Ricky Hattons Legacy

[pacfan]

Fighting a small kid like pac will definitely put a big dent on his legacy. Worse though, will be if he loses to pac, then he's legacy is done and over with - he's got nothing to gain in the fight (I must be scared of my boy losing.. ).

[albsur2006]

I think Hatton's legacy should be Britian's most popular brawler ever. Ricky Hatton hasn't done enough to be considered any greater than that. We all know that he beat a washed up Tszyu. I still give him credit for that win because Tszyu was still the king at 140 at the time, but I think that Hatton has always given himself TOO much credit for that win. He's always used that fight as validation that he belongs amongst boxing's elite but I think that win was a little overrated. Ricky's competition @ 140 has been average since Tszyu, Maussa was garbage (Victor Ortiz proved that), Urango was given a horrible gift decision in the fight before Hatton that proved he was one-dimensional, JLC was completely washed up and just looking for a big check to pay off his many debts. Hatton is a good fighter but anyone saying he's an ATG is a F****** idiot.

Tszyu was p4p#2 fighter in the world

Castillo was top 10 p4p in most p4p threads i saw on here.

Just because a fighter is old in boxing terms, doesn't mean he is washed up

And your last point makes no sense whatsoever seen as tho he only got 40k for the fight.

I think Hatton's legacy should be Britian's most popular brawler ever. Ricky Hatton hasn't done enough to be considered any greater than that. We all know that he beat a washed up Tszyu. I still give him credit for that win because Tszyu was still the king at 140 at the time, but I think that Hatton has always given himself TOO much credit for that win. He's always used that fight as validation that he belongs amongst boxing's elite but I think that win was a little overrated. Ricky's competition @ 140 has been average since Tszyu, Maussa was garbage (Victor Ortiz proved that), Urango was given a horrible gift decision in the fight before Hatton that proved he was one-dimensional, JLC was completely washed up and just looking for a big check to pay off his many debts. Hatton is a good fighter but anyone saying he's an ATG is a F****** idiot.

Tszyu was p4p#2 fighter in the world

Castillo was top 10 p4p in most p4p threads i saw on here.

Just because a fighter is old in boxing terms, doesn't mean he is washed up

And your last point makes no sense whatsoever seen as tho he only got 40k for the fight.

I think Hatton's legacy should be Britian's most popular brawler ever. Ricky Hatton hasn't done enough to be considered any greater than that. We all know that he beat a washed up Tszyu. I still give him credit for that win because Tszyu was still the king at 140 at the time, but I think that Hatton has always given himself TOO much credit for that win. He's always used that fight as validation that he belongs amongst boxing's elite but I think that win was a little overrated. Ricky's competition @ 140 has been average since Tszyu, Maussa was garbage (Victor Ortiz proved that), Urango was given a horrible gift decision in the fight before Hatton that proved he was one-dimensional, JLC was completely washed up and just looking for a big check to pay off his many debts. Hatton is a good fighter but anyone saying he's an ATG is a F****** idiot.

Tszyu was p4p#2 fighter in the world

Castillo was top 10 p4p in most p4p threads i saw on here.

Just because a fighter is old in boxing terms, doesn't mean he is washed up

And your last point makes no sense whatsoever seen as tho he only got 40k for the fight.

Tszyu was still a P4P, but he was a shell of his former self. I don't think anyone is arguing that.

Anyone that had Castillo in a top 10 P4P right before the Hatton fight could be legally brain damaged. He had just went life and death with Herman Ngodojo. He looked absolutely horrible in that fight and I remember people on this forum saying Castillo was shot.

Once again, maybe I threw around the words "washed up" too much. All I'm saying is that a 35 year old fighter is not what he once was at 29. Even Floyd Mayweather can't turn back time.

YOUR last point makes no sense because Castillo's paycheck was taken by Bob Arum basically. He HAD to fight that fight in order to pay his debts to Arum for not making weight in Corrales - Castillo 3. Please do your research sir. If he wouldn't have fought the fight, then he would have been in the hole by millions. So I could probably say that he didn't train that hard for a fight he essentially made no money in.

[ono]

I think Hatton's legacy should be Britian's most popular brawler ever. Ricky Hatton hasn't done enough to be considered any greater than that. We all know that he beat a washed up Tszyu. I still give him credit for that win because Tszyu was still the king at 140 at the time, but I think that Hatton has always given himself TOO much credit for that win. He's always used that fight as validation that he belongs amongst boxing's elite but I think that win was a little overrated. Ricky's competition @ 140 has been average since Tszyu, Maussa was garbage (Victor Ortiz proved that), Urango was given a horrible gift decision in the fight before Hatton that proved he was one-dimensional, JLC was completely washed up and just looking for a big check to pay off his many debts. Hatton is a good fighter but anyone saying he's an ATG is a F****** idiot.

Tszyu was p4p#2 fighter in the world

Castillo was top 10 p4p in most p4p threads i saw on here.

