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    Default Re: Who won

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Quote Originally Posted by ono
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Just seeing who people thought won. Thought it was a close one, bit surprised to see it being described as a robbery so much but then again a lot of times on here close fights or slightly bad decisions are seen as robberies.

    So who won?

    If you thought Herman won, was it just a close fight with a somewhat questionable decision or was it an out and out robbery, a horrible injustice or some shit.
    To be honest i got the impression while i was watching it, that if it was a close fight Paulie would get the nod.

    I only had Herman winning by 115-113 so to see it going the other way isn't a robbery. I think people are mostly pissed off with the judges scorecards rather than the overall decision.

    9 rounds to 3 in Paulie's favour is a disgrace.

    It's at the point where judges can no longer by relied upon to determine a winner and a loser in a fight and thats sad.
    Right the 117-111 card is absurd but I had no problems with the other 2.
    yeh 117-111 is quite disturbing.

    The 115-113 to Paulie wasn't anything to complain about too much....depending on how you scored the really close rounds.
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    Default Re: Who won

    Quote Originally Posted by ono
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Quote Originally Posted by ono
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan
    Just seeing who people thought won. Thought it was a close one, bit surprised to see it being described as a robbery so much but then again a lot of times on here close fights or slightly bad decisions are seen as robberies.

    So who won?

    If you thought Herman won, was it just a close fight with a somewhat questionable decision or was it an out and out robbery, a horrible injustice or some shit.
    To be honest i got the impression while i was watching it, that if it was a close fight Paulie would get the nod.

    I only had Herman winning by 115-113 so to see it going the other way isn't a robbery. I think people are mostly pissed off with the judges scorecards rather than the overall decision.

    9 rounds to 3 in Paulie's favour is a disgrace.

    It's at the point where judges can no longer by relied upon to determine a winner and a loser in a fight and thats sad.
    Right the 117-111 card is absurd but I had no problems with the other 2.
    yeh 117-111 is quite disturbing.

    The 115-113 to Paulie wasn't anything to complain about too much....depending on how you scored the really close rounds.
    Right on, ono.
    Are you also calling it a robbery?
    I know JTRock is and would like to read why he thinks it was a robbery. I would also like to see a round by round scorecard from him.

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    Default Re: Who won

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    I voted Paulie.
    I had it 115-113 for Paulie I could def. see someone having Herman edging it out by a round.
    What I can't see is people saying it was a robbery. I think people have begun to miss use the words "Great" & "Robbery" a lot lately.
    To me a robbery is a fight where there is a clear cut winner by at least 2 maybe 3 rounds and the decision goes the other way.
    Huerta-Raymkulov, Navarro-Gainer, Ortiz-Diaz, Santa-Joel etc. etc. etc.
    A fight like this one where an arguement could be made that some rounds were even some could go either way does not IMO qualify it or justify it as a robbery.
    Exactly. The word robbery gets thrown around way too much. I love this debate after fights:

    "It was a robbery"

    "How did you score it"

    "115-113"

    Look up the definition of robbery and you get Burton-Augustus, not close fights like this.

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    Default Re: Who won

    I think my comments reflect what has already been said. My initial reaction, without scoring the fight was that, herman won. I watched the fight again and had Herman 115-113 but there were a number of close rounds that could have gone either way. I therefore do not see a 115-113 to Paulie as a robbery. Fortunate maybe but no robbery. 117-111 is a disgrace and Larry Hazard can not even be blamed for this one. There ought to be more people leaving the New Jersey commission with scoring like the above.
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    I gave it to Herman by a round.....Not that Herman is a better fighter then Malignaggi just Malignaggi performed like S***....I won't call it a real robbery...I have seen worse...Much worse....


    Actually let me edit that a bit....I don't think giving Paul the decision is that much of a robbery I have seen worse...I do think that having him ahead by 4 rds on one card is a travesty
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    Default Re: Who won

    I saw the fight for the second time this morning and I gave Herman the last two rounds and finally, a draw. Interesting tidbits about the fight: a) I thought Herman scored a knockdown in one of the early rounds when Paulie's landed on his gloves and knees. The announcers said their feet got tangled, but I did not see that and although Paulie was indeed off balance, what sent him to the canvas was a punch to the ribs, which, with Paulie's off balance momentum, made him fall; b) The round where Paulie was staggered/hit hard could have been called a 10-8 round-that's how dominant herman was in that round.

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