Is Hatton-Malignaggi fight already signed?

[yvonne]

According to "Boxing Monthly",Hatton's fight with Paulie was already signed before his homecomig fight with Lazcano

[donnydarkoIRL]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

[ICB]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

Thats mystery to me as well Fenster what has Paulie done lately to make this more interesting fight than Pac vs Hatton ?? to be honest i think Paulie has looked crap in his last few fights and he hasn't impressed me since the Cotto fight. Pacquiao walks around at over 140+ pounds easily i believe so weight wouldn't be an issue. And plus it would be a much more exciting fight than Paulie running all night against Hatton.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Boxing fans want the divisions to be unified, they want one champion, yet rather than have the division clarified they want an exciting fight with a newcomer to the division....
Doesn't seem fair to me.

[ICB]

I think that to say Hatton Pac is of a far greater magnitude shows a lack of interest in pure boxing imo.

Hatton vs. Pacquaio is a marquee fight. It's only purose is to generate huge sums of moiney and public interest.

As regards boxing significance Hatton vs. Pauoilie is afr more significant.

Why?

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 Jr Welterweight in the 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie and Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, then they can face eachother.

[Fenster]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

[donnydarkoIRL]

Why?

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 in 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie then Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, they can face eachother.

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

[Fenster]

Is Hatton-Malignaggi fight already signed?

I'm asking this since Team Hatton seems not entertaining the Pacquiao challenge and they prefer to fight Paulie instead of Pacquiao in November. I'm confused since the Paulie fight is nowhere near in magnitude compared to the Pacquiao fight.

Paulie also said that he will not "step aside". Why? Is this a mandatory fight? For all I know, Paulie is the champion of IBF while Hatton is the IBO champion. They're both champs. Now who's the mandatory of whom?

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Hatton-Paulie is not signed.

Also please don't refer to Hatton as champ because of the IBO belt it kills me to read that.
Hattons the champ because he has the Ring Belt and is the lineal champ not because of that green piece of shit belt.

The thing here is that Hatton is that he's trying to be a man of his word and a Hatton-Paulie fight has been in the talks for some time now. So I think Hatton wants to honor that. Last I checked there was no #1 challenger to Paulies title. I think Hattons rated #5 in the IBF.
Certainly Hattons not defending his stupid IBO belt.
I think it has more to do with #1 vs. #2 in the general rankings.

If Hatton-Paulie not yet signed then why all this news of Paulie not stepping aside or Paulie needing a step aside money?

Who is really not wanting a Hatton-PAC fight? The fans want it, promoters want it (not sure with GBP tho), HBO (or Showtime) want it. Everybody want it and who's this entity trying to prevent a Hatton-PAC fight?

Bob Arum - "all these reports (about a Hatton fight this year) are just ludicrous."

PLus.. if the fight happened in a stadium (100,000 punters) it needs to be summer time (although I don't think this will be the case).

[ICB]

The recognised No.1 Light welter fighting another highly rated Light Welter.
Bringing clarity to the division before hopping weights etc.
As opposed to the No.1 light welter defending to a man that has fought 2 divisions below him that same year.

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 in 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie then Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, they can face eachother.

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

[ICB]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2006. And lets be honest at the moment Paulie is seen as a bit of joke by boxing fans after his last embarrassing performance.

[Fenster]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

That don't mean shit! Pac is a STAR in boxing. Hatton-Pac will be MEGA! In time Pac will be listed as Hatton's best win alongside Tszyu.

Powderpuff is NO different to Maussa or Urango. If Hatton beats Powderpuff it's seen as him beating a useless twat coming off two (arguable) losses that never beat anyone of any distinction. Fact.

[Fenster]

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2006. And lets be honest at the moment Paulie is seen as a bit of joke by boxing fans after his last embarrassing performance.

Well said Ice.



(Posted just before me)

[donnydarkoIRL]

I disagree Hatton already proved along time ago he was the number 1 in 140 pound division, why does he need to prove it again in an even weaker version of the Jr Welterweight division ?? Pacquiao vs Hatton would make much more money, its what the fans want. Pacquiao has been getting stronger since moving up and he walks around at 140+. And it would be 10x times more exciting it for certain makes sense to me Donny, but i guess it wouldn't be too bad if Hatton fought Paulie then Pacquiao fought Valero then if both fighters win, they can face eachother.

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

Paulie is decent belt holder in a CRAP division.

Pac-Hatton is a great fight. What will be considered Hatton's best win (should he win) in years to come?

Pac or Powderpuff?

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2005.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

[ICB]

When reflecting on Hatton's legacy would it look better to look back, seeing him compete and dominate all the 140lbs champs or seing him beat a guy that has fought at Super featherweight this year?

Sure Pacquiao walks around at 140, but Ricky walks around at a minimum of 170!
Pacquiao is an exceptional fighter, but tthe end of the day the situation would present Ricky taking the challenge of the smaller man for money.

140 may be shallow at the moment, but there are better fights for Hatton's legacy;
Torres/Holt/Peterson/Malignaggi.

The only fight that interest's me at 140 is Torres vs Hatton i still say Torres TKO's Hatton i think Hatton's punch resistance has gone somewhat. And i think Devon Alexander in time will be the best Jr Welterweight in the world.

Hatton's new vulnerability to punches certainly makes this fight more ridky for him, but I believe he could pull it out of the bag, by drawing Torres past the 6th. Torres has always had stamina problems and is reduced to a Urango like fighter after his initial onslaught.

But it would be very exciting. I'd also say that Bradley has brought something new to the division. Win or lose he will force fights and create excitment.

If Hatton beats Pacquiao it's seen as Hatton beating a blown up Super featherweight.

You know it.

Yes but there's also flip side to that coin Donny looking back at Paulie vs Hatton would Hatton get that much credit for beating Paulie really ?? he got two gift decisions in his last two fights, one against Ndou who he dominated in the first fight, and it was one of the most pointless rematches at that time yet he still struggled against an old Ndou. Paulie shouldn't even have a belt IMO and he hasn't been impressive since the Cotto fight way back in 2005.

I'd give him great credit if he could stop Paulie. I would see that as a great feat and a bright feather in the cap of any fighter given the struggle posed by Malignaggi against Cotto.

Just a question for you here Donny you said you see Hatton vs Paulie as the more significant fight, but do you think majority of boxing fans will see it that way ?? because i very much doubt it. I can guarantee you if Hatton beat P4P number 1 boxing star Manny Pacquiao he would get tons more credit than he would against the joker Paulie as he is known as now. And i would certainly praise Hatton if he beat Pacquiao, certainly much more than if he beat the feather fisted joker Paulie just my two cents here Donny.