Jeff Lacey

[donnydarkoIRL]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

[ICB]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

[oakleyno1]

a heavy example of how your wrong is that you could say people saw sonny liston as a beast and skilled fighter while ali after being floored by henry cooper had been exposed? yet ali exposed liston and stopped him.

[ICB]

a heavy example of how your wrong is that you could say people saw sonny liston as a beast and skilled fighter while ali after being floored by henry cooper had been exposed? yet ali exposed liston and stopped him.

Totally different Ali before the fight with Cooper and after the fight with Cooper had shown he was a great fighter. Lacy before and after Calzaghe fight had never shown he was one of the top Super Middleweights.

[leftylee]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet when he faced Lacy years beforehand you say he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

[ICB]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

[leftylee]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

[ICB]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

Earl was also a shot fighter when he fought Khan and took a hammering in his last fight. Fact is Reid achieved a lot more in his career than Earl ever did, and anyway im not going over this again and having another 2 page debate in a Lacy thread.

[leftylee]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

Earl was also a shot fighter when he fought Khan and took a hammering in his last fight. Fact is Reid achieved a lot more in his career than Earl ever did, and anyway im not going over this again and having another 2 page debate in a Lacy thread.

Neither am I because I'm right

Just one question Ice.

How was Earl shot when he was the number 1 Lightweight in the country and mandatory challenger for EBU belt when he fought Khan ??.

Regards

[ICB]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

Earl was also a shot fighter when he fought Khan and took a hammering in his last fight. Fact is Reid achieved a lot more in his career than Earl ever did, and anyway im not going over this again and having another 2 page debate in a Lacy thread.

Neither am I because I'm right

Just one question Ice.

How was Earl shot when he was the number 1 Lightweight in the country and mandatory challenger for EBU belt when he fought Khan ??.

Regards

I already answered your question in the other thread and all your other questions, im not going over this again and turning this into Khan debate in a Lacy thread.

[donnydarkoIRL]

ICE:
Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Ice the fact remains, Jeff Lacy was expected by the vast majority of the boxing media and public to beat Joe Calzaghe.
Calzaghe upto that point was viewed as a paper champion, an unproven fighter and even a fraud. Lacy was seen to be the real deal. He had power, a large following and a very impressive record, supported by an illustrious amateur career.

Whether you acknowledge it or not Lacy was heavily favoured to beat Calzaghe as the majority still believed in Lacy. On a perasonal level perhaps you believed Lacy was exposed, but until the majority realised he was not all he was cracked up to be he could not have been classified as an exposed fighter.

[leftylee]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

Earl was also a shot fighter when he fought Khan and took a hammering in his last fight. Fact is Reid achieved a lot more in his career than Earl ever did, and anyway im not going over this again and having another 2 page debate in a Lacy thread.

Neither am I because I'm right

Just one question Ice.

How was Earl shot when he was the number 1 Lightweight in the country and mandatory challenger for EBU belt when he fought Khan ??.

Regards

I already answered your question in the other thread and all your other questions, im not going over this again and turning this into Khan debate in a Lacy thread.

Not this question

Anyways ICB I'm gald you know my opinion of things

[ICB]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

Earl was also a shot fighter when he fought Khan and took a hammering in his last fight. Fact is Reid achieved a lot more in his career than Earl ever did, and anyway im not going over this again and having another 2 page debate in a Lacy thread.

Neither am I because I'm right

Just one question Ice.

How was Earl shot when he was the number 1 Lightweight in the country and mandatory challenger for EBU belt when he fought Khan ??.

Regards

I already answered your question in the other thread and all your other questions, im not going over this again and turning this into Khan debate in a Lacy thread.

Not this question

Anyways ICB I'm gald you know my opinion of things

I know your game Lee your trying to lure me in but not this time

[leftylee]

ICE:
And 42 out of 43 sport writers thought Tyson would batter Holyfield in there 1st fight, and also these so called *Experts* believe ODLH vs Mayweather was razor thin close fight. I don't pay attention to these so called *Experts* i go with my opinion's and my own views.

All Credit to you, but the general public and indeed the general boxing public do not.
In fact I would go as far as to say that the opinions of the aforementioned experts would be a good indication of the general consensus of the boxing world.

Retrospect is a valuable tool to a critic. Looking back his limitations were displayed in the Sheika and Vanderpool fights, but who thought it at the time? Very few.
I know I was shouting for Joe and predicted a win for him, but I was incredibly nervy doing so.
The media heralded the fight as doomsday for Joe,the majority felt JOE was going to be exposed. So I stand by my opinion....How could an exposed fighter, be a heavy favourite against a world champion?

Because a lot of fans go with other peoples opinions instead of there own, before the fight happened i asked some of these people who were picking Lacy, if they had seen Sheika vs Lacy or Vanderpool vs Lacy ?? and guess what there answer was ?? no. Most of these people who were picking Lacy jumped on Lacy bandwagon after seeing him beat a shot Reid, what you must realize Donny is that most armchair fans don't watch a lot of a certain fighters career, they watch 1 or 2 fights. And also most of the Yanks who were picking Lacy had hardly seen any of Calzaghe's fights because they were not broadcast on USA television, only a few of his fights were but they were mostly on the under cards. And in most cases armchair fans don't really take any notice of under cards or they quickly forget it. I had seen at least 10+ fights of Lacy before his fight with Calzaghe, and i had also been following Calzaghe since about 2000. And i also had Calzaghe's career set and i could see that this fight was highly skilled veteran champion aka Calzaghe, against a 1 dimensional heavily flawed but strong young upcoming inexperienced champion aka Lacy. The skill level gap was huge and style wise Lacy was made for Calzaghe.

Remmber our dispute ICB, who has faced the better opponents Froch or Khan and you said even when Froch faced Reid he was still tough and durable yet years beforehand when he faced Lacy he was shot Your contradicting youself mate

I also said Reid was shot when he fought Froch, but i also said Froch beating Reid is better than any name on Khan's record fact

Tough and durable you mentioned and that is a fact, Graham Earl when he faced Khan was better than a 35 yr old pornstar when he fought Froch just trying to make a bit of money and after 1 fight in 2 or 3 years plus Earl was #1 Lightweight in the country FACT when Khan fought him but was Reid #1 Sup-Mid in the country when Froch fought him ?? I don't think so .

Earl was also a shot fighter when he fought Khan and took a hammering in his last fight. Fact is Reid achieved a lot more in his career than Earl ever did, and anyway im not going over this again and having another 2 page debate in a Lacy thread.

Neither am I because I'm right

Just one question Ice.

How was Earl shot when he was the number 1 Lightweight in the country and mandatory challenger for EBU belt when he fought Khan ??.

Regards

I already answered your question in the other thread and all your other questions, im not going over this again and turning this into Khan debate in a Lacy thread.

Not this question

Anyways ICB I'm gald you know my opinion of things

I know your game Lee your trying to lure me in but not this time

Haha, your always a good sport bro

[mayorook]

I agree with what the boxer totally! Everybody can throw dirt on Jeff Lacey name now,but he is the one to put some exciting back in that division. Not Calazaghe! He was there for years and no one knew who he was and the one that did know him paid him no mine! Do i think Lacey might be done, maybe but i hope i'm wrong. I will root for him till the day decides to fight no more. Also forth and foremost Calzaghe did destroy Lacey, big time, but Joe would not be where he is right now if it wasn't for him going to Whales and fighting him. Something Roy refused to do years ago on many occasions. Jeff was the only would that would step up and give that pu$$y from whales a chance to shine. You still are the man in my book "left hook"