Out of interest, if Pavlik fights wright in the next year...

[Fenster]

[Fenster]

Your really into old school westerns arent you?

Bet you never would of saw the day that I would Have Joe Calzaghe in my sig line calling him great did you?

yeah I love a western, especially a spaghetti...

The sig aint surprising.. I knew you guys would come round on Calzaghe once you got to know him.

As it goes, considering you were/are hardcore Lacy.. and Floyd .. not surprising you've chosen to start supporting WINNERS.

[DaxxKahn]

Tuco

from the Good, Bad and Ugly

Tuco is the man.....He had some of the best lines in not just spegetti wetsern history but movie history period....

The best is when he was in the tub and the guy came for revenge and was talking S*** so Tuco just shot him...Then says..."If your gonna talk talk...If your gonna shoot shoot".....

And at the end ....

BLONDIE!!!!...YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE?...AND NO GOOD SON OF A BITCH.......

and the music mutes out the last word...

You get a CC from me just for your avatar

[Wacko3205]

I voted for Wright...but it'd be a split decision, IWHO.

Wright's got too good of a defense & he's waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to skilled for Pavlik.

I love KP & all that...but Wright's a HOF'er & Pavlik is still unproven against marquee talent.

[Spicoli]

If Wright can Old school off the backfoot regardless of size as opposed to walk forward Immitation Slugger,He can exploit Pavliks second thought Defense.

[Puya]

At the moment Winky is an unknown quantity. He looked awful against Hopkins, but that may have been the added weight.
I'll have to see Wright fight again before I have a basis for judgement.

ANd I had him wiing that fight vs Bhop by 1 round

[zupg]

IMO, Pavlik would KO Winky in the mid rounds. Winky hasn't fought too many that have Pavlik's power and relentlessness to always come forward.

[El Gamo]

Pavlik via stoppage. Too big,way way too strong and relentless. And as the JT fight showed, you need more than ajab too keep him off. Anyone who stands directly in front of Kelly Pavlik at 160 is getting knocked out. Winky is no exception.

His rangy jab and right hand are going to bust Winky's arms. He has awesome body shots and he can get the uppercut through Wright's guard. I just don't see how Wright is going to be able to stand there for 12 rounds and block allllll of Kelly's bombs.No way. Taylor stunned Winky a few times and was backing him up even when Winky was blocking,Pavlik hits harder than JT and there are more coming.

No doubt in my mind whatsoever,Kelly beats the heck out of Wright and wins via stoppage or wide UD.

Kelly is a buzzsaw that will not take a backward step like Taylor did... Pavlik will push Winky backward allnite firing 1 2's down the middle.. I like Winky and think his defense is tops but Pavlik is an undeterred animal who will relentlessly come after him

Winky is 5'10 1/2 with a 72 in reach/ Pavlik 6'2 75 in reach... Pavlik hits to hard not to crack through Winky's guard, Wink gives way to much up physically to win at this juncture

Finally we agree, Cool Click. Good points.

At this stage Pavlik would win.. easily.

Wright would have his usual brigade crying robbery though. Fact.

Wy way way too true. Winky fans cry robbery after every,EVERY loss of his. Fact. And they are all CLOSE fights,not robberies,FACT. Right on old son,CC on me.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Can I ask the thread, Do you guys feel that Winky is best served to make an attempt to return to 154?
With DLH abandoning ship to fight at 150, Karmazin having just been soundly beaten and CORY SPINKS seen as the leading man Do you guys think, that if Winky can make the weight comfortably he could, potentially, clear the division?

[El Gamo]

Winky could easily clean up 154,but he can't make weight.And there are not alot of big fights there. Spinks,Forrest would be decent,Alcine,Simms,Santos,he doesn't want to and is not going to fight guys like that so I don't think,even if he could make the weight,that he would come back.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Winky could easily clean up 154,but he can't make weight.And there are not alot of big fights there. Spinks,Forrest would be decent,Alcine,Simms,Santos,he doesn't want to and is not going to fight guys like that so I don't think,even if he could make the weight,that he would come back.

I understand Gamo.
I often wonder how a guy of so small a frame and who never appears remarkably lean coming into fights cant make 154 160.

The reason I enquired is I wonder too with Judah tesing the waters, will we see an influx of 147 fighters into the jr Midles? Paul Willams will end up there for sure, Margarito would be quite succesful too....Do they represent potential future fights?

[El Gamo]

Winky could easily clean up 154,but he can't make weight.And there are not alot of big fights there. Spinks,Forrest would be decent,Alcine,Simms,Santos,he doesn't want to and is not going to fight guys like that so I don't think,even if he could make the weight,that he would come back.

I understand Gamo.
I often wonder how a guy of so small a frame and who never appears remarkably lean coming into fights cant make 154 160.

The reason I enquired is I wonder too with Judah tesing the waters, will we see an influx of 147 fighters into the jr Midles? Paul Willams will end up there for sure, Margarito would be quite succesful too....Do cthey represent potential future fights?

Well WInky is old now,and like I've said before,he made the foolish move of going to 170 to fight B Hop. He probably finds t hard to shift the weight as easily as he could before and I know Wright does weights. Well,some of the 14 pounders will move to 154 eventually but certainly no any time soon. Why should they:147 is blossoming and there are plenty of big fights there. Williams will one day outgrow the division as will Tony. Cintron is a big 147 pounder,Zab I don't think will stay at 54 permanently and I think one day,in 2-3 years,Cotto will be at 154 too. It's a long way away yet though.Just my opinion of ourse.

[donnydarkoIRL]

No I'm totally in agreement I see the aforementioned fighters competing in the profitable depths of 147 for a while yet.

As for Winky, well I've always known he was a natural fighter and fought where he felt comfortable, but I feel 154 is not out of the question for him even in this advanced stage of his career, proper training and nutrition should allow him to make it.

[southakron314]

Pavlik ends it under 7 rounds. Wright retires.

[boozeboxer]

Wright by wide UD. Already have a sig bet on the nod.