Hatton Splits from Graham

[amat]

12 stone, a stone is 14 lbs right? So he had to lose more then half his bodyweight? Really? I knew his habits were bad and he got big between fights but damn.

[donnydarkoIRL]

Its never too late

[AdamGB]

For the same reason as I've stated the last 3 years.

A change in trainer could help;
1) His Longevity
2) His repuatation
and
3) His Record

I never really disagree with you but I don't think a change in trainer would add anything to his career, it's too late for that. The damage is done with the crazy training and weight issues, too late for change.

Whats taking its toll on Ricky, more than exploding in weight, more than weight, is the training.

The wear and tear Ricky is amassing in the gym is ridiculous, because of Grahams old school beliefs.

Ricky's knees will be shot in a few years as his elbows already are.

A change in trainer would at least reduce the physical depreciation of the fighter.

I agree, I also think that Hatton's boxing ability has been neglected... skill wise I think he reached the limit of what Billy Graham can teach and I don't think he's grown since then.

Too late for him now though.

[donnydarkoIRL]

I never really disagree with you but I don't think a change in trainer would add anything to his career, it's too late for that. The damage is done with the crazy training and weight issues, too late for change.

Whats taking its toll on Ricky, more than exploding in weight, more than weight, is the training.

The wear and tear Ricky is amassing in the gym is ridiculous, because of Grahams old school beliefs.

Ricky's knees will be shot in a few years as his elbows already are.

A change in trainer would at least reduce the physical depreciation of the fighter.

I agree, I also think that Hatton's boxing ability has been neglected... skill wise I think he reached the limit of what Billy Graham can teach and I don't think he's grown since then.

Too late for him now though.

Excat same thoughts.

[Bomp]

12 stone, a stone is 14 lbs right? So he had to lose more then half his bodyweight? Really? I knew his habits were bad and he got big between fights but damn.

It was a total he lossed for SEPARATE fights i.e. 3 st one fight ....

[Preme]

Graham is a crap trainer, but hatton may as well stay with him now as he is almost done - no point leaving for one or 2 fights.

[Fenster]

One loss in 45 fights (and it wouldn't have mattered who trained him for the loss). Graham ain't done that bad.

I think Hatton's "problem" is success and age. It's not just a physical deterioration but mental too. There's no way you can have/show the same desire after you've reached the heights he has.

He can make MILLIONS fighting no-bodies. That is surely every fighters dream

[littlebif]

If Ricky kept himself fit through out the year and not ballooning up to 14 stone he wouldnt have to kill himself in the gym just to get in shape .

To late in the day for him to change trainers now he's only having 2 more fights then he is retiring.

[yvonne]

No Not That One!!!


Matthew Hatton has confirmed that he will now be training at Bobby Rimmers gym in Stalybridge from now on. Matthew will be trained by primarily by Lee Beard and Bobby will oversee the younger Hatton's progress.

Matthew wanted to stress that in no way does this effect his working relationship with Kerry Kayes, Matthew is grateful for all the advice and help that Kerry has given him over the years and will continue to work with Kerry for the forseeable future to assist his conditioning and physical preparation.

After his defeat to Craig Watson on his older sibling's 'Homecoming' event earlier in May, Matthew felt that it was time for a change thus why the decision has been made.

He advised his fans that he is really excited about going to a new gym which has a lot of active fighters.Mathew Hatton has worked with Bobby at the Phoenix gym on previous occasions and is looking forward to training under Bobby again.

It will be interesting to see if this affects Big Hatton

I cant really understand what greater advantages it'll do by changing gym at this moment in time in his career unless it is to concentrate better without the publicity of his older brother"Ricky".It could be a good thing if thats the case!!!!We'll see sooner or later.He has always seemed to be overshadow in the present of the Hitman when they both training in the same gym so being apart might work wonders.

[chip]

Just found this!!!!!

