Why do people say Trinidad is finished?

[MIKAY]

because hes ancient, i know hes just turning 35 but to tell you the truth the last proper fight i can remember tito being in was against delahoya and i was about 10 years old ? (am 22 now)

[donnydarkoIRL]

Well they may be old, there may be no titles on the line, it may have little significance in terms of boxing's welfare, but it still may serve to give us an entertaining fight.

Neither guy will come back on the scene like they once were but they may serve their new purpose by giving one last great performance and giving us a great fight. It happened in the fifties all the time, guys fought for pride and the fans more than money and glory, why not nowadays too?

[El Gamo]

I see difficulties for him because he is fighting at a higher weight class than he has fought and his optimum weight class was 154/147. 170 is way too high,combined with the layoff will be too much. Look,even if he wins this fight,does anyone really think he is going to beat Arthur Abraham/Pavlik etc(presuming he drops to 160 after the fight,if he can even make 160¬?

I love Tito but I don't want to see him coming back full time.

[ICB]

I was thinking about the RJJ-Tito fight and generally the public is viewing it as two washed up fighters fighting for a paycheck. But then I started thinking, Tito isn't washed up. Honestly, the guy is about to turn 35, so he's not really all that old like RJJ, Tarver, B-Hop and some of these other dinosaurs. He's got 42 wins and only lost twice and both losses were essentially to the same type of very crafty, tricky, veteran type boxers (B-Hop and Winky), who just simply were smarter than him and had a better gameplan. Then other people are saying that he won't have any power at 170, but he's got a big frame and he was still knocking people out at 160. Until I see Tito in the RJJ fight, I'm not so sure he's washed up just yet. Who knows? Maybe he can start a little career revival for a year or two if he wins.

Well 1st off all the long lay offs are not going to do Tito any good. I don't care who you are, your not going to be nowhere near your best with all the long lay offs. Tito is now at the age when you start going down hill sorry to sound like a smart a** here but i think its a no brainer.

4 fights in 6 years, 34 years old will be 35 coming into this fight, fighting at a weight class Tito hasn't fought at before, got dominated in his last fight which will be not do Tito's confidence any good, = Past his prime.

[RozzySean]

Let's look at Tito's wins at middleweight:

William Joppy: the guy was white-washed by Jermain Taylor on all 3 scorecards, 154lbs fighters like Spinks and Ouma did not have that happen to them. Joppy was/is an average fighter. Not a great KO win. Joppy's only KO is to Tito but tito is the only person he has fought with REAL KO power.

Hacine Cherifi: WHO ?

Ricardo Mayorga: Mayorga wasn't a proper middleweight like Tito so this win counts for virtually nothing in this argument as it was just to blown-up welters.

So Tito's KO's meant nothing at 160. So how can he KO someone at 10lbs more. We've seen how 10lbs or even less can drain fighters power which would be disastorous for Felix. Tito's latest impressive win was against 'El Feroz' in 2000. 8 YEARS AGO. He's finished IMO.

You gotta at least give him credit for the Joppy win. Tito was the only guy to stop him, ever, and Joppy beat an undefeated, prime Howard Eastman in next bout after the loss. By the time Taylor shut him out, Joppy was 3 years older, and he been through tough fights with Tito (a KO), Eastman (tough MD), and Hopkins. And at that time, Taylor was still a KO puncher - KO'd his previous 6 opponents, but he couldn't stop a much older, worn version of Joppy. When Tito fought Joppy, Joppy was the 3rd best MW in the world, behind Tito and B-Hop, and then Joppy beat Eastman in his next fight, Eastman was probably the 4th best MW at the time. How can you discount that? The Joppy KO is case and point that Tito had his power at 160.

That being said, I think Tito is finished from inactivity, but I bet he can still punch, and don't forget, Jones has a suspect beard. Jones has been more active, but this version of Roy Jones is a shadow his former self. So, yeah, I think Tito can KO Jones, lights out. I just don't think he's going to get the chance to do it unless Roy fights a very stupid fight (a possibility) or underestimates Tito's power. Jones should be able to move, rip of some counters, move, and move some more, but if Jones tries one of his chicken-dance moves, he could end up tasting canvas.

[El Kabong]

....watch Tito's fight vs Winky Wright and tell me he's not done

[RozzySean]

....watch Tito's fight vs Winky Wright and tell me he's not done

That wasn't just because Tito was done, though I agree he was certainly past his best. It was also because when Tito is matched up bad, he looks very bad...Hopkins, Wright, and 9 rounds vs Oscar. He might not have been in his prime, but Winky would done the same thing to Tito, even in Tito's prime. It would have been closer, 117-111 maybe instead of a shut out.

[frozensolid_702]

....watch Tito's fight vs Winky Wright and tell me he's not done

Agreed.

He was done then (not to mention that he was fighting too high out of his weight class) years ago.

Now he's fighting Roy Jones Jr. at a much higher weight class.

Tito was shot then, but he's even more shot now. And last I saw of Roy, he looked pretty damn good.
The Puerto Ricans aren't swaying my decision in the least. In fact, I would like for ALL of the Trinidad supporters to go put their money on him since you guys think he's gonna win so that I will make even more money when I put my intelligent money on Jones and the under (even if the under is like 6 rounds)