You really don't like Ricky Hatton do you??Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
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You really don't like Ricky Hatton do you??Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
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Yea Hatton is a good fighter and lost to the BEST ,wots wrong with that ??
Did i not just point out the facts ?? whats wrong in that ?? tell me one point i made wrong ?? and i hate Hatton so much i just defended him.Originally Posted by leftylee
Cintron has no heart, i think Hatton could break up Cintron, watch Cintron's fight with Felciano, Feliciano's swarming style was giving Cintron fits. Cintron looked very dishearten and if journeyman like Feliciano can do that to Cintron with his swarming style, imagine what Hatton would do to him. Berto is a good prospect but he is very beatable. I don't know how you can be 100 percent sure someone like Berto would beat Hatton. Judah just like Cintron has questionable heart Hatton would get Judah into deep waters and stop him late on.
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Finito, I can't argue with you about Cintron's heart because of what happened against Margaritio, but Hatton isn't the physical presence Margarito is or even Feliciano. Hatton would be like an annoying little fly to Cintron and I doubt Hatton would be able to take the punishment or blows Feliciano took. Hatton's tactics can work at 140, but at 147 against Cintron, it will be lights out.Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
Not to sound nasty here but your making it sound like Feliciano has iron chin, this is the same Feliciano who was KO in 4 rounds by light hitting Demetrius Hopkins, and this is the same Feliciano was stopped in 1 round, getting dropped 3 times in the process by light hitting Mike Arnaoutis. I think Cintron's power is slightly overrated he has never really stopped any good opponent.Originally Posted by Rican
"Razor Thin decision" by 3 points on two cards he won and it's not like it was a split decision or anything and Ricky Hatton done what Mosely never done which was knock him down. For just taking it on 5 weeks notice Hatton done pretty well against Collazo who is a natural welterweight and had already beaten Jose Rivera who went on to become the light-middle champ.Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
Forgetting what judges had it, because if we are using that logic then Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez was a close fight because the judges had it a draw.Originally Posted by leftylee
Most people had the fight very close, in fact the British broadcast team had Hatton only winning by 1 point and a lot of people had it only 1 point in it either way. If your going to try and tell me Collazo vs Hatton wasn't very close then there is something very wrong.
Hatton knocked Collazo down yes bit it was only a flash knockdown when Collazo was moving backwards. Collazo was off balance at the time and Hatton only caught Collazo with a jolting shot. Fair play Hatton knocked him down but it was nothing more than a flash knockdown due to Collazo being off balance.
Mosley may of not knocked down Collazo but he handle Collazo much easier, Mosley basically shut out Collazo.
Mosley did knock Collazo down,didn't he? I'm pretty sure he did,Collazo touched the canvas.
Omg i can't believe i forgot that El Gamo yes it was in the 11th round from a right hand silly me i forgot my bad. With all the massive fights that have happened this year i totally forgot.Originally Posted by El Gamo
Hatton can't beat Mosley, Cotto, Williams or Margarito. I would give him a chance against Cintron{maybe just cause I can't stand him}, but only if he stayed out of range of that right hand of Kermit's. Though, tht is unlikely as once he starts getting hit he takes alot of them, and Cintron would hit harder than that pole Hatton ran into
Could go either way, as Cintron gets unbalanced with constant pressure, almost like a new version of Judah IMO.
I think he could beat Judah, because after a few rounds Judah basicaly falls apart. He would get to Hatton the 1st couple of rounds, but he doesn't put the punches together like Mayweather and a pressure fighter always gets Zab frustrated. I say upper round stoppage for Hatton. I always said he would of done himself a favor by fighting Zab before ever attempting to get in with Floyd, just to gauge himself at least with a very fast opponent{though not as crafty as Floyd, granted}.
He could probably beat Carlos Plodomir. None of these guys are certainties, but they are the only ones I give Hatton a good chance to win over. You can forget the top WW's; not happening IMO.
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!! If light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!! Finito, you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
Cintron's power overated? Is that a logical assertion, considering "The Killer" has 27 out of 29 KO's!!Originally Posted by Rican
I said slightly overrated, and name me one fighter he has stopped who is worth mentioning ??
light hitting Collazo can rock Hatton in round 12, Cintron will annhilate Hitman!!
Light hitting Collazo is naturally much bigger than Hatton, plus Hatton's other problem was that he has struggled badly with southpaws ever since he was an amateur.
you talk about how Feliciano, who has been KO'd by Demetrious Hopkins and dropped previously by Might Mike, survived Kermit's barrage, but you fail to mention Cintron's damaged right hand, his money punch, allowing Feliciano to survive for as long as he did!
Oh come on Cintron was using his right hand plenty, you don't honestly believe Cintron's poor excuse do you ?? the fact is Feliciano has been KO by light punchers so if Cintron is *The Killer* as you say he would of stopped Feliciano without much trouble.
Finito, I am beginning to wonder about your reasoning abilities.Originally Posted by Ricardo "Finito" Lopez
As a way of supporting your opinion, you said: "Light hitting Collazo is naturally bigger than Hatton..." This justifies Collazo's ability to "rock" Hatton in round 12. But isn't Cintron naturally bigger than Hatton? Therefore, wouldn't Kermit be able to "rock" Hatton too?
You claim Cintron's "hurt" right hand was an excuse, but aren't you making excuses for Hatton's performance against Collazo by stating he had problems with southpaws "ever since he was an amateur"?
Please clarify these logical fallacies.
As a way of supporting your opinion, you said: "Light hitting Collazo is naturally bigger than Hatton..." This justifies Collazo's ability to "rock" Hatton in round 12. But isn't Cintron naturally bigger than Hatton? Therefore, wouldn't Kermit be able to "rock" Hatton too?Originally Posted by Rican
Yes he is but the difference is Collazo is more skilled fighter than Cintron, it was the speed and southpaw stance that gave Hatton trouble. Hatton was rocked i never denied that but it was Hatton's first fight at Welterweight, and he only had 5 weeks to train so he wasn't 100 percent and he underestimated Collazo.
You claim Cintron's "hurt" right hand was an excuse, but aren't you making excuses for Hatton's performance against Collazo by stating he had problems with southpaws "ever since he was an amateur"?
Actually thats well known fact Hatton has always had trouble with Southpaws, most of his losses as amateur come against Southpaw's i believe, read up on it and your find out for yourself. I think most boxing fans would agree Cintron made that excuse for his poor showing against journeyman fighter that he was supposed to blow away. Don't you find it funny that Cintron was perfectly fine then he rolls on the floor then all of a sudden his hand is hurting ?? come on its obvious its BS.
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