Just because a fighter is old in boxing terms, doesn't mean he is washed up

And your last point makes no sense whatsoever seen as tho he only got 40k for the fight.

I think Hatton's legacy should be Britian's most popular brawler ever. Ricky Hatton hasn't done enough to be considered any greater than that. We all know that he beat a washed up Tszyu. I still give him credit for that win because Tszyu was still the king at 140 at the time, but I think that Hatton has always given himself TOO much credit for that win. He's always used that fight as validation that he belongs amongst boxing's elite but I think that win was a little overrated. Ricky's competition @ 140 has been average since Tszyu, Maussa was garbage (Victor Ortiz proved that), Urango was given a horrible gift decision in the fight before Hatton that proved he was one-dimensional, JLC was completely washed up and just looking for a big check to pay off his many debts. Hatton is a good fighter but anyone saying he's an ATG is a F****** idiot.

Tszyu was p4p#2 fighter in the world

Castillo was top 10 p4p in most p4p threads i saw on here.

Just because a fighter is old in boxing terms, doesn't mean he is washed up

And your last point makes no sense whatsoever seen as tho he only got 40k for the fight.

I think Hatton's legacy should be Britian's most popular brawler ever. Ricky Hatton hasn't done enough to be considered any greater than that. We all know that he beat a washed up Tszyu. I still give him credit for that win because Tszyu was still the king at 140 at the time, but I think that Hatton has always given himself TOO much credit for that win. He's always used that fight as validation that he belongs amongst boxing's elite but I think that win was a little overrated. Ricky's competition @ 140 has been average since Tszyu, Maussa was garbage (Victor Ortiz proved that), Urango was given a horrible gift decision in the fight before Hatton that proved he was one-dimensional, JLC was completely washed up and just looking for a big check to pay off his many debts. Hatton is a good fighter but anyone saying he's an ATG is a F****** idiot.

Tszyu was p4p#2 fighter in the world

Castillo was top 10 p4p in most p4p threads i saw on here.

Just because a fighter is old in boxing terms, doesn't mean he is washed up

And your last point makes no sense whatsoever seen as tho he only got 40k for the fight.

Tszyu was still a P4P, but he was a shell of his former self. I don't think anyone is arguing that.

Anyone that had Castillo in a top 10 P4P right before the Hatton fight could be legally brain damaged. He had just went life and death with Herman Ngodojo. He looked absolutely horrible in that fight and I remember people on this forum saying Castillo was shot.

Once again, maybe I threw around the words "washed up" too much. All I'm saying is that a 35 year old fighter is not what he once was at 29. Even Floyd Mayweather can't turn back time.

YOUR last point makes no sense because Castillo's paycheck was taken by Bob Arum basically. He HAD to fight that fight in order to pay his debts to Arum for not making weight in Corrales - Castillo 3. Please do your research sir. If he wouldn't have fought the fight, then he would have been in the hole by millions. So I could probably say that he didn't train that hard for a fight he essentially made no money in.

Yeh but the thing with p4p list is this.....Seen as tho Castillo was p4p top ten after ko'ing Chico, it's unfair to remove him from the list just because he was lacklusture against N'Goudjo. He still won so imo he deserves to keep his place. Hell if p4p was judged on performances, Jermain Taylor would never have got into top ten......but wins over Ouma, Spinks and B-Hop deserve recognition, wether he deserved them or not....He got the W.

I don't see how you can say tszyu was a shell of his former self seen as tho 7 months earlier he completely cained Sharmba Mitchell, easily surpassing his performance against him when he was supposedly in his prime. If he was a shell of his former self but rated at number 2, at what point was he p4p number 1? Man the gap between 1-3 must have been huge for Tszyu not to drop out of the top 2.

And yeh i know the Castillo but wether he's getting paid or not is irrelevant when you take a body shot like that. It didn't hurt any extra just because he was skint. If you offered him £10m to get up after that shot he still wudn't have been able to. Castillo is a very, very proud fighter and to say he didn't train that hard is basically clutching at straws. Think about it, if you need the money that much and your next fight is against Ricky Hatton, your guna get your arse into shape. You know how many doors would have opened for him if he'd have beaten hatton? No more money worries thats for sure!

[Violent Demise]

First off I get the idea your a little bias and not giving credit to Hatton more. I don't know if you know but Ricky Hatton is my favourite boxer to have ever stepped foot on the planet and feel your statements were harsh in some respects.

Second off "Ricky Hattons Legacy" will be remembered for Fighting the very best, showing heart and determination and will to succeed, A TRUE WARRIOR who had the heart of a winner.

Hate to break it to you but Juan Urango, Carlos Maussa, Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches, Dennis Pedersen and Joe Hutchinson were not the very best

[Kel]

First off I get the idea your a little bias and not giving credit to Hatton more. I don't know if you know but Ricky Hatton is my favourite boxer to have ever stepped foot on the planet and feel your statements were harsh in some respects.

Second off "Ricky Hattons Legacy" will be remembered for Fighting the very best, showing heart and determination and will to succeed, A TRUE WARRIOR who had the heart of a winner.

