?
Why did Naz leave him?

I'm Franks biggest fan for asking you questions? Come on don't get upset, bud.

Ricky was delivered Kostya with home advantage. So your answer don't mean much, but bear in mind Kostya was injured for long periods of that "two years before."

Barrera was offered the Naz fight whilst with Warren but turned it down. Plus Morales and Barrera were operating in another weightclass.

Calzaghe is still with Warren, so your answer don't mean much.

Here's the answer to your questions - Money.

Next?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Warren delivered the Kostya fight o the understanding that hatton would gfo independent if Frankd didn sort it out. Following the Tszyu fight Warren wanted to revert to safety first but Ricky aborted.

Why was it that Barrera was approached and not Morales as Morales was seeen as the more dangerous of the two. weight class or not, that fight was the talking point back then.

Calzaghe relationship with Warren is at best strained and his career in the eyes of many has been tainted by Warrens management.

I can see from the Money point that you are along the same mindset as Frank, but to others in the sport money is not the most important thing and it is often the case that if money is discounted or set at a lower rung of importance better fights get made.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

You don't have to box to know boxing/be a trainer/manager/promoter. It'll give you a different perspective for sure.

Many boxers whilst still wanting the glory are in it for the big bucks.

" if money is discounted or set at a lower rung of importance better fights get made." and fights would not get made.

[Fenster]

I can see from the Money point that you are along the same mindset as Frank, but to others in the sport money is not the most important thing and it is often the case that if money is discounted or set at a lower rung of importance better fights get made.

Can you give some examples?

What people?

What fights were made when money wasn't a question?