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    Default Re: Fighters Who Should Call it a Day

    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    The guys you've listed that should retire could still beat about half the guys in the divisions they are in respectively. So it kind of depends on what level opponent they are fighting. I agree if you mean fighting for top status, but B-Hop, Tito, and Morales just came of decent performances against champions, they could still fight on and I wouldn't question them for a little while. Holyfield is a shell of his former self and needs to call it a day. Unfortunately I think he probably will continue on....Toney is pretty much done I just cant see him getting in proper shape anymore. Castillejo was in a good competitive fight but really took a big shot, he definately needs a long time off after that and at his age a layoff means it's probably over.


    but what about in terms of mantaining their legacys??

    Tito will never ever be the enigma that he once was, erik morales time has come and gone. His legacy is there for all to see, does anyone really wanna see a generation of stars who took up the sport because of him beat the guy and tarnish an amazing career.

    Castillejo is a tough one - never quite gained the recognition he deserved and a mutual observer would probably claim that he should perhaps consider 2-3 more years. But after the way he suffered in that last fight - if people around the guy have any respect for him they`ll tell him to call it a day and not spend an eternity of retirement considering what could of been.

    I have the same logic with regards to bhop - sure the guy is 43 years old and yet still can come out of a fight looking like he has just got out of bed. But it dont matter how hard you train or how well mentally prepared you feel, no man of 43 can sustain the same physical agility he had 10 years ago.

    Lennox Lewis had it spot on. He knew when it was time to get out of there and for that reason he`ll always go down as one of the all time greats!!
    I think Tito can still fight but he keeps meeting bigger guys who outbox him like JHones Winky and Hopkins. If they pick the right fights Tito can still be sucessful .

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Should Call it a Day

    Like Johnny said, Chris Byrd definitely.

    I can think of some younger guys who are shot all ready and shouldn't be fighting, Courtney Burton and Willie Gibbs come to mind.

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Should Call it a Day

    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hattonthehammer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by No Contest View Post
    The guys you've listed that should retire could still beat about half the guys in the divisions they are in respectively. So it kind of depends on what level opponent they are fighting. I agree if you mean fighting for top status, but B-Hop, Tito, and Morales just came of decent performances against champions, they could still fight on and I wouldn't question them for a little while. Holyfield is a shell of his former self and needs to call it a day. Unfortunately I think he probably will continue on....Toney is pretty much done I just cant see him getting in proper shape anymore. Castillejo was in a good competitive fight but really took a big shot, he definately needs a long time off after that and at his age a layoff means it's probably over.


    but what about in terms of mantaining their legacys??

    Tito will never ever be the enigma that he once was, erik morales time has come and gone. His legacy is there for all to see, does anyone really wanna see a generation of stars who took up the sport because of him beat the guy and tarnish an amazing career.

    Castillejo is a tough one - never quite gained the recognition he deserved and a mutual observer would probably claim that he should perhaps consider 2-3 more years. But after the way he suffered in that last fight - if people around the guy have any respect for him they`ll tell him to call it a day and not spend an eternity of retirement considering what could of been.

    I have the same logic with regards to bhop - sure the guy is 43 years old and yet still can come out of a fight looking like he has just got out of bed. But it dont matter how hard you train or how well mentally prepared you feel, no man of 43 can sustain the same physical agility he had 10 years ago.

    Lennox Lewis had it spot on. He knew when it was time to get out of there and for that reason he`ll always go down as one of the all time greats!!
    I think Tito can still fight but he keeps meeting bigger guys who outbox him like JHones Winky and Hopkins. If they pick the right fights Tito can still be sucessful .

    I saw nothing from his last outing to suggest he has anymore left in the tank to continue boxing and quite honestly wondered at times apart from his natural ability what was actually getting him through.

    Mind you RJJ hardly blew me away!!

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Should Call it a Day

    Quote Originally Posted by jmbtandy View Post
    List of fighters who are still determined to box but really should hang up the gloves and call it a day

    Bernard Hopkins
    Felix Trinidad
    Evander Holyfield
    Eric Morales
    James Toney
    Javier Castillejo

    Older Guys Who Still Have it

    Glen Johnson
    Joel Casamayor
    Nate Campbell
    Roy Jones Jr
    Marcus Beyer
    Winky Wright
    Vernon Forrest
    Oscar De La Hoya
    Shane Mosley
    Verno Phillips
    Juan Manuel Marquez
    Gerry Penalosa
    I would have Calzaghe on the old guys that still have it and Barrera (MAB)on the retired list.

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Should Call it a Day

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    After last fridays debacle does Chris Byrd also belong to the retired list...
    I have to agree with that one. Also, I was on some website and saw Wayne McCullough (sorry, I know I didn't spell it right) talking about being excited about some upcoming fight he was going to be in. Shouldn't he retire? I thought he had suffered some kind of brain problem several years ago.

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    Default Re: Fighters Who Should Call it a Day

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    After last fridays debacle does Chris Byrd also belong to the retired list...
    Absolutely

    I would also add Antwun Echols, give someone else the ESPN replacement gig. ODLH should retire too IMO. He still has some skill but every time from here on out that he fights a name fighter he will be taking away someone that deserves a shot. Oleg Maskaev also to add to the list.
    Yori Boy is done, 103 fights is enough for anyone. Jose Luis Castillo can't make weight where he's effective, can't be effective where he can make weight.

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