Hatton hints at trainer split - Boxing - Sport - Manchester Evening News

Hatton hints at trainer split

Exclusive by Stuart Brennan
14/ 7/2008

RICKY Hatton has cast fresh doubts on his future with trainer Billy Graham.

The Hyde Hitman says he has yet to make a decision on whether to stick with his long-time mentor for his November 22 fight with Paulie Malignaggi in Las Vegas. Brother Matthew has already left Graham's Denton gym, which means Ricky is now the only fighter left in the Preacher's stable.

And Ricky says he has yet to decide with whom he will work once he returns to training in late August for the showdown with New Yorker Malignaggi.

"I will sit down with Matthew and my dad and have a good chat about it," said Hatton, who was relaxing at the MEN Family Race Day at Haydock on Sunday.

"I will take my time and make a decision, and should be in a position to say something on it in a week or so.

"I have been on my stand-up tour and after-dinner speaking all over the place for the last few weeks, but obviously I heard about Matthew's decision."

Hatton intends to cut out the extra-curricular activities and knuckle down to some serious gym work ahead of the Malignaggi clash.

But Matthew's decision to leave Graham and establish himself in the Stalybridge gym of Bobby Rimmer, where he will be trained by former Graham assistant Lee Beard, has cast doubt on Ricky's relationship with Graham.

Row

Rimmer used to help Graham train his boxers until the pair had a bitter row, Rimmer leaving and setting up his own gym in 2006.

Matthew's decision to leave means that Ricky would be training on his own in the gym, not a situation any boxer relishes, never mind a sociable character like the Hitman.

Matthew touched on that point in explaining his own decision to quit Graham's gym, following his defeat by Failsworth's Craig Watson for the Commonwealth welterweight title in May.

"Me and Ricky were training at separate times anyway, because I have been training with Lee , and there is only one ring in the gym," said the younger of the two brothers, who is expected to return to the ring in September.

Doubts over Hatton's relationship with Graham, who has trained him since he turned pro at 18 - 11 years ago - first surfaced after the defeat by Floyd Mayweather in December.

There had been friction between Graham and Hatton's agent Paul Speak in the build-up to the fight.

Hatton and his camp played down talk of a split, and Graham guided Hatton to victory in his homecoming fight against Juan Lazcano in May.

STEPHEN Foster junior's hopes of building on his defeat by WBO champion Alex Arthur has hit a setback because his next fight - on Saturday - has been shelved.

A hitch in TV scheduling has pulled the plug on the Birmingham show, headlined by the heavyweight clash between Audley Harrison and Martin Rogan and which also included Manchester's Denton Vassell.

[Saddo]

Matt will always be in the shadow of Ricky but to be honest he has prob had more exposure and breaks because of being his brother.

double edged sword me thinks

as for Ricky Hatton stick with Graham and stop making excuses for apart from Mayweather what has been a $$succesfull$$ career.

[Bomp]

Just found this!!!!!

Hatton hints at trainer split - Boxing - Sport - Manchester Evening News

Hatton hints at trainer split

Exclusive by Stuart Brennan
14/ 7/2008

RICKY Hatton has cast fresh doubts on his future with trainer Billy Graham.

The Hyde Hitman says he has yet to make a decision on whether to stick with his long-time mentor for his November 22 fight with Paulie Malignaggi in Las Vegas. Brother Matthew has already left Graham's Denton gym, which means Ricky is now the only fighter left in the Preacher's stable.

And Ricky says he has yet to decide with whom he will work once he returns to training in late August for the showdown with New Yorker Malignaggi.

"I will sit down with Matthew and my dad and have a good chat about it," said Hatton, who was relaxing at the MEN Family Race Day at Haydock on Sunday.

"I will take my time and make a decision, and should be in a position to say something on it in a week or so.

"I have been on my stand-up tour and after-dinner speaking all over the place for the last few weeks, but obviously I heard about Matthew's decision."