Hate to break it to you but Juan Urango, Carlos Maussa, Ray Oliveira, Michael Stewart, Carlos Vilches, Dennis Pedersen and Joe Hutchinson were not the very best

As much as I hate agreeing with you your right.

Maussa should not be in any list when your talking decent fighters.

[Kev]

He will go down as one of the best British fighters. In 20 years time he will be regarded with the same affection and respect afforded to guys like Nigel Benn and Chris Eubank which is no small achievement.

He's not our best fighter, Joe Calzaghe is, but he did attract a fanbase that surpassed any British fighter since Frank Bruno.

Whether he's Hall of Fame worthy, I'm not sure, whether he will get in however I have no doubts whatsoever.

We havn't had many British fighters in the Hall of Fame lately and so Ricky will doubtless be a shoe in once his career is over. People will argue whether he deserved it or not but I'd say it's a 100% certainty that he will be get in.

[Kel]

I think it depends on his next few bouts Bilbo. If he can get say 3 straight wins and retire he is in there. Boxing fans are pretty fickle in the UK though.

[Bukom Battler]

This may upset one or two people but lets put it this way, if McGuigan can get into the HoF Hatton should be a future haller based on his record thus far. At least he lost to the P4P Number 1 at the time and not a young chap who not many had heard of. It was Steve Who for me not Steve Cruz.

Give Mcguigan his credit though he did beat a good champion in Pedroza.

[Kel]

This may upset one or two people but lets put it this way, if McGuigan can get into the HoF Hatton should be a future haller based on his record thus far. At least he lost to the P4P Number 1 at the time and not a young chap who not many had heard of. It was Steve Who for me not Steve Cruz.

Give Mcguigan his credit though he did beat a good champion in Pedroza.

It don't upset me your right mate. You can't argue with the truth

[Kev]

I think it depends on his next few bouts Bilbo. If he can get say 3 straight wins and retire he is in there. Boxing fans are pretty fickle in the UK though.

He'll be alright. All of our best fighters ended their career with multiple losses, it's not remembered at all.

Benn lost to Malinga and twice lamely to Steve Collins in his last three bouts.
Eubank lost 3 in a row to Calzaghe and Thompson
Bruno got absolutely destroyed by Tyson in his last bout

He'll be well remembered regardless of what happens from now on.

[Kel]

I think it depends on his next few bouts Bilbo. If he can get say 3 straight wins and retire he is in there. Boxing fans are pretty fickle in the UK though.

He'll be alright. All of our best fighters ended their career with multiple losses, it's not remembered at all.

Benn lost to Malinga and twice lamely to Steve Collins in his last three bouts.
Eubank lost 3 in a row to Calzaghe and Thompson
Bruno got absolutely destroyed by Tyson in his last bout

He'll be well remembered regardless of what happens from now on.

You might be right. But with Ricky being so young at 29 (but with a fucking shit lifestyle) people might think diferently.

[QUISQUEYA]

From watching the fight there was absolutely no evidence that suggested Castillo was shot. He actually won the 3rd round on two of the cards and he was warming up just nicely. Ignore the HBO broadcast where Emmanuel Steward was talking absolute S***.....watch the fight with no commentary and then form your own opinion.
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Actually, castillo also looked crappy vs Reyes. Have you heard of Reyes before or since?

Additionally, Castillo did look shot from watching the fight. The guy was practically falling over himself. And, with all due respect, Castillo only won ONE round on ONE scorecard...contrary to your assertion.

Please tell the truth.

[Ghost]

Has Hatton died?


Sounds like everyone is trying to write his Bio for the eulogy.

He lost one fight.

Big deal.

[B@rr3r@]

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Has Hatton died?


Sounds like everyone is trying to write his Bio for the eulogy.

He lost one fight.

Big deal.

He hasnt....

But has anyone really truly enjoyed a fight after the Tsyzu fight?

The KO of Maussa and Castillo was good.

The only reason Collazo was any good, or suspensful, was that because Hatton was out on his feet, and Urango was terrible match, and Flloyd destroyed him, albeit the build up was good.

Hit Hold Hit Hold

And to the guy who said I am biased, if you read in my post, its says Ricky is my favourite boxer, so how is that biased againast him?

[p4pking]

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Has Hatton died?


Sounds like everyone is trying to write his Bio for the eulogy.

He lost one fight.

Big deal.

He hasnt....

But has anyone really truly enjoyed a fight after the Tsyzu fight?

The KO of Maussa and Castillo was good.

The only reason Collazo was any good, or suspensful, was that because Hatton was out on his feet, and Urango was terrible match, and Flloyd destroyed him, albeit the build up was good.

Hit Hold Hit Hold

And to the guy who said I am biased, if you read in my post, its says Ricky is my favourite boxer, so how is that biased againast him?

If he hasn't put on a performance that you enjoyed watching in 3 years, it's fairly odd that he would be your pick for favourite boxer.. You must not be very hard to please.