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    Default Re: My List of Champions for 2008 (by weight)

    Quote Originally Posted by ArawakWarria
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by ArawakWarria

    JuLtwt--Joan Guzman
    He will clean up the division, if he doesn't go to Ltwt. I am concerned that he won't have any power at all at 135. If he does go up, then I will say Humberto Soto will take over the division. JM Marquez is a favorite, but he is coming into the twilight of his career. WHY IS IT THAT VALERO DOESN'T FIGHT IN THE US? btw--[b][color=red]PACQUIAO LOSES TO ALL OF THE ABOVE--GUZMAN, SOTO, MARQUEZ & VALERO.
    you got some explaning to do....



    p.s, since you obviously don't know, valero failed a health exam or something, denying him a license to fight in the U.S.
    Guzman--I believe is a no brainer. He will box the pants off of Pacquiao. He has the speed, the size and the accuracy to do it.

    Soto--a diligent warrior who will not back off of MP. He also has the power to KO Pacquiao (please note that both fighters above are already considering a run at Ltwt).

    Marquez--I won't even discuss it. Just wait for the March rematch. Because he has slowed down, he has lost some of his pop, but he still has the tools to get the job done. This will be a great rematch.

    Valero--both of his hands are dipped in cement, and MP just leaves himself too open.

    Let me know your thoughts JMRain...
    i think ur pretty bias against pac, the only fighter that i see that really has a chance against the p4p best second only to floyd (pacman) is jmm. come march it will be a great battle between two top 4 p4pders of the world.

    guzman has boxing skills but thats the same things they said about every fighter pac has face, and theres no doubt that pac brings hell to all of them. guzman has never been in agains a fighter like pac who has speed and stamina in his side at every match. guzman needs power to beat pac to keep him at bay which in truth guzman has not. his only chance is if he can sustain 12 rounds of pacs punishing blows after blows, and keep in mind. if you've seen enough guzmans fight, his stamina is suspect and pac is a much condition and younger fighter. i don't see guzman having a cchance lasting 10, by the 7th he'll start hurting from pacs blows and he'l just got slower and slower then. he has no power to keep pac honest.

    your the first i heard to say soto will beat pac, this one is a joke really to even debate about.

    valero does have power but you say pac leave himself open way too much, what you think valero has defense? his the older version of pac. wild and all about power, as a matter of fact not even the old version of pac. im talking about the 20 year old pac that was totally wild. not the 24 year old that whoop ledwaba a master boxer and barrera the featherweight king of the time. valero has fought nobody his power is still overrated til he steps up his opposition. everyone he has fought would be easy meal for pac,jmm and even guzman.

    heres my list that have the most chance beating pac:

    jmm
    juan diaz at lightweight
    guzman


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    Default Re: My List of Champions for 2008 (by weight)

    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by ArawakWarria
    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Marvelous Rain
    Quote Originally Posted by ArawakWarria

    JuLtwt--Joan Guzman
    He will clean up the division, if he doesn't go to Ltwt. I am concerned that he won't have any power at all at 135. If he does go up, then I will say Humberto Soto will take over the division. JM Marquez is a favorite, but he is coming into the twilight of his career. WHY IS IT THAT VALERO DOESN'T FIGHT IN THE US? btw--[b][color=red]PACQUIAO LOSES TO ALL OF THE ABOVE--GUZMAN, SOTO, MARQUEZ & VALERO.
    you got some explaning to do....



    p.s, since you obviously don't know, valero failed a health exam or something, denying him a license to fight in the U.S.
    Guzman--I believe is a no brainer. He will box the pants off of Pacquiao. He has the speed, the size and the accuracy to do it.

    Soto--a diligent warrior who will not back off of MP. He also has the power to KO Pacquiao (please note that both fighters above are already considering a run at Ltwt).

    Marquez--I won't even discuss it. Just wait for the March rematch. Because he has slowed down, he has lost some of his pop, but he still has the tools to get the job done. This will be a great rematch.

    Valero--both of his hands are dipped in cement, and MP just leaves himself too open.

    Let me know your thoughts JMRain...
    i think ur pretty bias against pac, the only fighter that i see that really has a chance against the p4p best second only to floyd (pacman) is jmm. come march it will be a great battle between two top 4 p4pders of the world.

    guzman has boxing skills but thats the same things they said about every fighter pac has face, and theres no doubt that pac brings hell to all of them. guzman has never been in agains a fighter like pac who has speed and stamina in his side at every match. guzman needs power to beat pac to keep him at bay which in truth guzman has not. his only chance is if he can sustain 12 rounds of pacs punishing blows after blows, and keep in mind. if you've seen enough guzmans fight, his stamina is suspect and pac is a much condition and younger fighter. i don't see guzman having a cchance lasting 10, by the 7th he'll start hurting from pacs blows and he'l just got slower and slower then. he has no power to keep pac honest.

    your the first i heard to say soto will beat pac, this one is a joke really to even debate about.

    valero does have power but you say pac leave himself open way too much, what you think valero has defense? his the older version of pac. wild and all about power, as a matter of fact not even the old version of pac. im talking about the 20 year old pac that was totally wild. not the 24 year old that whoop ledwaba a master boxer and barrera the featherweight king of the time. valero has fought nobody his power is still overrated til he steps up his opposition. everyone he has fought would be easy meal for pac,jmm and even guzman.

    heres my list that have the most chance beating pac:

    jmm
    juan diaz at lightweight
    guzman

    Solis and Valero have a puncher chance. Pac enter exchanges without caution because some of his recent opponents lacked one punch KO power . JMM, MAB, EM, Solis, Larios ? Pac has not had to respect his opponents power. skill yes power no ! Then there is speed, neither of the mentioned above has above average speed or great footwork. Boxing as you know is mental and that is a huge advantage knowing you can change the outcome with a single punch and that your opponent is slow afoot. I await the day Pac gets tagged by a heavier puncher or outpunched by a faster opponent and see how he reacts. Julius Marvelous Rain I know Pac is your man but his scheduling to date has been brilliant! However, 2008 will be the year we witness the true makeup of Pac.

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