Hatton intends to cut out the extra-curricular activities and knuckle down to some serious gym work ahead of the Malignaggi clash.

But Matthew's decision to leave Graham and establish himself in the Stalybridge gym of Bobby Rimmer, where he will be trained by former Graham assistant Lee Beard, has cast doubt on Ricky's relationship with Graham.

Row

Rimmer used to help Graham train his boxers until the pair had a bitter row, Rimmer leaving and setting up his own gym in 2006.

Matthew's decision to leave means that Ricky would be training on his own in the gym, not a situation any boxer relishes, never mind a sociable character like the Hitman.

Matthew touched on that point in explaining his own decision to quit Graham's gym, following his defeat by Failsworth's Craig Watson for the Commonwealth welterweight title in May.

"Me and Ricky were training at separate times anyway, because I have been training with Lee , and there is only one ring in the gym," said the younger of the two brothers, who is expected to return to the ring in September.

Doubts over Hatton's relationship with Graham, who has trained him since he turned pro at 18 - 11 years ago - first surfaced after the defeat by Floyd Mayweather in December.

There had been friction between Graham and Hatton's agent Paul Speak in the build-up to the fight.

Hatton and his camp played down talk of a split, and Graham guided Hatton to victory in his homecoming fight against Juan Lazcano in May.

STEPHEN Foster junior's hopes of building on his defeat by WBO champion Alex Arthur has hit a setback because his next fight - on Saturday - has been shelved.

A hitch in TV scheduling has pulled the plug on the Birmingham show, headlined by the heavyweight clash between Audley Harrison and Martin Rogan and which also included Manchester's Denton Vassell.

Good read. Fucking agents, they're a cancer on society.

Too late for Hatton to change trainers IMO. In fairness to Graham, I think Hatton's style is a huge part of his succes, the come forward aggressive style compliments his short arms and bullish strength. His style changed for whatever reason, and the head movement on the way in has been none existent recently (though he did show it in the first rounds against Urango).
Since Graham was there for the good times, i don't think he can be solely blamed for the bad times. From the snippets of training we see in the build up, IMO Hatton seems to be the one calling the shots in training nowdays, then again it could be just for the cameras.

[HattonTheHammer]

ricky has stated on endless occasions that he`d never leave graham out in the cold and as long as he was fighting billy would be training him.

One thing the whole tyson/rooney saga should of taught us is that change isnt always for the best.

I suspect graham has more influence on hattons career than we actually truly know. And with ricky preffering to let his boxing do the talking for now i suspect he is quite happy with the arrangement thats in place!!

[Kel]

Whats taking its toll on Ricky, more than exploding in weight, more than weight, is the training.

The wear and tear Ricky is amassing in the gym is ridiculous, because of Grahams old school beliefs.

Ricky's knees will be shot in a few years as his elbows already are.

A change in trainer would at least reduce the physical depreciation of the fighter.

I agree, I also think that Hatton's boxing ability has been neglected... skill wise I think he reached the limit of what Billy Graham can teach and I don't think he's grown since then.

Too late for him now though.

Excat same thoughts.

You just said it's never too late

[Markusdarkus]

Billy Graham AKA the chameleon!! great in the gym a farce in the corner.

Gets Ricky in good shape but his corner work and tactics are dire, i like Graham as a trainer and a man but Hatton needs to bring a coach on board or find another trainer altogether to find his pre Tszyu form if indeed it is still there.

This Graham fella had Hatton fighting the Tszyu aka za bullrush (which was perfect for Tszyu not anyone else) all the way until after Urango. He is the guy that let Ricky fight 5 fights after Tszyu and not box or throw a jab just hit and smother now it is taking Hatton time and punishment to find his old form.

Graham as well as being tactically inept is also scarred to tell his fighter he is fighting like a punk. A corner quote from Collazo: "Ricky can we please, pretty please have head movement" he done that round after round. He should have slapped him and said your fighting like a chump sort ya fooking head out.