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    Quote Originally Posted by BHB
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    I wish Trinidad would of fought Ike Quartey
    As do i.. There were a couple fights i would have loved to see come off which never quite did..

    Namely the other main one was a bout at 154 with terry norris.. That would have been huge in the history books..

    They tried a long time for that fight but it never came off.. Call it a hunch but i blame don king..
    A lot of the 90's Welterweight Match ups didn't happen.

    Ike Quartey vs Felix Trinidad
    Shane Mosley vs Felix Trinidad
    Jose Luis Lopez vs Oscar De La Hoya

    Etc.

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    I agree Trinidad is was a great fighter. One thing to add though, he didn't really " beat " Oscar De La Hoya, watch the fight on youtube and you'll see for yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman76
    I agree Trinidad is was a great fighter. One thing to add though, he didn't really " beat " Oscar De La Hoya, watch the fight on youtube and you'll see for yourself.
    It could of gone either way i had the bout even.

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    Well my view on Trinidad is as Follows.

    At Welterweight he had power that ranked up there with Tommy Hearns and the very best. He showed up, for every fight in condition and in every fight he gave his all perpetually on the front foot attacking. With Trinidad every punch was hard. Every punch was thrown with the intent of knocking the opponent out. At his peak i never saw trinidad feint, he would throw a punch instead and If it landed on the gloves it would still hurt. He ravaged the division, his only stumble was against De la Hoya, but as he was such a fan favourite and trained so hard not many grudged him one debatable win.

    At 154 his power was similar and just as effective but north at 160 it was slightly dulled by the natural size advantage of the middles. However, his work ethic provided him successes and he wasn't a bad middle by any means.

    Trinidad's primary flaw was also what made him interesting and exciting, he possessed a chin which was pentratable and could be damaged, he could be put own. As i said this never really played to his disadvantage at Welter but made him damn exciting!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jman76
    I agree Trinidad is was a great fighter. One thing to add though, he didn't really " beat " Oscar De La Hoya, watch the fight on youtube and you'll see for yourself.
    He beat him
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    by the way i'm a whore so feel free to fire away with responses.
    Shame on you for trying to buy posters

    As for Tito. He was one of those fighters that got famous late in his career. He was overshadowed by the combined starpower might of Tyson and later Oscar. Most fans know what he did after the Oscar fight when he moved up in weight. He had a huge run with almost back to back victories over Whitaker, De La Hoya, Read, Vargas and Joppy. But it was as a Welterweight that he truelly shined.

    He was IMO the best welterweight of his era. He is the longest reigning champion in WW history (though he does not hold the reccord for most defenses as some claim). He defended his title 16 times (some say 17, but the fight with Troy Waters was not a title fight). He was the first to beat Carr, Campas, De La Hoya, Vargas and Read among other lesser opponents.

    Camacho was not exactly in his best weight when he fought Tito, but he did go on to win 20 fights after that till he met DLH and lossed again.

    Whitaker was far from his best but Tito did give him his first unquestionable loss. To this day Tito is the only fighter who has looked good against Whitaker.

    You should see some of his early fights, there are few fighters that match his offensive arsenal.


    He recieved stardom after he beat Oscar, he was only 26 at that point, he was very young at the time of his fame. Oscar was the start of his incredible run and Joppy was the end. I thought he looked great in his return against Mayorga. The guy is my favorite fighter of all time behind Pernell
    This is true, but by that time he had already been a champion for 6 years and defended his title 16 times. Before the fight with Whitaker and DLH he was known by some as boxing's best kept secret and some said he was at the time the greatest fighter never to headline an event.

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    Tito was a great fighter,who bit off way more then he could chew,great power,good style,but this happens to alot of fighters
    Hopkins taught him fear,the bad version some guys never ever get over

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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish Rover
    I would be in the same situation as ono.


    Wasnt there some controversy over the way he wrapped his hands though? I heard it made it the equivalent of a having a knuckle duster in a bare knuckle fight.


    Is all this Bullsh1t or does it have some merit?
    Some people will say differently but IMO it is all a bunch of BS. There have never been any official complaint or proof. Even the guys in Hopkins camp who protested about the handwrapp later said in an interview that he never ment to imply Tito was cheating, he just said he was not wrapping his hands to regulation. Regulations in boxing often differ from state to state so its really not that supprising.

    There was also an article where many different trainers talked about hand wrapps and how some trainers used extra tape or guaze and non of that would make you hit harder. It would only protect the hands better. Many don't know this but there was a fight early in his career where Tito hurt both of his hands early in the fight and went on to win by UD. He never hurt his hands after that so I can see the possibility that his dad put on some extra padding or tape, maybe more than allowed, to protect his hands. But you should know that before every fight, especially a championship fight, there is a representative of the state athletic comision that verifies hand wraps and gloves because of past problems with fighters removing padding from the gloves.

    Finally, that hole crap about him soaking his wrapps and turning them to a cast is total BS. I don't know where anybody got that from and trust me I have looked and searched as many sources as a regular joe like me can and I have found nothing.

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